Pitch approved

[Paul W. Frields]

Hi yulytas,

The Magazine editors approved your idea for an article on LaTeX and
Octave.  Are you still interested in writing this?  If so, make sure
you have followed these steps:

https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/

(You can consider the "pitch" step done.)

[Julita Inca Chiroque]

Hey Paul!

Thanks for your kind response!!!
This is my a post I wrote
In case I need to do it better, please do not hesitate to tell me :)
Happy to meet you!

Julita
https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/08/29/preparing-a-syllabus-with-latex-on-...

[Julita Inca]

Hello Magazine list

I wrote a draft of the article you have approved related to Octave:

https://lleksah.wordpress.com/?p=5954&preview=true

It is not public yet, in order to correct it in case you suggest it.

Thanks,
Julita

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Paul W. Frields 
wrote:
> Hi yulytas,
>
> The Magazine editors approved your idea for an article on LaTeX and
> Octave.  Are you still interested in writing this?  If so, make sure
> you have followed these steps:
>
> https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/
>
> (You can consider the "pitch" step done.)
>
> --
> Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
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[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:37:32PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> Hello Magazine list
>
> I wrote a draft of the article you have approved related to Octave:
>
> https://lleksah.wordpress.com/?p=5954&preview=true
>
> It is not public yet, in order to correct it in case you suggest it.

I wasn't able to view this article.  Are you able to follow the steps
in the link I sent, to copy the text into the Magazine?

https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/

[Julita Inca]

Hello Paul and Magazine people

I am attaching the draft as the magazine indicates.
Since it is not possible to attach images I am also linking a visible post:
https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/working-with-octave-on-fedora-26/

Hope it will be OK this time.
Best,
Julita

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Paul W. Frields 
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:37:32PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > Hello Magazine list
> >
> > I wrote a draft of the article you have approved related to Octave:
> >
> > https://lleksah.wordpress.com/?p=5954&preview=true
> >
> > It is not public yet, in order to correct it in case you suggest it.
>
> I wasn't able to view this article.  Are you able to follow the steps
> in the link I sent, to copy the text into the Magazine?
>
> https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/
>
> --
> Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
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[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 09:28:44PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> Hello Paul and Magazine people
>
> I am attaching the draft as the magazine indicates.
> Since it is not possible to attach images I am also linking a visible post:
> https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/working-with-octave-on-fedora-26/
>
> Hope it will be OK this time.

This article looks very interesting! Thank you for contributing it.

You can put images in a post -- use the "Add Media" button above the
editor to insert a graphic.

I just realized we don't have good tips to tell writers how to do
that, so I'm going to provide some here, and put them on our Magazine
page of tips for writers.

* Use a default Fedora environment for screenshots.  The background,
  styles, fonts, theming, color schemes, and prompts should be
  unmodified.  This goes for terminals as well as graphical apps.  An
  easy way to do this is make a fresh user account.

* If needed, alter the display resolution so it's no higher than
  1280x800 (or 2560x1600 if a HiDPI type display).  This ensures
  screenshots are legible even in thumbnails.  Use the Display
  settings panel in the GUI to do this if needed.

* If the input/output is all text-based, copy/paste from a terminal
  and use the "Preformatted" style, rather than using a screenshot.

Hope this helps.  Let us know -- here or in IRC #fedora-magazine -- if
you get stuck or need any other assistance.

[Julita Inca]

Hello Fedora Magazine

I've finished the article of Octave with figures included:

<goog_885110000>
https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18758&preview=true&preview_id=18758

I also did another post related an event I organized in Lima, Peru for the
FWD:

https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18802&preview=true&preview_id=18802&am...

In case they need to be improved, just let me know.

