Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
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Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
* Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49) * Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30) * Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33) * ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
* Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49) * --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01) * ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40) * stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16) * stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
* Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34) * We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34) * AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
* All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19) * ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57) * ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
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Hello Editorial Board,
Could someone take a look at the following to give a once over for things I may have missed? This is regarding the article that was supposed to publish Monday. the post is here https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25356&preview=true&preview_id=25356 , hopefully the preview works for you.
Thank you and regards,
Steve
On 06/03/19 05:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary
Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49)
- Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30)
- Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33)
- ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49)
- --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01)
- ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40)
- stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16)
- stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34)
- We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54)
- LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34)
- AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19)
- ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57)
- ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
Action Items
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- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
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- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
- gregbartholomew
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- jakfrost
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- ryanlerch
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- stickster
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- **UNASSIGNED**
- (none)
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I think there might be a small technical issue that you should double-check with the author about. In the "Add a new menu entry to GRUB" section, a sample grub menuentry is provided and the following paragraph states, "Please change the values (UUID, ...". But there is no example UUID or a placeholder for where one should go as was done with <IP>, <Gateway>, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see a little more explanation about what the various commands ("insmod ext2", "--hint='hd0,msdos1'", etc.) are doing and how they might need to be changed to match the reader's environment ("Is your boot partition formatted with a FAT filesystem on a GPT partition table? If so, ..." etc.).
Some sort of troubleshooting section at the end "would be nice" as well. In particular, a short section showing how you might be able to recover from a system that boots into a grub shell. For example, something like:
If your configuration fails and you get a "grub>" shell prompt, you can try to load your backup configuration with the following commands:
grub> ls (hd0), (hd0,gpt1), (hd0,gpt2) grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/ grub2/ initramfs.img vmlinuz grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/grub2 device.map grub.cfg grub.cfg.bak grub> configfile (hd0,gpt1)/grub2/grub.cfg.bak
Again, this is just my personal opinion about how the article could be improved. A countervailing view might be that giving the reader too much information might scare them away.
Anyway, just some ideas, feel free to take it or leave it, gb
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 12:28 -0500, Steven Snow wrote:
Hello Editorial Board,
Could someone take a look at the following to give a once over for things I may have missed? This is regarding the article that was supposed to publish Monday. the post is here https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25356&preview=true&preview_id=25356 , hopefully the preview works for you.
Thank you and regards,
Steve
On 06/03/19 05:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary
Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49)
- Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30)
- Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33)
- ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49)
- --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01)
- ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40)
- stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16)
- stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34)
- We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54)
- LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34)
- AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19)
- ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57)
- ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
Action Items
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- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
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- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
- gregbartholomew
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- jakfrost
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- ryanlerch
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- stickster
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
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- (none)
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Hi Gregory,
Thanks again for responding.
Personally, I'd like to see a little more explanation about what the various commands ("insmod ext2", "--hint='hd0,msdos1'", etc.) are doing and how they might need to be changed to match the reader's environment ("Is your boot partition formatted with a FAT filesystem on a GPT partition table? If so, ..." etc.).
Well, there you sort of strike a point, to me, that indicates the article breadth goes beyond what normally fits in one Web Magazine article, in other words I think this should be a two part article. That would allow for proper explanation of each of the commands. My concern with the subject matter is it's potential to wreak havoc if the commands don't suit the environment.
I think there might be a small technical issue that you should double-check with the author about. In the "Add a new menu entry to GRUB" section, a sample grub menuentry is provided and the following paragraph states, "Please change the values (UUID, ...". But there is no example UUID or a placeholder for where one should go as was done with <IP>, <Gateway>, etc.
That was why I had the link at the end to point to the admin guide page for F29 for Grub2, where there are examples of how that command needs to be, but I will add the requisite label to make it like the others.
Some sort of troubleshooting section at the end "would be nice" as well.
That is a good idea, but I was getting concerned over the length. It is sort of getting to the point where it could be split over two articles, the material could allow for it certainly. I'll see what I can squeeze in to make it fit. Thank you for the suggestions, they help fine tune the article for sure.
Steve
I think there might be a small technical issue that you should double-check with the author about. In the "Add a new menu entry to GRUB" section, a sample grub menuentry is provided and the following paragraph states, "Please change the values (UUID, ...". But there is no example UUID or a placeholder for where one should go as was done with <IP>, <Gateway>, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see a little more explanation about what the various commands ("insmod ext2", "--hint='hd0,msdos1'", etc.) are doing and how they might need to be changed to match the reader's environment ("Is your boot partition formatted with a FAT filesystem on a GPT partition table? If so, ..." etc.).
