Re: disable desktop background in fedora 13 (LXDE)

[Ranjan Maitra]

Thanks, Christoph. I have now subscribed to the lxde fedora mailing
list.
> Edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and change the line that reads 
> or remove it completely. Instead add a line for xplanet
>
> @xplanet

I have also added

@oclock -geometry -0+0 -tr -fg red -bd red -jewel red

to get the oclock autostarted there (and it works). However, I would
like to add this clock on all my desktops as well as without the
border. Do you know how I can do this using the autostarted feature?
It is a bit of a bother to actually have to go and click the bar at the
top of the oclock each time.

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan

disable desktop background in fedora 13 (LXDE)

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 21:24 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> Thanks, Christoph. I have now subscribed to the lxde fedora mailing
> list.

Welcome Ranjan, that was quick. :)
> > Edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and change the line that reads 
> > or remove it completely. Instead add a line for xplanet
> >
> > @xplanet
>
> I have also added
>
> @oclock -geometry -0+0 -tr -fg red -bd red -jewel red
>
> to get the oclock autostarted there (and it works). However, I would
> like to add this clock on all my desktops as well as without the
> border. Do you know how I can do this using the autostarted feature?

Look into .config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml. If the file does not exist, you
need to copy over /usr/share/lxde/openbox/rc.xml to that location.

At the end of the file you will find the window matching rules. Add a
new one for xclock:

<application name="xclock" class="XClock">
    <decor>no</decor>
    <shade>no</shade>
    <position>
      <x>0</x>
      <y>0</y>
      <monitor>1</monitor>
    </position>
    <focus>no</focus>
    <desktop>all</desktop>
    <layer>normal</layer>
    <iconic>no</iconic>
    <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
    <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
  </application>

<desktop>all</desktop> is the option you are looking for. You can also
leave out the options that you already pass to xclock at the command
line such as position.

Regards,
Christoph

disable desktop background in fedora 13 (LXDE)

[Ranjan Maitra]

Dear Christoph,

Thanks very much for your e-mail and your suggestions! However, I have
a problem:

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 01:37:49 -0500 Christoph Wickert
 wrote:
> Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 21:24 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> > Thanks, Christoph. I have now subscribed to the lxde fedora mailing
> > list.
>
> Welcome Ranjan, that was quick. :)
> > > Edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and change the line that reads 
> > > or remove it completely. Instead add a line for xplanet
> > >
> > > @xplanet
> >
> > I have also added
> >
> > @oclock -geometry -0+0 -tr -fg red -bd red -jewel red
> >
> > to get the oclock autostarted there (and it works). However, I would
> > like to add this clock on all my desktops as well as without the
> > border. Do you know how I can do this using the autostarted feature?
>
> Look into .config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml. If the file does not exist, you
> need to copy over /usr/share/lxde/openbox/rc.xml to that location.
>
> At the end of the file you will find the window matching rules. Add a
> new one for xclock:
>
>   <application name="xclock" class="XClock">
>     <decor>no</decor>
>     <shade>no</shade>
>     <position>
>       <x>0</x>
>       <y>0</y>
>       <monitor>1</monitor>
>     </position>
>     <focus>no</focus>
>     <desktop>all</desktop>
>     <layer>normal</layer>
>     <iconic>no</iconic>
>     <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
>     <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
>   </application>
>
> <desktop>all</desktop> is the option you are looking for. You can also
> leave out the options that you already pass to xclock at the command
> line such as position.

The application is called oclock so I replaced the xclock and the
XClock in the above with that. (It did not work otherwise also.)
However, this has no effect on the desktop and other effects that I
wanted.

Could you please try and see if it works for you? I am very perplexed.

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
> Regards,
> Christoph

disable desktop background in fedora 13 (LXDE)

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 08:03 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> Dear Christoph,
>
> Thanks very much for your e-mail and your suggestions! However, I have
> a problem:
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 01:37:49 -0500 Christoph Wickert
>  wrote:
> > Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 21:24 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> > > Thanks, Christoph. I have now subscribed to the lxde fedora mailing
> > > list.
> >
> > Welcome Ranjan, that was quick. :)
> > > > Edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and change the line that reads 
> > > > or remove it completely. Instead add a line for xplanet
> > > >
> > > > @xplanet
> > >
> > > I have also added
> > >
> > > @oclock -geometry -0+0 -tr -fg red -bd red -jewel red
> > >
> > > to get the oclock autostarted there (and it works). However, I would
> > > like to add this clock on all my desktops as well as without the
> > > border. Do you know how I can do this using the autostarted feature?
> >
> > Look into .config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml. If the file does not exist, you
> > need to copy over /usr/share/lxde/openbox/rc.xml to that location.
> >
> > At the end of the file you will find the window matching rules. Add a
> > new one for xclock:
> >
> >   <application name="xclock" class="XClock">
> >     <decor>no</decor>
> >     <shade>no</shade>
> >     <position>
> >       <x>0</x>
> >       <y>0</y>
> >       <monitor>1</monitor>
> >     </position>
> >     <focus>no</focus>
> >     <desktop>all</desktop>
> >     <layer>normal</layer>
> >     <iconic>no</iconic>
> >     <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
> >     <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
> >   </application>
> >
> > <desktop>all</desktop> is the option you are looking for. You can also
> > leave out the options that you already pass to xclock at the command
> > line such as position.
>
> The application is called oclock so I replaced the xclock and the
> XClock in the above with that. (It did not work otherwise also.)
> However, this has no effect on the desktop and other effects that I
> wanted.

