I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
-Mike
Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@redhat.com) said:
I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
Do we have an existing news feed for these sorts of things we can easily tie in?
(There's an implied 'if not, why not' there, but I doubt I have time to work on such a thing.)
Bill
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@redhat.com) said:
I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
Do we have an existing news feed for these sorts of things we can easily tie in?
No, but we will when Fedora Insight is deployed. They've been working on it for many months now but nothing in production yet.
-Mike
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgrath@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@redhat.com) said:
I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
Do we have an existing news feed for these sorts of things we can easily tie in?
No, but we will when Fedora Insight is deployed. They've been working on it for many months now but nothing in production yet.
...So given that people would like such a news feed, this would be an ideal time to help get it up and going. Mel Chua is leading the charge and could really use a couple extra hands for a few hours. Mel, is the current issue ticket queue correct as far as what's still left to do?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=a...
Paul
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On 02/27/2010 07:30 AM, Paul Frields wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgrath@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@redhat.com) said:
I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
Do we have an existing news feed for these sorts of things we can easily tie in?
No, but we will when Fedora Insight is deployed. They've been working on it for many months now but nothing in production yet.
...So given that people would like such a news feed, this would be an ideal time to help get it up and going. Mel Chua is leading the charge and could really use a couple extra hands for a few hours. Mel, is the current issue ticket queue correct as far as what's still left to do?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=a...
Paul _______________________________________________ logistics mailing list logistics@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics
There is only one blocker, which I am sure will be done this weekend. After that a few steps and we should have most of the stuff up and running in stg.
- - Hiemanshu
...So given that people would like such a news feed, this would be an ideal time to help get it up and going. Mel Chua is leading the charge and could really use a couple extra hands for a few hours. Mel, is the current issue ticket queue correct as far as what's still left to do?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=a...
That's the correct queue for Infrastructure - there are also some tickets from FWN, and some tickets in Design. (As a side note, one of the big challenges of FI deployment is that it's such a cross-team project - making this kind of thing easier for next time is something we may want to talk about after the site launches.)
* FWN: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#FWN (all in the Infrastructure Trac) * Infrastructure: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Infrastructure * Design: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design
There is only one blocker, which I am sure will be done this weekend. After that a few steps and we should have most of the stuff up and running in stg.
Yep. And the final blocker Hiemanshu refers to is the ticket in Design that he's about to close (thank you! I owe you many cookies!)
As you may have noticed on this list, Pascal Calarco is leading a charge this weekend if you're free and would like to help - see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-February/000409.html.
--Mel
PS: For a couple days, Karsten Wade will be picking up the ball on stuff I'd usually be doing - we swapped projects for a week (I'm working on the Summer Coding SIG, he's working on FI, until sometime next week when we swap back). So s/Mel/Karsten for a little while - FI's getting his sysadmin-fu and Summer Coding's getting my marketing-fu for a couple days.
On 02/26/2010 10:29 PM, Mel Chua wrote:
...So given that people would like such a news feed, this would be an ideal time to help get it up and going. Mel Chua is leading the charge and could really use a couple extra hands for a few hours. Mel, is the current issue ticket queue correct as far as what's still left to do?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=a...
That's the correct queue for Infrastructure - there are also some tickets from FWN, and some tickets in Design. (As a side note, one of the big challenges of FI deployment is that it's such a cross-team project - making this kind of thing easier for next time is something we may want to talk about after the site launches.)
- FWN: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#FWN (all in the
Infrastructure Trac)
- Infrastructure:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Infrastructure
Design: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design
There is only one blocker, which I am sure will be done this weekend. After that a few steps and we should have most of the stuff up and running in stg.
Yep. And the final blocker Hiemanshu refers to is the ticket in Design that he's about to close (thank you! I owe you many cookies!)
As you may have noticed on this list, Pascal Calarco is leading a charge this weekend if you're free and would like to help - see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-February/000409.html.
--Mel
PS: For a couple days, Karsten Wade will be picking up the ball on stuff I'd usually be doing - we swapped projects for a week (I'm working on the Summer Coding SIG, he's working on FI, until sometime next week when we swap back). So s/Mel/Karsten for a little while - FI's getting his sysadmin-fu and Summer Coding's getting my marketing-fu for a couple days.
Awesome, thanks for all this info, Mel! I think we should be able to make great headway on these this weekend, perhaps almost all if we can bring over substantially-completed customizations from publictest6 to staging. I just sent out a summary of all of this cross-posted to marketing and news to bring folks up to speed with this.
- pascal
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On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 07:37:00AM +0530, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
On 02/27/2010 07:30 AM, Paul Frields wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgrath@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@redhat.com) said:
I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
Do we have an existing news feed for these sorts of things we can easily tie in?
No, but we will when Fedora Insight is deployed. They've been working on it for many months now but nothing in production yet.