Some sort of troubleshooting section at the end "would be nice" as well. In particular, a short section showing how you might be able to recover from a system that boots into a grub shell. For example, something like:
If your configuration fails and you get a "grub>" shell prompt, you can try to load your backup configuration with the following commands:
grub> ls (hd0), (hd0,gpt1), (hd0,gpt2) grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/ grub2/ initramfs.img vmlinuz grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/grub2 device.map grub.cfg grub.cfg.bak grub> configfile (hd0,gpt1)/grub2/grub.cfg.bak
Again, this is just my personal opinion about how the article could be improved. A countervailing view might be that giving the reader too much information might scare them away.
Anyway, just some ideas, feel free to take it or leave it, gb
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 12:28 -0500, Steven Snow wrote:
Hello Editorial Board,
Could someone take a look at the following to give a once over for things I may have missed? This is regarding the article that was supposed to publish Monday. the post is here https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25356&preview=true&preview_id=25356 , hopefully the preview works for you.
Thank you and regards,
Steve
On 06/03/19 05:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary
Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49)
- Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30)
- Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33)
- ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49)
- --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01)
- ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40)
- stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16)
- stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34)
- We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54)
- LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34)
- AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19)
- ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57)
- ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
Action Items
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
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- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
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- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- ryanlerch
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- stickster
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
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Hi,
I have made the changes as far as I could tonight. If you think there needs more polishing I am starting my day early tomorrow so I'll check in on this.
Regards
Steve
On 07/03/19 02:12 PM, Gregory Lee Bartholomew wrote:
I think there might be a small technical issue that you should double-check with the author about. In the "Add a new menu entry to GRUB" section, a sample grub menuentry is provided and the following paragraph states, "Please change the values (UUID, ...". But there is no example UUID or a placeholder for where one should go as was done with <IP>, <Gateway>, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see a little more explanation about what the various commands ("insmod ext2", "--hint='hd0,msdos1'", etc.) are doing and how they might need to be changed to match the reader's environment ("Is your boot partition formatted with a FAT filesystem on a GPT partition table? If so, ..." etc.).
Some sort of troubleshooting section at the end "would be nice" as well. In particular, a short section showing how you might be able to recover from a system that boots into a grub shell. For example, something like:
If your configuration fails and you get a "grub>" shell prompt, you can try to load your backup configuration with the following commands:
grub> ls (hd0), (hd0,gpt1), (hd0,gpt2) grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/ grub2/ initramfs.img vmlinuz grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/grub2 device.map grub.cfg grub.cfg.bak grub> configfile (hd0,gpt1)/grub2/grub.cfg.bak
Again, this is just my personal opinion about how the article could be improved. A countervailing view might be that giving the reader too much information might scare them away.
Anyway, just some ideas, feel free to take it or leave it, gb
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 12:28 -0500, Steven Snow wrote:
Hello Editorial Board,
Could someone take a look at the following to give a once over for things I may have missed? This is regarding the article that was supposed to publish Monday. the post is here https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25356&preview=true&preview_id=25356 , hopefully the preview works for you.
Thank you and regards,
Steve
On 06/03/19 05:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary
Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49)
- Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30)
- Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33)
- ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49)
- --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01)
- ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40)
- stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16)
- stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34)
- We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54)
- LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34)
- AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19)
- ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57)
- ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
Action Items
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
Action Items, by person
- cverna
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
- gregbartholomew
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- jakfrost
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- ryanlerch
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- stickster
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- **UNASSIGNED**
- (none)
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Thanks Steven. This article was intended to go out today (Friday) and usually we publish at 0800 UTC (3am US/Eastern). Don't worry, it's not a disaster or anything, just a note for schedule awareness. It's more helpful to push out an article we're 90% happy with than spend days or more worrying about very fine details. I agree with you about length in this case, so I'm going to do a quick check and push the article out so we don't get into "analysis paralysis."
Paul
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:46 PM Steven Snow s40w5s@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have made the changes as far as I could tonight. If you think there needs more polishing I am starting my day early tomorrow so I'll check in on this.
Regards
Steve
On 07/03/19 02:12 PM, Gregory Lee Bartholomew wrote:
I think there might be a small technical issue that you should double-check with the author about. In the "Add a new menu entry to GRUB" section, a sample grub menuentry is provided and the following paragraph states, "Please change the values (UUID, ...". But there is no example UUID or a placeholder for where one should go as was done with <IP>, <Gateway>, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see a little more explanation about what the various commands ("insmod ext2", "--hint='hd0,msdos1'", etc.) are doing and how they might need to be changed to match the reader's environment ("Is your boot partition formatted with a FAT filesystem on a GPT partition table? If so, ..." etc.).
