(Cross-posted to logistics & docs lists because of wider topic.)
John Poelstra has proposed having the Zikula schedule discussion as the first part of the Docs meeting this week, after Paul's suggestion to preempt the Docs meeting for this important topic. Because that works best via voice, we are going to be mostly discussing on sip:2009@talk.fedoraproject.org.
How about if we just *move* the Zikula coordination meeting to interact with the Docs meeting until the CMS is rolled out? How does Docs feel about that?
To do that, we would want to take all of the status-of-guides notices directly to the list _before_ the meeting. Then we can discuss exceptions to the schedule in the meeting, if needed.
This week, I propose that we spend the second part of the meeting discussing the Docs/L10n schedule. These goals:
1. Explain it to everyone present 2. Figure how to show key dates, etc. so it is clear to writers/editors 3. How to manage regular reminders (nagging) of upcoming dates
My experience shows that a complex schedule with a distributed team requires regular reminders and continuous understanding. Talk about it often. Show how it changes over time. Make sure people don't forget key dates. That's the (permanent) agenda topic I propose, starting this week with deeper understanding for all.
Since John (poelcat) will be present, he can help us explain the schedule; we can talk about presentation choices, etc.
cheers - Karsten
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:35, Karsten Wadekwade@redhat.com wrote:
(Cross-posted to logistics & docs lists because of wider topic.)
John Poelstra has proposed having the Zikula schedule discussion as the first part of the Docs meeting this week, after Paul's suggestion to preempt the Docs meeting for this important topic. Because that works best via voice, we are going to be mostly discussing on sip:2009@talk.fedoraproject.org.
How about if we just *move* the Zikula coordination meeting to interact with the Docs meeting until the CMS is rolled out? How does Docs feel about that?
Well, my only fear is that we currently burn up the entire hour talking about Zikula in our Zikula meetings and we also burn up an hour talking about Docs in our Docs meetings. The Docs team can stand to miss a meeting here and there but too many and we aren't going to be ready for the F12 roll out.
Also, the two teams involved (Docs and Zikula) are contain different people. Not everyone in Docs is working on the Zikula project.
cheers - Karsten
Just my $0.02...
--Eric
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:22:30AM -0400, Eric Christensen wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:35, Karsten Wadekwade@redhat.com wrote:
(Cross-posted to logistics & docs lists because of wider topic.)
John Poelstra has proposed having the Zikula schedule discussion as the first part of the Docs meeting this week, after Paul's suggestion to preempt the Docs meeting for this important topic. Because that works best via voice, we are going to be mostly discussing on sip:2009@talk.fedoraproject.org.
How about if we just *move* the Zikula coordination meeting to interact with the Docs meeting until the CMS is rolled out? How does Docs feel about that?
Well, my only fear is that we currently burn up the entire hour talking about Zikula in our Zikula meetings and we also burn up an hour talking about Docs in our Docs meetings. The Docs team can stand to miss a meeting here and there but too many and we aren't going to be ready for the F12 roll out.
Also, the two teams involved (Docs and Zikula) are contain different people. Not everyone in Docs is working on the Zikula project.
Understood. Just to clarify, does this mean that you're OK with doing it this once, to get the Zikula schedule clarified? Or do you have an alternate suggestion that would help us get that done without disrupting the Docs meeting schedule?
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:23, Paul W. Frieldsstickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:22:30AM -0400, Eric Christensen wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 14:35, Karsten Wadekwade@redhat.com wrote:
(Cross-posted to logistics & docs lists because of wider topic.)
John Poelstra has proposed having the Zikula schedule discussion as the first part of the Docs meeting this week, after Paul's suggestion to preempt the Docs meeting for this important topic. Because that works best via voice, we are going to be mostly discussing on sip:2009@talk.fedoraproject.org.
How about if we just *move* the Zikula coordination meeting to interact with the Docs meeting until the CMS is rolled out? How does Docs feel about that?
Well, my only fear is that we currently burn up the entire hour talking about Zikula in our Zikula meetings and we also burn up an hour talking about Docs in our Docs meetings. The Docs team can stand to miss a meeting here and there but too many and we aren't going to be ready for the F12 roll out.
Also, the two teams involved (Docs and Zikula) are contain different people. Not everyone in Docs is working on the Zikula project.
Understood. Just to clarify, does this mean that you're OK with doing it this once, to get the Zikula schedule clarified? Or do you have an alternate suggestion that would help us get that done without disrupting the Docs meeting schedule?
I'm good with doing it once to get back on track. I don't think combining the two meetings together will yield enough time to do either projects, though.
I don't think John (jjmcd) is working on the Zikula stuff. He could actually run the Docs meeting tonight for those that aren't working on Zikula to talk about the Alpha release and getting stuff ready for Beta.
--Eric
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:29:37AM -0400, Eric Christensen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:23, Paul W. Frieldsstickster@gmail.com wrote:
Understood. Just to clarify, does this mean that you're OK with doing it this once, to get the Zikula schedule clarified? Or do you have an alternate suggestion that would help us get that done without disrupting the Docs meeting schedule?
I'm good with doing it once to get back on track. I don't think combining the two meetings together will yield enough time to do either projects, though.
BTW, one reason I proposed a combining of the meetings is the obvious challenge John Poelcat has had getting i) a Zikula meeting time, and ii) all of us to be there. I thought combining or adding to our meeting would work best because it's a fixed timed we already have in the rhythm.
- Karsten
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