10:05 a.m.
Looks like we're off to a great start - thanks for bringing this a step
closer to being a real thing!
It does suck that we won't have The Mel on our side, and I agree we need to
find some more language experts. Armed with dates for the event, I can try
my hand again at poaching some developers. And remember, serious JavaScript
programmers may be just as useful as Java programmers, since a decent chunk
of the app is server-side JS. We'll want a mixture of programmers and
packaging/deployment people. And polyglots in general--people who can parse
unfamiliar languages, since I doubt we're going to meet our quota on people
that know Scala.
I wouldn't worry so much about lunch at Masala Art. Either we announce it as
pay-your-own-way, and make exceptions for the people who've flown or train'd
in for the event; or we can look for someplace cheaper to go; or we can
order in from someplace cheaper, using the magic of foodler.com. You can
feel free to lean on the expertise of alumni in this regard - we are a font
of knowledge for things to do in metro-west.
-DJ (Olin '07)
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1. Etherpad FAD Update -- 90% (Colin Zwiebel)
2. Etherpad FAD Update -- Need your input (Colin Zwiebel)
3. Re: Etherpad FAD Update -- 90% (Jon Stanley)
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:04:48 -0600
From: Colin Zwiebel <colin(a)zonion.org>
Subject: Etherpad FAD Update -- 90%
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Okay folks,
So, I'm no longer in rural Canada cutting down trees, so I can do some FAD
planning. And we need it.
Schzamm. I basically just went through and got 90% of the planning done.
Cool, eh? Here is an update of (most) everything.
1. You won't recognize this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD
2. This is new: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Etherpad_FAD
3. This email (read it)
== Meeting our Audience ==
This FAD has gotten pretty technical. This is fine, but I would still like
to accomidate new-comers. My solution, a couple "Educational Breaks," which
I
plan to advertise heavily to Oliners. Each is about 1 hour long. I'll round
up "new-comers," drag hackers off their computers, and lead a guided Q&A
session with one or more of the "hackers." (See the schedule on the
wiki<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad_FAD#Schedule>
).
For the first, I plan to grab Sebastian or another Fedora dev (assuming we
have one) and talk about OSS development, the kernel, why all these
companies (Red Hat, IBM, Novell, etc) would want to build something they
give away. Tell people how to get involved. Let the "new-comers" guide.
For the second I plan to grab DJ or someone to talk about the technologies
behind EP. Maybe go over architecture. Ohh, how about a "best practices and
where EtherPad fails" discussion. Again, keeping it at a level where
average
CS student can understand.
My hope is some "new-comers" will stay after each of these talks. You know,
learning via osmosis.
== Euro TeleHackathon ==
Just got an very exciting message from Joe Cornelli:
Joe Corneli Aug 17 11:19PM +0100 ^ <#12a8540faed40794_digest_top>
Just to confirm, this matches my holiday schedule
(actually Oct. 2nd THROUGH the 10th). Now I hope we
can get redhog online down to the UK for a visit. ::)))
I'm not sure what the EST-5 hour time difference will
do to the crack-of-dawnathon part of the programme;
anyone in East Asia on the list?
I'm going to have him set the schedule for the pre-FAD so we can do it
along-side the Euro folks.
Joe has some really grand visions for web notetaking with Etherpad
next-generation:
http://hyperreal-enterprises.posterous.com/?sort=&search=gravpad
== Event Facilities ==
Requested a room and got an email from Stephanie. Meeting status changed to
"scheduled." Yay! Pasted at the end of this message.
[] Status: Done.
== Arrange Refreshments ==
Andy: you mind driving and picking up soda cups a few days before the
event.
I'll request ice from Dining Service the week of the FAD. I can also borrow
my suites electric thermo-pot for tea.
[] Status: Set.
== Social Event ==
Again, I think we're good, just need Mel to advise on feasibility. I was
planning on taking the crowd to Masala Art in Needham for lunch buffet.
We'll just grab a few attendees, give people the option to bike, and be
done
with it.
I actually come up blank when trying to come up with other options. We
could
enjoy Olin's surroundings (woods, Wellesley trail system, Needham).
''Maybe'' head into Boston (it would take us a good deal of time because
of
Olin's location).