Thanks in advanced,
Julita Inca

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Paul W. Frields 
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 09:28:44PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > Hello Paul and Magazine people
> >
> > I am attaching the draft as the magazine indicates.
> > Since it is not possible to attach images I am also linking a visible
>
> post:
> > https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/working-with-
>
> octave-on-fedora-26/
> > Hope it will be OK this time.
>
> This article looks very interesting! Thank you for contributing it.
>
> You can put images in a post -- use the "Add Media" button above the
> editor to insert a graphic.
>
> I just realized we don't have good tips to tell writers how to do
> that, so I'm going to provide some here, and put them on our Magazine
> page of tips for writers.
>
> Use a default Fedora environment for screenshots.  The background,
> styles, fonts, theming, color schemes, and prompts should be
> unmodified.  This goes for terminals as well as graphical apps.  An
> easy way to do this is make a fresh user account.
>
> If needed, alter the display resolution so it's no higher than
> 1280x800 (or 2560x1600 if a HiDPI type display).  This ensures
> screenshots are legible even in thumbnails.  Use the Display
> settings panel in the GUI to do this if needed.
>
> If the input/output is all text-based, copy/paste from a terminal
> and use the "Preformatted" style, rather than using a screenshot.
>
> Hope this helps.  Let us know -- here or in IRC #fedora-magazine -- if
> you get stuck or need any other assistance.
>
> --
> Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
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[Julita Inca]

Hi, could you please tell me what else is needed to be published?

--
Julita

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Julita Inca  wrote:
> Hello Fedora Magazine
>
> I've finished the article of Octave with figures included:
>
> http://goog_885110000
> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18758&preview=true&preview_id=18758
>
> I also did another post related an event I organized in Lima, Peru for the
> FWD:
>
> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18802&preview=true&preview_id=
> 18802&preview_nonce=f4033720bf&post_format=standard&_thumbnail_id=-1
>
> In case they need to be improved, just let me know.
>
> Thanks in advanced,
> Julita Inca
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Paul W. Frields 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 09:28:44PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > > Hello Paul and Magazine people
> > >
> > > I am attaching the draft as the magazine indicates.
> > > Since it is not possible to attach images I am also linking a visible
> >
> > post:
> > > https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/working-with-octave
> >
> > -on-fedora-26/
> > > Hope it will be OK this time.
> >
> > This article looks very interesting! Thank you for contributing it.
> >
> > You can put images in a post -- use the "Add Media" button above the
> > editor to insert a graphic.
> >
> > I just realized we don't have good tips to tell writers how to do
> > that, so I'm going to provide some here, and put them on our Magazine
> > page of tips for writers.
> >
> > Use a default Fedora environment for screenshots.  The background,
> > styles, fonts, theming, color schemes, and prompts should be
> > unmodified.  This goes for terminals as well as graphical apps.  An
> > easy way to do this is make a fresh user account.
> >
> > If needed, alter the display resolution so it's no higher than
> > 1280x800 (or 2560x1600 if a HiDPI type display).  This ensures
> > screenshots are legible even in thumbnails.  Use the Display
> > settings panel in the GUI to do this if needed.
> >
> > If the input/output is all text-based, copy/paste from a terminal
> > and use the "Preformatted" style, rather than using a screenshot.
> >
> > Hope this helps.  Let us know -- here or in IRC #fedora-magazine -- if
> > you get stuck or need any other assistance.
> >
> > --
> > Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
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> >   http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
> >     The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com
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[Paul W. Frields]

The article requires editing for grammar/style/flow.  This will be
assigned to an editor and we'll complete the rest of the steps for
you.  I was mentioning this in our IRC channel earlier, and I think
we'll likely publish this on Friday or next Monday at latest.

Paul

On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:56:47PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> Hi, could you please tell me what else is needed to be published?
>
> --
> Julita
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Julita Inca  wrote:
> > Hello Fedora Magazine
> >
> > I've finished the article of Octave with figures included:
> >
> > http://goog_885110000
> > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18758&preview=true&preview_id=18758
> >
> > I also did another post related an event I organized in Lima, Peru for the
> > FWD:
> >
> > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18802&preview=true&preview_id=
> > 18802&preview_nonce=f4033720bf&post_format=standard&_thumbnail_id=-1
> >
> > In case they need to be improved, just let me know.
> >
> > Thanks in advanced,
> > Julita Inca
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Paul W. Frields 
> > wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 09:28:44PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > > > Hello Paul and Magazine people
> > > >
> > > > I am attaching the draft as the magazine indicates.
> > > > Since it is not possible to attach images I am also linking a visible
> > >
> > > post:
> > > > https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/working-with-octave
> > >
> > > -on-fedora-26/
> > > > Hope it will be OK this time.
> > >
> > > This article looks very interesting! Thank you for contributing it.
> > >
> > > You can put images in a post -- use the "Add Media" button above the
> > > editor to insert a graphic.
> > >
> > > I just realized we don't have good tips to tell writers how to do
> > > that, so I'm going to provide some here, and put them on our Magazine
> > > page of tips for writers.
> > >
> > > Use a default Fedora environment for screenshots.  The background,
> > > styles, fonts, theming, color schemes, and prompts should be
> > > unmodified.  This goes for terminals as well as graphical apps.  An
> > > easy way to do this is make a fresh user account.
> > >
> > > If needed, alter the display resolution so it's no higher than
> > > 1280x800 (or 2560x1600 if a HiDPI type display).  This ensures
> > > screenshots are legible even in thumbnails.  Use the Display
> > > settings panel in the GUI to do this if needed.
> > >
> > > If the input/output is all text-based, copy/paste from a terminal
> > > and use the "Preformatted" style, rather than using a screenshot.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.  Let us know -- here or in IRC #fedora-magazine -- if
> > > you get stuck or need any other assistance.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
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> > >   http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
> > >     The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Fedora Magazine mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
>
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[Julita Inca]

