need to make an edit on NVIDIA article

[Justice Delcastillo]

Hello everybody,

It's been brought to our attention that part of our guide uses a technique
that could cause problems according to RPM Fusion, and we would like to
make appropriate edits.

We would need to remove bullet point 8 under 'Installation' and replace
'Then, reboot once again.' in bullet point 7 with, 'If you're using an
older GPU or plan to use multiple GPUs, check this website
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA?highlight=%28CategoryHowto%29 for
further instructions.'

Also, at the end of the article, could we add '*Coauthored by Matthew
Kenney and Justice del Castillo.*'

Thanks y'all,
jdc

[Link Dupont]

Hi Justice,

Do you want to remove the entire "#8" from Installation? This entire 
section:

8. After reboot, go to ‘Show Applications’ on the side bar, and 
open up the newly added NVIDIA X Server Settings application. A GUI 
should open up, and a dialog box will appear with the following message:

NVIDIA X Server Prompt

Take the application’s advice, but before doing so, ensure you have 
your NVIDIA GPU on-hand and are ready to install. Please note that 
running nvidia xconfig as root and powering off without installing your 
GPU immediately  may cause drastic damage. Doing so may prevent your 
computer from booting, and force you to repair the system through the 
reboot screen. A fresh install of Fedora may fix these issues, but the 
effects can be much worse.

If you’re ready to proceed, enter the command:

sudo nvidia-xconfig

If the system prompts you to perform any downloads, accept them and 
proceed.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Justice Delcastillo 
 wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> It's been brought to our attention that part of our guide uses a 
> technique
> that could cause problems according to RPM Fusion, and we would like 
> to
> make appropriate edits.
>
> We would need to remove bullet point 8 under 'Installation' and 
> replace
> 'Then, reboot once again.' in bullet point 7 with, 'If you're using an
> older GPU or plan to use multiple GPUs, check this website
> https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA?highlight=%28CategoryHowto%29 for
> further instructions.'
>
> Also, at the end of the article, could we add '*Coauthored by Matthew
> Kenney and Justice del Castillo.*'
>
> Thanks y'all,
> jdc
>
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[justice del castillo]

Yep! And, I forgot to mention, we should probably change bullet 9 to 8 as well.

Also, if we could remove the ", with the fans facing down. If there is no space for the fans to ventilate in this position, place the graphics card face up instead, if possible." part of Installation's tenth bullet point, that would be great.

Finally, if we could add a note saying "NOTE: this guide only covers hardware installation for desktop computers, although the NVIDIA driver installation will be relevant for laptops as well." at the bottom of the preparation section, that would be much appreciated as well.

Thank you!
jdc

[Link Dupont]

Hi Justice,

I have made these changes to the article. Take a look at let me know if 
you notice anything else.

Link

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM, justice del castillo 
 wrote:
> Yep! And, I forgot to mention, we should probably change bullet 9 to 
> 8 as well.
>
> Also, if we could remove the ", with the fans facing down. If there 
> is no space for the fans to ventilate in this position, place the 
> graphics card face up instead, if possible." part of Installation's 
> tenth bullet point, that would be great.
>
> Finally, if we could add a note saying "NOTE: this guide only covers 
> hardware installation for desktop computers, although the NVIDIA 
> driver installation will be relevant for laptops as well." at the 
> bottom of the preparation section, that would be much appreciated as 
> well.
>
> Thank you!
> jdc
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[James Thornber]

Hi,

Reads well, I think! :) I've made a few suggestions below, feel free to use
if you think that they add to the article :)

Perhaps change this:
If you don't know it, open a Terminal (Applications > System Tools >
Terminal) and type:

To this:
If you don't know how to do it, open a.....

Consider changing this:
This driver is suitable for any GPU found in 2010 and later.

To:
This driver is suitable for any GPU made since 2010 and later.

Perhaps from (3 times in the article):
Please remember to wait until the kmod get built earch time a new kernel
rise up.

To:
Please remember to wait whilst the kmod gets rebuilt each time the
workstation or server is rebooted.

