Etherpad FAD Update -- Need your input

[Colin Zwiebel]

The action Email:

I need your help!

== People ==
No Mel (  =[  ) will miss here.

We need some "heavy hitters" in Java build systems, packaging... most
anything listed

How do I/we get these people?
 (A: I'm going to email alumni, but thats no the only solution)

Pick off people individually?

Certain mailing lists I should go for?

I'm partially concerned because of:

== Cost Concerns ==
For the FAD, I'm planning on an outing to Masala Art. I've budgeted it in,
but at $14/person its a bit hefty. For attendees who have real
Java/Scala/build system/packaging chops, getting them a delicous brunch at
Masala Art is the least we can do for them. Buuut, for the random Oliner who
stops by and listens to a talk, I don't think paying for Masala Art Brunch
is a good use of Fedora/Red Hat funds.

Thoughts?

So, I would like to get knowledgeable "heavy hitters" as "registered
attendees." I'm actually a little concerned sending out registration invites
to Oliners ATM because I don't want people to come just for the $14 brunch.

Actually I'm concerned for the same reason with Fedora mailing lists. Buuut
I don't expect area locals to bother driving to Needham just for $14 brunch,
so probably less of a concern.

Again, thoughts?
Is this honest?
Should I remove brunch from the wiki?
Should I mark brunch as a "for serious devs only"? (this certainly seems
unfair).

Colin

P.S.
Eff, just found out that all my previous messages to logistics bounced
(no-member) and they've been filtering away.

[Tom Callaway]

On 08/18/2010 08:06 PM, Colin Zwiebel wrote:
> The action Email:
>
> I need your help!
>
> == People ==
> No Mel (  =[  ) will miss here.
>
> We need some "heavy hitters" in Java build systems, packaging... most
> anything listed

Who are you looking for, and when?

(Out of the loop, apologies.)

~spot

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:06:13PM -0600, Colin Zwiebel wrote:
> The action Email:
>
> I need your help!
>
> == People ==
> No Mel (  =[  ) will miss here.
>
> We need some "heavy hitters" in Java build systems, packaging... most
> anything listed
>
> How do I/we get these people?
>  (A: I'm going to email alumni, but thats no the only solution)
>
> Pick off people individually?
>
> Certain mailing lists I should go for?

There's a Fedora Java developers list, where I know there are some
build and packaging people:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/

I have no idea what the list members' availability is, but the first
step is reaching out to them of course. :-) Rather than just cc this
reply to that list (which might be confusing with a mixed context) it
would probably be better to send something new that gives the list
members specific motivations to get involved in this FAD.
> I'm partially concerned because of:
>
> == Cost Concerns ==
> For the FAD, I'm planning on an outing to Masala Art. I've budgeted it in,
> but at $14/person its a bit hefty. For attendees who have real
> Java/Scala/build system/packaging chops, getting them a delicous brunch at
> Masala Art is the least we can do for them. Buuut, for the random Oliner who
> stops by and listens to a talk, I don't think paying for Masala Art Brunch
> is a good use of Fedora/Red Hat funds.
>
> Thoughts?

This seems very reasonable to me.  It's easy for us to pick up a lunch
tab for people who are doing heavy lifting.  Just be sure to save the
receipt so we can get you (or whoever pays the tab) properly
reimbursed.
> So, I would like to get knowledgeable "heavy hitters" as "registered
> attendees." I'm actually a little concerned sending out registration invites
> to Oliners ATM because I don't want people to come just for the $14 brunch.
>
> Actually I'm concerned for the same reason with Fedora mailing lists. Buuut
> I don't expect area locals to bother driving to Needham just for $14 brunch,
> so probably less of a concern.
>
> Again, thoughts?
> Is this honest?
> Should I remove brunch from the wiki?
> Should I mark brunch as a "for serious devs only"? (this certainly seems
> unfair).

If you don't want the brunch to be a consideration in whether people
show up, I'd just remove it, and worry about it on the fly with the
knowledge that we can pick up a brunch tab if it helps get things
done.
> Colin
>
> P.S.
> Eff, just found out that all my previous messages to logistics bounced
> (no-member) and they've been filtering away.

If I see any in the moderation queue I'll discard them -- I received
this and the previous message without a problem.