...So given that people would like such a news feed, this would be an ideal time to help get it up and going. Mel Chua is leading the charge and could really use a couple extra hands for a few hours. Mel, is the current issue ticket queue correct as far as what's still left to do?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=a...
There is only one blocker, which I am sure will be done this weekend. After that a few steps and we should have most of the stuff up and running in stg.
The work you, Sijis, Mel, Pascal, and many other people have done is fantastic Hiemanshu. Thank you very much!
On 02/26/2010 09:00 PM, Paul Frields wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Mike McGrathmmcgrath@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Mike McGrath (mmcgrath@redhat.com) said:
I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
Do we have an existing news feed for these sorts of things we can easily tie in?
No, but we will when Fedora Insight is deployed. They've been working on it for many months now but nothing in production yet.
...So given that people would like such a news feed, this would be an ideal time to help get it up and going. Mel Chua is leading the charge and could really use a couple extra hands for a few hours. Mel, is the current issue ticket queue correct as far as what's still left to do?
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=a...
Those tickets were ones I opened, and related to where design was on publictest6. The staging server isn't even as far along as this, so I closed these, and have opened two new tickets for staging:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=a...
These are the two major components of work to be done: 1) customize pagemaster forms for content workflow; 2) end-user UI customization for Fedora Insight. As these get worked on and completed, there may be subsequent tasks.
We should be able to make headway on these this weekend, but will likely need additional design work prior to F13 launch.
- pascal
Paul _______________________________________________ logistics mailing list logistics@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Mike McGrath wrote:
I've been wondering if there's something more we can do with start.fedoraproject.org. I was thinking about adding more information to the site without cluttering it up. We chatted in #fedora-websites for a bit and thought about this:
2 boxes
Each box contains 3 "news" items
Each item would contain a title link, and very brief description
One box would be for Fedora Project news "Test day tomorrow", "Public Fedora Board Meeting"
One box would be for Fedora OS news "Alpha is out" "Try the new security spin", etc.
We were thinking about adding it along the left side if there's enough room. Some mockups will help identify best locations for sure.
Any thoughts/comments on it?
Done:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/new-startfpo.png
It's available for testing / viewing in the start.fp.o-news branch in the fedora-web git repo.
Every time the site builds, it pulls in these RSS feeds:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fpn.rss
and
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fdn.rss
It only displays 3 news items a piece, you get the idea. Hopefully if no one complains we can get this in to place and tested.
-Mike
Done:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/new-startfpo.png
It's available for testing / viewing in the start.fp.o-news branch in the fedora-web git repo.
Every time the site builds, it pulls in these RSS feeds:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fpn.rss
and
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fdn.rss
It only displays 3 news items a piece, you get the idea. Hopefully if no one complains we can get this in to place and tested.
Implementation idea for feeds: can haz identi.ca?
22:54 < mchua> mmcgrath: Looks good to me - the shortness actually reminds me of twitter feeds 22:54 < mchua> or well, identi.ca 22:54 < mchua> so that might be a quick and dirty way of getting Something That Works to pop in. 22:54 < mmcgrath> mchua: yeah, I wasn't sure how long those should be. 22:55 < mchua> mmcgrath: I think the one-terse-sentence-(fragment) is about right. 22:55 < mchua> Then we can link to longer articles if they're available - but identi.ca can provide the first-run feeds in, so it could theoretically work now pre-FI launch.
So I poked these into being:
http://identi.ca/fedoradistronews/ (feed is at http://identi.ca/api/statuses/friends_timeline/fedoradistronews.atom)
http://identi.ca/fedoraprojectnews (feed is at http://identi.ca/api/statuses/friends_timeline/fedoraprojectnews.atom)
I cloned the news points Mike picked (more or less) so if someone will try them out in the start.fp.o-news branch in the fedora-web git repo, they should, theoretically, Just Work. Iirc, we'd need to ask for permission to use the Fedora logo as an avatar - but that's the only further "setup" we'd have.
Both accounts are currently rather bottleneck-y (i.e. if I get hit by a bus, nobody else could get to those accounts) since they both go to my email address; we need to figure out a system for handling those sorts of things in general (or if we have one already, I need to learn to use it).
(Also, is there a FOSS alternative to bit.ly/tinyurl we use? I vaguely remember seeing one around but can't find it for the life of me; I may also be imagining things.)
--Mel
On 03/02/2010 02:32 AM, Mel Chua wrote:
Done:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/new-startfpo.png
It's available for testing / viewing in the start.fp.o-news branch in the fedora-web git repo.
Every time the site builds, it pulls in these RSS feeds:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fpn.rss
and
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fdn.rss
It only displays 3 news items a piece, you get the idea. Hopefully if no one complains we can get this in to place and tested.
Implementation idea for feeds: can haz identi.ca?