Hmm... Is it worth moving the secure boot section more towards the top of
the article? It's a fairly big Show-Stopper - it's only a thought, as I'd
hate for people to try to install the nvidia drivers to find themselves
with a secure boot install! XD

Best,

James

On Sat, 7 Jul 2018, 20:30 Link Dupont,  wrote:
> Hi Justice,
>
> I have made these changes to the article. Take a look at let me know if
> you notice anything else.
>
> Link
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM, justice del castillo
>  wrote:
> > Yep! And, I forgot to mention, we should probably change bullet 9 to
> > 8 as well.
> >
> > Also, if we could remove the ", with the fans facing down. If there
> > is no space for the fans to ventilate in this position, place the
> > graphics card face up instead, if possible." part of Installation's
> > tenth bullet point, that would be great.
> >
> > Finally, if we could add a note saying "NOTE: this guide only covers
> > hardware installation for desktop computers, although the NVIDIA
> > driver installation will be relevant for laptops as well." at the
> > bottom of the preparation section, that would be much appreciated as
> > well.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > jdc
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[Link Dupont]

Hi James,

Thank you for your feedback, however, we generally don't make edits to 
published articles except to correct inaccuracies. If you would like to 
collaborate on future articles, feel free to join the IRC channel or 
the weekly editorial meetings. Contributors are always welcome!

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine

Link

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:13 PM, James Thornber 
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Reads well, I think! :) I've made a few suggestions below, feel free 
> to use
> if you think that they add to the article :)
>
> Perhaps change this:
> If you don't know it, open a Terminal (Applications > System Tools >
> Terminal) and type:
>
> To this:
> If you don't know how to do it, open a.....
>
> Consider changing this:
> This driver is suitable for any GPU found in 2010 and later.
>
> To:
> This driver is suitable for any GPU made since 2010 and later.
>
> Perhaps from (3 times in the article):
> Please remember to wait until the kmod get built earch time a new 
> kernel
> rise up.
>
> To:
> Please remember to wait whilst the kmod gets rebuilt each time the
> workstation or server is rebooted.
>
> Hmm... Is it worth moving the secure boot section more towards the 
> top of
> the article? It's a fairly big Show-Stopper - it's only a thought, as 
> I'd
> hate for people to try to install the nvidia drivers to find 
> themselves
> with a secure boot install! XD
>
> Best,
>
> James
>
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2018, 20:30 Link Dupont,  wrote:
> > Hi Justice,
> >
> > I have made these changes to the article. Take a look at let me 
> > know if
> >  you notice anything else.
> >
> > Link
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM, justice del castillo
> >   wrote:
> > > Yep! And, I forgot to mention, we should probably change bullet 9
> >
> > to
> > > 8 as well.
> > >
> > > Also, if we could remove the ", with the fans facing down. If
> >
> > there
> > > is no space for the fans to ventilate in this position, place the
> > > graphics card face up instead, if possible." part of
> >
> > Installation's
> > > tenth bullet point, that would be great.
> > >
> > > Finally, if we could add a note saying "NOTE: this guide only
> >
> > covers
> > > hardware installation for desktop computers, although the NVIDIA
> > > driver installation will be relevant for laptops as well." at the
> > > bottom of the preparation section, that would be much appreciated
> >
> > as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > > jdc
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[James Thornber]

Hi Link,

Sorry about that! I'll certainly do what you suggest below :)

Many thanks,

James

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, 04:18 Link Dupont,  wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> Thank you for your feedback, however, we generally don't make edits to
> published articles except to correct inaccuracies. If you would like to
> collaborate on future articles, feel free to join the IRC channel or
> the weekly editorial meetings. Contributors are always welcome!
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine
>
> Link
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:13 PM, James Thornber
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Reads well, I think! :) I've made a few suggestions below, feel free
> > to use
> > if you think that they add to the article :)
> >
> > Perhaps change this:
> > If you don't know it, open a Terminal (Applications > System Tools >
> > Terminal) and type:
> >
> > To this:
> > If you don't know how to do it, open a.....
> >
> > Consider changing this:
> > This driver is suitable for any GPU found in 2010 and later.
> >
> > To:
> > This driver is suitable for any GPU made since 2010 and later.
> >
> > Perhaps from (3 times in the article):
> > Please remember to wait until the kmod get built earch time a new
> > kernel
> > rise up.
> >
> > To:
> > Please remember to wait whilst the kmod gets rebuilt each time the
> > workstation or server is rebooted.
> >
> > Hmm... Is it worth moving the secure boot section more towards the
> > top of
> > the article? It's a fairly big Show-Stopper - it's only a thought, as
> > I'd
> > hate for people to try to install the nvidia drivers to find
> > themselves
> > with a secure boot install! XD
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Jul 2018, 20:30 Link Dupont,  wrote:
> > > Hi Justice,
> > >
> > > I have made these changes to the article. Take a look at let me
> > > know if
> > >  you notice anything else.
> > >
> > > Link
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM, justice del castillo
> > >   wrote:
> > > > Yep! And, I forgot to mention, we should probably change bullet 9
> > >
> > > to
> > > > 8 as well.
> > > >
> > > > Also, if we could remove the ", with the fans facing down. If
> > >
> > > there
> > > > is no space for the fans to ventilate in this position, place the
> > > > graphics card face up instead, if possible." part of
> > >
> > > Installation's
> > > > tenth bullet point, that would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Finally, if we could add a note saying "NOTE: this guide only
> > >
> > > covers
> > > > hardware installation for desktop computers, although the NVIDIA
> > > > driver installation will be relevant for laptops as well." at the
> > > > bottom of the preparation section, that would be much appreciated
> > >
> > > as
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > > jdc
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[Justice del Castillo]