Thank you Paul for your answer.
In the university with the IRC port because it is closed.
Next time I will try to be on IRC for the next meeting since I know they
are on Wednesday
I am also rewrite the Latex article with the suggestion you previously
given me.

Best,
Julita

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> The article requires editing for grammar/style/flow.  This will be
> assigned to an editor and we'll complete the rest of the steps for
> you.  I was mentioning this in our IRC channel earlier, and I think
> we'll likely publish this on Friday or next Monday at latest.
>
> Paul
>
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:56:47PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > Hi, could you please tell me what else is needed to be published?
> >
> > --
> > Julita
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Julita Inca  wrote:
> > > Hello Fedora Magazine
> > >
> > > I've finished the article of Octave with figures included:
> > >
> > > http://goog_885110000
> > > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18758&preview=true&preview_id=18758
> > >
> > > I also did another post related an event I organized in Lima, Peru for
>
> the
> > > FWD:
> > >
> > > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=18802&preview=true&preview_id=
> > > 18802&preview_nonce=f4033720bf&post_format=standard&_thumbnail_id=-1
> > >
> > > In case they need to be improved, just let me know.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advanced,
> > > Julita Inca
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Paul W. Frields <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 09:28:44PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > > > > Hello Paul and Magazine people
> > > > >
> > > > > I am attaching the draft as the magazine indicates.
> > > > > Since it is not possible to attach images I am also linking a
>
> visible
> > > > post:
> > > > > https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/working-with-octave
> > > >
> > > > -on-fedora-26/
> > > > > Hope it will be OK this time.
> > > >
> > > > This article looks very interesting! Thank you for contributing it.
> > > >
> > > > You can put images in a post -- use the "Add Media" button above the
> > > > editor to insert a graphic.
> > > >
> > > > I just realized we don't have good tips to tell writers how to do
> > > > that, so I'm going to provide some here, and put them on our Magazine
> > > > page of tips for writers.
> > > >
> > > > Use a default Fedora environment for screenshots.  The background,
> > > > styles, fonts, theming, color schemes, and prompts should be
> > > > unmodified.  This goes for terminals as well as graphical apps.  An
> > > > easy way to do this is make a fresh user account.
> > > >
> > > > If needed, alter the display resolution so it's no higher than
> > > > 1280x800 (or 2560x1600 if a HiDPI type display).  This ensures
> > > > screenshots are legible even in thumbnails.  Use the Display
> > > > settings panel in the GUI to do this if needed.
> > > >
> > > > If the input/output is all text-based, copy/paste from a terminal
> > > > and use the "Preformatted" style, rather than using a screenshot.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.  Let us know -- here or in IRC #fedora-magazine -- if
> > > > you get stuck or need any other assistance.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Paul W. Frields
>
> http://paul.frields.org/
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> > > >   http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
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>
> fedoraproject.org
> > > >
> >
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[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 06:45:49PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> Thank you Paul for your answer.
> In the university with the IRC port because it is closed.
> Next time I will try to be on IRC for the next meeting since I know they
> are on Wednesday
> I am also rewrite the Latex article with the suggestion you previously
> given me.

Hi Julita, maybe some other list members have ideas on how you could
circumvent issues with IRC ports.  I have a feeling that something
like Matrix/Riot or even using the webchat.freenode.net interface
might help in this case, if you want to get in the channel for some
reason.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:56:47PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> Hi, could you please tell me what else is needed to be published?