[] Status: Set, minus input.
== List Resources ==
This event doesn't need many resources, luckily. We aren't using any
hardware toys. Attendees bring their computers and thats pretty much the
end
of the story. Few things:
* Tables and Chairs: CC209 has them
* Projector: CC209 has one
* Digital Cameras: Attendees will bring
* Video Camera: Colin will borrow one from IT
* Fedora Infrastructure for EtherPad installation
== Remaining to be Done ==
* Start conversation with Fedora Infastructure about EP setup
* How do we get EtherPad up and running for Fedora?
* Invite "heavy hitters"
* Send to some Fedora lists
* Get the budget approved
Colin
== Appendix ==
=== Event Facilities ===
*Notes:
* Can we get some really nice, open air rooms? Maybe.
* MH might be available
* Still, are the faculty rooms really that much better than CC?
* Maybe too much time for one room.
* How about up in the 4th floor of the AC?
* Too far away for average Olin student
* Just reserve the CC and if you want a different room, figure out
later
* Reserved CC209
*Room reservation:
*Event Meeting Changed*
*Customer * Olin College Students *Reservation * 20100817-010 Olin
Way Event Type :Student Group-Conference/Event Needham, MA 02492-1200
>From :10/8/2010
5:00 PM
To :10/10/20109:00 AM Event Status : ScheduledAccount Number :
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:06:13 -0600
From: Colin Zwiebel <colin(a)zonion.org>
Subject: Etherpad FAD Update -- Need your input
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The action Email:
I need your help!
== People ==
No Mel ( =[ ) will miss here.
We need some "heavy hitters" in Java build systems, packaging... most
anything listed
How do I/we get these people?
(A: I'm going to email alumni, but thats no the only solution)
Pick off people individually?
Certain mailing lists I should go for?
I'm partially concerned because of:
== Cost Concerns ==
For the FAD, I'm planning on an outing to Masala Art. I've budgeted it in,
but at $14/person its a bit hefty. For attendees who have real
Java/Scala/build system/packaging chops, getting them a delicous brunch at
Masala Art is the least we can do for them. Buuut, for the random Oliner
who
stops by and listens to a talk, I don't think paying for Masala Art Brunch
is a good use of Fedora/Red Hat funds.
Thoughts?
So, I would like to get knowledgeable "heavy hitters" as "registered
attendees." I'm actually a little concerned sending out registration
invites
to Oliners ATM because I don't want people to come just for the $14 brunch.
Actually I'm concerned for the same reason with Fedora mailing lists. Buuut
I don't expect area locals to bother driving to Needham just for $14
brunch,
so probably less of a concern.
Again, thoughts?
Is this honest?
Should I remove brunch from the wiki?
Should I mark brunch as a "for serious devs only"? (this certainly seems
unfair).
Colin
P.S.
Eff, just found out that all my previous messages to logistics bounced
(no-member) and they've been filtering away.
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:22:31 -0400
From: Jon Stanley <jonstanley(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Etherpad FAD Update -- 90%
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2010/8/18 Colin Zwiebel <colin(a)zonion.org>
>
> Okay folks,
> So, I'm no longer in rural Canada cutting down trees, so I can do some
FAD planning. And we need it.
>
> Schzamm. I basically just went through and got 90% of the planning done.
Cool, eh? Here is an update of (most) everything.
Completely awesome. From the Infrastructure side, this is the first
time that I've heard about this (which isn't necessarily a bad thing -
I may have missed it in the flow, that's entirely possible). Anyhow,
I'm three things that you can use (I think):
1) sysadmin-main :)
2) Somewhat local (NYC - a quick Amtrak ride away from Boston, and
MBTA out to Needham from there)
3) Experience with FAD's
What I would need from you is budget to get me there, a hotel room,
and that's about it :)
Note that I don't have much experience with Java as a programming
language, however, from a former life I do have experience deploying
Java apps.
I'm somewhat limited in my availability outside of evenings/weekends -
I do have a rather demanding $DAYJOB, and can't get on IRC (or gmail)
from work at any rate generally. But if you send mail, bug me on IRC
(jds2001), or send carrier pigeons, I'll generally respond in some
reasonable amount of time. :)
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