Hey Link,

After getting some user feedback, we think adding this:

"Finally, to ensure a successful reboot, set "WaylandEnable=false" in
/etc/gdm/custom.conf, and make sure to avoid using secure boot."

to the end of first paragraph in Installation step seven would solve
reported problems.

Also, we've been hearing a lot about how this article seems to support
proprietary products, so if you think it would be appropriate to add a
disclaimer to the beginning of the article, we typed this one up:

"Disclaimer: Neither Fedora Magazine, nor the authors of this article,
support or endorse NVIDIA software or products, and recommend the use of
open source alternatives where possible."

Thank you for helping with these edits.

jdc

El sáb., 7 de jul. de 2018 a la(s) 15:30, Link Dupont ([e-mail])
escribió:
> Hi Justice,
>
> I have made these changes to the article. Take a look at let me know if
> you notice anything else.
>
> Link
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM, justice del castillo
>  wrote:
> > Yep! And, I forgot to mention, we should probably change bullet 9 to
> > 8 as well.
> >
> > Also, if we could remove the ", with the fans facing down. If there
> > is no space for the fans to ventilate in this position, place the
> > graphics card face up instead, if possible." part of Installation's
> > tenth bullet point, that would be great.
> >
> > Finally, if we could add a note saying "NOTE: this guide only covers
> > hardware installation for desktop computers, although the NVIDIA
> > driver installation will be relevant for laptops as well." at the
> > bottom of the preparation section, that would be much appreciated as
> > well.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > jdc
> > _______________________________________________
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[Link Dupont]

Hi Justice,

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Justice del Castillo 
 wrote:
> Hey Link,
>
> After getting some user feedback, we think adding this:
>
> "Finally, to ensure a successful reboot, set "WaylandEnable=false" in
> /etc/gdm/custom.conf, and make sure to avoid using secure boot."
>
> to the end of first paragraph in Installation step seven would solve
> reported problems.

Done. The way this guide is written,  do you think you'd be interested 
in replicating it on docs.fedoraproject.org, maybe as a Quick Doc 
(https://docs.fedoraproject.org/quick-docs/en-US/index.html)? Guides 
there can be edited over time, as their topic evolves, whereas an 
article cannot.
> Also, we've been hearing a lot about how this article seems to support
> proprietary products, so if you think it would be appropriate to add a
> disclaimer to the beginning of the article, we typed this one up:
>
> "Disclaimer: Neither Fedora Magazine, nor the authors of this article,
> support or endorse NVIDIA software or products, and recommend the use 
> of
> open source alternatives where possible."

This article has been a very hot topic these last couple weeks. I'm not 
sure that disclaimer would do anything to quell the grumbling. NVIDIA 
as a topic is polarizing in the Linux community. This article avoids 
opinion and sticks to a straightfoward, practical installation guide. I 
like that about it, so I think we can go without a disclaimer. Thanks 
though!
> Thank you for helping with these edits.
>
> jdc
>
> El sáb., 7 de jul. de 2018 a la(s) 15:30, Link Dupont 
> ([e-mail])
> escribió:
> > Hi Justice,
> >
> > I have made these changes to the article. Take a look at let me 
> > know if
> >  you notice anything else.
> >
> > Link
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM, justice del castillo
> >   wrote:
> > > Yep! And, I forgot to mention, we should probably change bullet 9
> >
> > to
> > > 8 as well.
> > >
> > > Also, if we could remove the ", with the fans facing down. If
> >
> > there
> > > is no space for the fans to ventilate in this position, place the
> > > graphics card face up instead, if possible." part of
> >
> > Installation's
> > > tenth bullet point, that would be great.
> > >
> > > Finally, if we could add a note saying "NOTE: this guide only
> >
> > covers
> > > hardware installation for desktop computers, although the NVIDIA
> > > driver installation will be relevant for laptops as well." at the
> > > bottom of the preparation section, that would be much appreciated
> >
> > as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > > jdc
> > > _______________________________________________
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