I don't know where you have oclock from, so I cannot look up the values
for you. Please run xclock, then run xprop in a terminal and click on
the xclock window. xprop will return info about the program in the
terminal. The values of WM_CLASS(STRING) match application name and
class in the openbox configuration. Example:

WM_CLASS(STRING) = "xclock", "XClock"

first argument is name, second is class, so it becomes

<application name="xclock" class="XClock">
> Could you please try and see if it works for you? I am very perplexed.

This is how I get xclock into the top right corner:

<application name="xclock" class="XClock">
      <decor>no</decor>
      <shade>no</shade>
      <position>
        <x>-0</x>
        <y>0</y>
        <monitor>1</monitor>
      </position>
      <focus>no</focus>
      <desktop>all</desktop>
      <layer>below</layer>
      <iconic>no</iconic>
      <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
      <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
    </application>
  </applications>

as you see I have changed the position (-1) and the layer (below).

Kind regards,
Christoph

disable desktop background in fedora 13 (LXDE)

[Ranjan Maitra]

Hi Christoph,

oclock is in  xorg-x11-apps in fedora which I think is installed with
the F13 LXDE spin.

Many thanks,
Ranjan

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 09:37:48 -0500 Christoph Wickert
 wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 08:03 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> > Dear Christoph,
> >
> > Thanks very much for your e-mail and your suggestions! However, I have
> > a problem:
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 01:37:49 -0500 Christoph Wickert
> >  wrote:
> > > Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 21:24 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> > > > Thanks, Christoph. I have now subscribed to the lxde fedora mailing
> > > > list.
> > >
> > > Welcome Ranjan, that was quick. :)
> > > > > Edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and change the line that reads 
> > > > > or remove it completely. Instead add a line for xplanet
> > > > >
> > > > > @xplanet
> > > >
> > > > I have also added
> > > >
> > > > @oclock -geometry -0+0 -tr -fg red -bd red -jewel red
> > > >
> > > > to get the oclock autostarted there (and it works). However, I would
> > > > like to add this clock on all my desktops as well as without the
> > > > border. Do you know how I can do this using the autostarted feature?
> > >
> > > Look into .config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml. If the file does not exist, you
> > > need to copy over /usr/share/lxde/openbox/rc.xml to that location.
> > >
> > > At the end of the file you will find the window matching rules. Add a
> > > new one for xclock:
> > >
> > >   <application name="xclock" class="XClock">
> > >     <decor>no</decor>
> > >     <shade>no</shade>
> > >     <position>
> > >       <x>0</x>
> > >       <y>0</y>
> > >       <monitor>1</monitor>
> > >     </position>
> > >     <focus>no</focus>
> > >     <desktop>all</desktop>
> > >     <layer>normal</layer>
> > >     <iconic>no</iconic>
> > >     <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
> > >     <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
> > >   </application>
> > >
> > > <desktop>all</desktop> is the option you are looking for. You can also
> > > leave out the options that you already pass to xclock at the command
> > > line such as position.
> >
> > The application is called oclock so I replaced the xclock and the
> > XClock in the above with that. (It did not work otherwise also.)
> > However, this has no effect on the desktop and other effects that I
> > wanted.
>
> I don't know where you have oclock from, so I cannot look up the values
> for you. Please run xclock, then run xprop in a terminal and click on
> the xclock window. xprop will return info about the program in the
> terminal. The values of WM_CLASS(STRING) match application name and
> class in the openbox configuration. Example:
>
> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "xclock", "XClock"
>
> first argument is name, second is class, so it becomes
>
> <application name="xclock" class="XClock">
> > Could you please try and see if it works for you? I am very perplexed.
>
> This is how I get xclock into the top right corner:
> <application name="xclock" class="XClock">
>   <decor>no</decor>
>   <shade>no</shade>
>   <position>
>     <x>-0</x>
>     <y>0</y>
>     <monitor>1</monitor>
>   </position>
>   <focus>no</focus>
>   <desktop>all</desktop>
>   <layer>below</layer>
>   <iconic>no</iconic>
>   <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
>   <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
> </application>
>
>   </applications>
>
> as you see I have changed the position (-1) and the layer (below).
>
> Kind regards,
> Christoph
>
> lxde mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/lxde

disable desktop background in fedora 13 (LXDE)

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 09:47 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> Hi Christoph,
>
> oclock is in  xorg-x11-apps in fedora which I think is installed with
> the F13 LXDE spin.

Oops, you are right Ranjan.

When you run xprop on oclock, you will see that the WM_CLASS is

WM_CLASS(STRING) = "oclock", "Clock"

This means the rule needs to start with

<application name="oclock" class="Clock">

And please make sure that the rule is within the <applications> section.

Regards,
Christoph

disable desktop background in fedora 13 (LXDE)

[Ranjan Maitra]

Great, Christoph! It works now like a charm. Many thanks for your
explanations also. This will be a major help for other applications
also!

Best wishes,
Ranjan

On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:21:07 -0500 Christoph Wickert
 wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 09:47 -0500 schrieb Ranjan Maitra:
> > Hi Christoph,
> >
> > oclock is in  xorg-x11-apps in fedora which I think is installed with
> > the F13 LXDE spin.
>
> Oops, you are right Ranjan.
>
> When you run xprop on oclock, you will see that the WM_CLASS is
>
> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "oclock", "Clock"
>
> This means the rule needs to start with
>
> <application name="oclock" class="Clock">
>
> And please make sure that the rule is within the <applications> section.
>
> Regards,
> Christoph
>
> lxde mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/lxde