Some sort of troubleshooting section at the end "would be nice" as well. In particular, a short section showing how you might be able to recover from a system that boots into a grub shell. For example, something like:
If your configuration fails and you get a "grub>" shell prompt, you can try to load your backup configuration with the following commands:
grub> ls (hd0), (hd0,gpt1), (hd0,gpt2) grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/ grub2/ initramfs.img vmlinuz grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/grub2 device.map grub.cfg grub.cfg.bak grub> configfile (hd0,gpt1)/grub2/grub.cfg.bak
Again, this is just my personal opinion about how the article could be improved. A countervailing view might be that giving the reader too much information might scare them away.
Anyway, just some ideas, feel free to take it or leave it, gb
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 12:28 -0500, Steven Snow wrote:
Hello Editorial Board,
Could someone take a look at the following to give a once over for things I may have missed? This is regarding the article that was supposed to publish Monday. the post is here https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25356&preview=true&preview_id=25356 , hopefully the preview works for you.
Thank you and regards,
Steve
On 06/03/19 05:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
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Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary
Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49)
- Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30)
- Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33)
- ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49)
- --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01)
- ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40)
- stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16)
- stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34)
- We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54)
- LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34)
- AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19)
- ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57)
- ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
Action Items
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
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- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- ryanlerch
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- stickster
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
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- (none)
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Hi Paul,
I would have published last night but I am still uncertain of my boundaries in this role. I did get some of what GB wanted in there and I think it can go ahead and we can deal with the fallout of questions. I'll keep an eye on it later this afternoon. I have to go out in the real world a bit this day to work on machinery. The article length is a concern and it is due to the subject matter. It probably should have been two articles, one on grub2 and one on the (various) methods for achieving the goal of booting into a fedora install via grub. Just my opinion there. I was worrying over the "analysis paralysis" too.
Steve
On 08/03/19 08:14 AM, Paul Frields wrote:
Thanks Steven. This article was intended to go out today (Friday) and usually we publish at 0800 UTC (3am US/Eastern). Don't worry, it's not a disaster or anything, just a note for schedule awareness. It's more helpful to push out an article we're 90% happy with than spend days or more worrying about very fine details. I agree with you about length in this case, so I'm going to do a quick check and push the article out so we don't get into "analysis paralysis."
Paul
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:46 PM Steven Snow s40w5s@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have made the changes as far as I could tonight. If you think there needs more polishing I am starting my day early tomorrow so I'll check in on this.
Regards
Steve
On 07/03/19 02:12 PM, Gregory Lee Bartholomew wrote:
I think there might be a small technical issue that you should double-check with the author about. In the "Add a new menu entry to GRUB" section, a sample grub menuentry is provided and the following paragraph states, "Please change the values (UUID, ...". But there is no example UUID or a placeholder for where one should go as was done with <IP>, <Gateway>, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see a little more explanation about what the various commands ("insmod ext2", "--hint='hd0,msdos1'", etc.) are doing and how they might need to be changed to match the reader's environment ("Is your boot partition formatted with a FAT filesystem on a GPT partition table? If so, ..." etc.).
Some sort of troubleshooting section at the end "would be nice" as well. In particular, a short section showing how you might be able to recover from a system that boots into a grub shell. For example, something like:
If your configuration fails and you get a "grub>" shell prompt, you can try to load your backup configuration with the following commands:
grub> ls (hd0), (hd0,gpt1), (hd0,gpt2) grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/ grub2/ initramfs.img vmlinuz grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/grub2 device.map grub.cfg grub.cfg.bak grub> configfile (hd0,gpt1)/grub2/grub.cfg.bak
Again, this is just my personal opinion about how the article could be improved. A countervailing view might be that giving the reader too much information might scare them away.
Anyway, just some ideas, feel free to take it or leave it, gb
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 12:28 -0500, Steven Snow wrote:
Hello Editorial Board,
Could someone take a look at the following to give a once over for things I may have missed? This is regarding the article that was supposed to publish Monday. the post is here https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25356&preview=true&preview_id=25356 , hopefully the preview works for you.
Thank you and regards,
Steve
On 06/03/19 05:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
=========================================
#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary
Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49)
- Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30)
- Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33)
- ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49)
- --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01)
- ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40)
- stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16)
- stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34)
- We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54)
- LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34)
- AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19)
- ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57)
- ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
Action Items
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
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- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
- gregbartholomew
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- jakfrost
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- ryanlerch
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- stickster
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- **UNASSIGNED**
- (none)
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You did a great job, Steven! Nothing to worry about. The article is out now. We all keep an eye on comments over the course of the day, so don't feel like you need to be glued to a screen. Thank you, Greg, and Alessio for the content.
Paul
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 8:23 AM Steven Snow s40w5s@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Paul,
I would have published last night but I am still uncertain of my boundaries in this role. I did get some of what GB wanted in there and I think it can go ahead and we can deal with the fallout of questions. I'll keep an eye on it later this afternoon. I have to go out in the real world a bit this day to work on machinery. The article length is a concern and it is due to the subject matter. It probably should have been two articles, one on grub2 and one on the (various) methods for achieving the goal of booting into a fedora install via grub. Just my opinion there. I was worrying over the "analysis paralysis" too.