22:54< mchua> mmcgrath: Looks good to me - the shortness actually reminds me of twitter feeds 22:54< mchua> or well, identi.ca 22:54< mchua> so that might be a quick and dirty way of getting Something That Works to pop in. 22:54< mmcgrath> mchua: yeah, I wasn't sure how long those should be. 22:55< mchua> mmcgrath: I think the one-terse-sentence-(fragment) is about right. 22:55< mchua> Then we can link to longer articles if they're available
- but identi.ca can provide the first-run feeds in, so it could
theoretically work now pre-FI launch.
So I poked these into being:
http://identi.ca/fedoradistronews/ (feed is at http://identi.ca/api/statuses/friends_timeline/fedoradistronews.atom)
http://identi.ca/fedoraprojectnews (feed is at http://identi.ca/api/statuses/friends_timeline/fedoraprojectnews.atom)
I cloned the news points Mike picked (more or less) so if someone will try them out in the start.fp.o-news branch in the fedora-web git repo, they should, theoretically, Just Work. Iirc, we'd need to ask for permission to use the Fedora logo as an avatar - but that's the only further "setup" we'd have.
Both accounts are currently rather bottleneck-y (i.e. if I get hit by a bus, nobody else could get to those accounts) since they both go to my email address; we need to figure out a system for handling those sorts of things in general (or if we have one already, I need to learn to use it).
(Also, is there a FOSS alternative to bit.ly/tinyurl we use? I vaguely remember seeing one around but can't find it for the life of me; I may also be imagining things.)
Related to this effort is that we expect that we'll have RSS feeds for Fedora Insight content. I opened a new ticket on this last Sunday:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2009
Simon reports there are several ways to achieve this, so I will touch base with him and Hiemanshu and see when next we can get together.
- pascal
--Mel _______________________________________________ logistics mailing list logistics@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Mel Chua wrote:
Done:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/new-startfpo.png
It's available for testing / viewing in the start.fp.o-news branch in the fedora-web git repo.
Every time the site builds, it pulls in these RSS feeds:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fpn.rss
and
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/fdn.rss
It only displays 3 news items a piece, you get the idea. Hopefully if no one complains we can get this in to place and tested.
Implementation idea for feeds: can haz identi.ca?
22:54 < mchua> mmcgrath: Looks good to me - the shortness actually reminds me of twitter feeds 22:54 < mchua> or well, identi.ca 22:54 < mchua> so that might be a quick and dirty way of getting Something That Works to pop in. 22:54 < mmcgrath> mchua: yeah, I wasn't sure how long those should be. 22:55 < mchua> mmcgrath: I think the one-terse-sentence-(fragment) is about right. 22:55 < mchua> Then we can link to longer articles if they're available
- but identi.ca can provide the first-run feeds in, so it could
theoretically work now pre-FI launch.
So I poked these into being:
http://identi.ca/fedoradistronews/ (feed is at http://identi.ca/api/statuses/friends_timeline/fedoradistronews.atom)
http://identi.ca/fedoraprojectnews (feed is at http://identi.ca/api/statuses/friends_timeline/fedoraprojectnews.atom)
I cloned the news points Mike picked (more or less) so if someone will try them out in the start.fp.o-news branch in the fedora-web git repo, they should, theoretically, Just Work. Iirc, we'd need to ask for permission to use the Fedora logo as an avatar - but that's the only further "setup" we'd have.
Hmmmm. This one's not quite looking right:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/new-startfpo1.png
Notice the titles. I'll see if there's something I can do on my end.
Both accounts are currently rather bottleneck-y (i.e. if I get hit by a bus, nobody else could get to those accounts) since they both go to my email address; we need to figure out a system for handling those sorts of things in general (or if we have one already, I need to learn to use it).
That's the nice thing about rss feeds, we can pretty well move them around all willy nilly :).
-Mike
Hmmmm. This one's not quite looking right:
http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/new-startfpo1.png
Notice the titles. I'll see if there's something I can do on my end.
Talked with mmcgrath on IRC, identi.ca doesn't support post titles, so...
http://fedoradistronews.wordpress.com/ http://fedoradistronews.wordpress.com/feed/
http://fedoraprojectnews.wordpress.com/ http://fedoraprojectnews.wordpress.com/feed/
How's that?
I'm definitely going for the quick-and-dirty "make it work NOW" solution here in expectation of a better long-term non-kludge (FI) coming shortly. We're doing exactly the same thing for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Maintaining_distroblog_area_on_linux.com.
--Mel
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 13:53 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
Any thoughts/comments on it?
What problem(s) are we trying to solve here?
1) be more in your face about participation / actions needed in the fedora project. (Would be things like picking fedora code names, the alpha slips, etc)
2) Notify end users when we've done something they need to know about (a package update breaks things and needs manual intervention, a new release is out, an old released is no longer supported, etc)
-Mike
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