Hi Julita,

I installed Octave on a F26 system and opened a fresh user account to
test the steps in your article.  When I do, I get a completely black
plot window.  I've tested this in a brand new F26 VM guest install as
well, same results.

It turns out this is a known problem with Octave on Wayland systems:
https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?51442

My only guess is that you are either:

(1) running an Xorg session instead of Wayland, or
(2) you set up graphics_toolkit() beforehand or in a startup file

I'll adapt the instructions to advise using graphics_toolkit("fltk")
which seems to work best and with no spew to the console.

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:49:10PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:56:47PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > Hi, could you please tell me what else is needed to be published?
>
> Hi Julita,
>
> I installed Octave on a F26 system and opened a fresh user account to
> test the steps in your article.  When I do, I get a completely black
> plot window.  I've tested this in a brand new F26 VM guest install as
> well, same results.
>
> It turns out this is a known problem with Octave on Wayland systems:
> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?51442
>
> My only guess is that you are either:
>
> (1) running an Xorg session instead of Wayland, or
> (2) you set up graphics_toolkit() beforehand or in a startup file
>
> I'll adapt the instructions to advise using graphics_toolkit("fltk")
> which seems to work best and with no spew to the console.

Except... this makes all the screenshots inaccurate.  And I found out
that the "fltk" toolkit is just ugly.  Using "gnuplot" is beter.

Do you have time to redo the screenshots using the gnuplot toolkit?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 06:03:16PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:49:10PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:56:47PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > > Hi, could you please tell me what else is needed to be published?
> >
> > Hi Julita,
> >
> > I installed Octave on a F26 system and opened a fresh user account to
> > test the steps in your article.  When I do, I get a completely black
> > plot window.  I've tested this in a brand new F26 VM guest install as
> > well, same results.
> >
> > It turns out this is a known problem with Octave on Wayland systems:
> > https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?51442
> >
> > My only guess is that you are either:
> >
> > (1) running an Xorg session instead of Wayland, or
> > (2) you set up graphics_toolkit() beforehand or in a startup file
> >
> > I'll adapt the instructions to advise using graphics_toolkit("fltk")
> > which seems to work best and with no spew to the console.
>
> Except... this makes all the screenshots inaccurate.  And I found out
> that the "fltk" toolkit is just ugly.  Using "gnuplot" is beter.
>
> Do you have time to redo the screenshots using the gnuplot toolkit?

I think I managed to provide a notice in the article that explains why
your screenshots are different.  Also, Wayland seems to be finicky
with Octave (this is an Octave bug) so this might be the safe way to
go.

Note to all prospective writers: Please try to use a standard install
when writing/testing your articles.  You should be careful not to set
readers up for disappointment or other unexpected results.

[Julita Inca]

I did work some scientific articles tough
Sharing those things who people doubt in using Linux with Fedora in confer
ences worked for me.
It is shame that it did not work to you.

Julita

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 06:03:16PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:49:10PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:56:47PM -0500, Julita Inca wrote:
> > > > Hi, could you please tell me what else is needed to be published?
> > >
> > > Hi Julita,
> > >
> > > I installed Octave on a F26 system and opened a fresh user account to
> > > test the steps in your article.  When I do, I get a completely black
> > > plot window.  I've tested this in a brand new F26 VM guest install as
> > > well, same results.
> > >
> > > It turns out this is a known problem with Octave on Wayland systems:
> > > https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?51442
> > >
> > > My only guess is that you are either:
> > >
> > > (1) running an Xorg session instead of Wayland, or
> > > (2) you set up graphics_toolkit() beforehand or in a startup file
> > >
> > > I'll adapt the instructions to advise using graphics_toolkit("fltk")
> > > which seems to work best and with no spew to the console.
> >
> > Except... this makes all the screenshots inaccurate.  And I found out
> > that the "fltk" toolkit is just ugly.  Using "gnuplot" is beter.
> >
> > Do you have time to redo the screenshots using the gnuplot toolkit?
>
> I think I managed to provide a notice in the article that explains why
> your screenshots are different.  Also, Wayland seems to be finicky
> with Octave (this is an Octave bug) so this might be the safe way to
> go.
>
> Note to all prospective writers: Please try to use a standard install
> when writing/testing your articles.  You should be careful not to set
> readers up for disappointment or other unexpected results.
>
> --
> Paul W. Frields                                http://paul.frields.org/
>   gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233  5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717
>   http://redhat.com/   -  -  -  -   http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/
>     The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com