Steve
On 08/03/19 08:14 AM, Paul Frields wrote:
Thanks Steven. This article was intended to go out today (Friday) and usually we publish at 0800 UTC (3am US/Eastern). Don't worry, it's not a disaster or anything, just a note for schedule awareness. It's more helpful to push out an article we're 90% happy with than spend days or more worrying about very fine details. I agree with you about length in this case, so I'm going to do a quick check and push the article out so we don't get into "analysis paralysis."
Paul
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:46 PM Steven Snow s40w5s@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have made the changes as far as I could tonight. If you think there needs more polishing I am starting my day early tomorrow so I'll check in on this.
Regards
Steve
On 07/03/19 02:12 PM, Gregory Lee Bartholomew wrote:
I think there might be a small technical issue that you should double-check with the author about. In the "Add a new menu entry to GRUB" section, a sample grub menuentry is provided and the following paragraph states, "Please change the values (UUID, ...". But there is no example UUID or a placeholder for where one should go as was done with <IP>, <Gateway>, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see a little more explanation about what the various commands ("insmod ext2", "--hint='hd0,msdos1'", etc.) are doing and how they might need to be changed to match the reader's environment ("Is your boot partition formatted with a FAT filesystem on a GPT partition table? If so, ..." etc.).
Some sort of troubleshooting section at the end "would be nice" as well. In particular, a short section showing how you might be able to recover from a system that boots into a grub shell. For example, something like:
If your configuration fails and you get a "grub>" shell prompt, you can try to load your backup configuration with the following commands:
grub> ls (hd0), (hd0,gpt1), (hd0,gpt2) grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/ grub2/ initramfs.img vmlinuz grub> ls (hd0,gpt1)/grub2 device.map grub.cfg grub.cfg.bak grub> configfile (hd0,gpt1)/grub2/grub.cfg.bak
Again, this is just my personal opinion about how the article could be improved. A countervailing view might be that giving the reader too much information might scare them away.
Anyway, just some ideas, feel free to take it or leave it, gb
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 12:28 -0500, Steven Snow wrote:
Hello Editorial Board,
Could someone take a look at the following to give a once over for things I may have missed? This is regarding the article that was supposed to publish Monday. the post is here https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25356&preview=true&preview_id=25356 , hopefully the preview works for you.
Thank you and regards,
Steve
On 06/03/19 05:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03...
=========================================
#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-03-06/magazine.2019-03... .
Meeting summary
Roll call (stickster, 21:00:14)
Last week's stats (stickster, 21:04:49)
- Week of February 25: 67.4K pageviews, slighly up from week before and moderate performance overall (stickster, 21:05:30)
- Month of February 2019: 272.6K pageviews, very slightly up YoY (only about 1K or 0.4%) (stickster, 21:06:33)
- ACTION: jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday (stickster, 21:14:43)
Drafts to review (stickster, 21:15:43)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type... (stickster, 21:15:49)
- --- C# part 2 --- (stickster, 21:15:56)
- LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=25106&preview=true (stickster, 21:16:01)
- ACTION: stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content (stickster, 21:26:40)
- stickster just figured out the problem with the images -- you need to specify in the right-side settings that the image links --> media file so the full size comes up when someone clicks the thumbnail in the article (stickster, 21:37:16)
- stickster fixed the problems in the JDK article (stickster, 21:37:32)
Publishing schedule (stickster, 21:45:34)
- We're running dry, need ideas + writers to do them! (stickster, 21:45:54)
- LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... (cverna, 21:49:34)
- AGREED: Fri Mar 8, install from GRUB (jakfrost) -- Mon Mar 11, discussion.fp.o (ryanlerch) -- Wed Mar 13, libravatar (cverna) -- Fri Mar 15, TBA (stickster) (stickster, 21:56:11)
All other business / Open floor (stickster, 21:56:19)
- ACTION: ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication (stickster, 21:57:57)
- ACTION: cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication (stickster, 21:58:08)
Meeting ended at 21:59:17 UTC.
Action Items
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
Action Items, by person
- cverna
- cverna do libravatar article for Wednesday publication
- gregbartholomew
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- jakfrost
- jakfrost do final copy edit on GRUB article with gregbartholomew and schedule for Friday
- ryanlerch
- ryanlerch do discussion.fp.o article for Monday publication
- stickster
- stickster see if C# author will beef up with more actionable content
- **UNASSIGNED**
- (none)
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- stickster (104)
- cverna (32)
- jakfrost (32)
- ryanlerch (18)
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- zodbot (11)
- gregbartholomew (0)
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