Build your own cloud with Fedora 30 and nextcloud

[Ben Cotton]

Hi Story Teller,

We were looking at your article "Build your own cloud with Fedora 30
and nextcloud". Since Fedora 31 is out, it might be better to use that
as the reference version. Can you please make any updates needed for
F31 or let us know if it needs to stay on Fedora 30?

https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=29554


Thanks,
BC

-- 
Ben Cotton
He / Him / His
Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat
TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

[Ben Cotton]

(This time with a hopefully-functional email)

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 8:27 AM Ben Cotton <bcotton(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi Story Teller,
>
>  We were looking at your article "Build your own cloud with Fedora 30
>  and nextcloud". Since Fedora 31 is out, it might be better to use that
>  as the reference version. Can you please make any updates needed for
>  F31 or let us know if it needs to stay on Fedora 30?
>
>  https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=29554
>
>
>  Thanks,
>  BC
>
>  --
>  Ben Cotton
>  He / Him / His
>  Fedora Program Manager
>  Red Hat
>  TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis 


-- 
Ben Cotton
He / Him / His
Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat
TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

[Paul Frields]

Also might be a good idea for storyteller to log in to Taiga here:
https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban

Use the link at top right -- then use OpenID Connect on the login page
where you can provide your Fedora account username and password. Let us
know you got in, and we can assign this story card to you.

Paul

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 8:29 AM Ben Cotton <bcotton(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  (This time with a hopefully-functional email)
>
>  On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 8:27 AM Ben Cotton <bcotton(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi Story Teller,
>  >
>  > We were looking at your article "Build your own cloud with Fedora 30
>  > and nextcloud". Since Fedora 31 is out, it might be better to use that
>  > as the reference version. Can you please make any updates needed for
>  > F31 or let us know if it needs to stay on Fedora 30?
>  >
>  > https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=29554
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > BC
>  >
>  > --
>  > Ben Cotton
>  > He / Him / His
>  > Fedora Program Manager
>  > Red Hat
>  > TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>
>
>
>  --
>  Ben Cotton
>  He / Him / His
>  Fedora Program Manager
>  Red Hat
>  TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis
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[Miro Hrončok]

On 06. 11. 19 14:27, Ben Cotton wrote:
>  Hi Story Teller,
>  
>  We were looking at your article "Build your own cloud with Fedora 30
>  and nextcloud". Since Fedora 31 is out, it might be better to use that
>  as the reference version. Can you please make any updates needed for
>  F31 or let us know if it needs to stay on Fedora 30?
>  
>  https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=29554 
As a side note:

I cannot see that preview, but note that nextcloud is orphaned in Fedora and the 
latest packaged version is 10.x (from 2016), while upstream is at 17.x.

It is full of CVEs: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/nextcloud/bugs/all

If no new maintainer is found, it will be retired in ~6 weeks.

Does this article suggest to dnf install nextcloud from the Fedora repos?

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Miro Hrončok
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[Paul Frields]

That's exactly what it says. I don't think we want to direct users to use
an ancient version or something that's soon to be retired. Perhaps the
article should be updated to use an upstream provided package, or another
alternative?

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019, 4:00 AM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 06. 11. 19 14:27, Ben Cotton wrote:
>  > Hi Story Teller,
>  >
>  > We were looking at your article "Build your own cloud with Fedora 30
>  > and nextcloud". Since Fedora 31 is out, it might be better to use that
>  > as the reference version. Can you please make any updates needed for
>  > F31 or let us know if it needs to stay on Fedora 30?
>  >
>  > https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=29554
>
>  As a side note:
>
>  I cannot see that preview, but note that nextcloud is orphaned in Fedora
>  and the
>  latest packaged version is 10.x (from 2016), while upstream is at 17.x.
>
>  It is full of CVEs:
>  https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/nextcloud/bugs/all
>
>  If no new maintainer is found, it will be retired in ~6 weeks.
>
>  Does this article suggest to dnf install nextcloud from the Fedora repos?
>
>  --
>  Miro Hrončok
>  --
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>  IRC: mhroncok
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[Miro Hrončok]

On 07. 11. 19 13:33, Paul Frields wrote:
>  That's exactly what it says. I don't think we want to direct
> users to use
>  an ancient version or something that's soon to be retired. 
And known to be insecure. I don't think we should do that.

>  Perhaps the
>  article should be updated to use an upstream provided package, or another
>  alternative? 
I don't want to discuss whether recommending that is a good marketing for 
Fedora, but we definitively need to switch the recommended installation method, 
or postpone the article until a new maintainer is found (and only change the 
method if there is none).

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Miro Hrončok
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[Ben Cotton]

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:38 AM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  I don't want to discuss whether recommending that is a good marketing for
>  Fedora, but we definitively need to switch the recommended installation method,
>  or postpone the article until a new maintainer is found (and only change the
>  method if there is none).
>  
Agreed. I'd prefer to wait until such time as it has a maintainer and
is up-to-date. Skimming the install docs[1], it looks like manual
installs (except with a snap) are probably more than we'd want in a
magazine article.

Good catch, Miro!

[1]
https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/17/admin_manual/installation/source_ins...

-- 
Ben Cotton
He / Him / His
Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat
TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis