"CMC" moniker
by Joshua Wulf
As discussed in today's meeting we're continuing the discussion of what
the Fedora "Community Marketing Contacts" should be called here on the
mailing list.
Here are my thoughts on the matter:
I believe... that "CMC" must go (bad marketingspeak bad!). As mentioned
by gdk in an earlier post, Fedora is many things. It's a distro, and
it's a project. We're all about community - distro and project - not
simply a finished "product". We're not marketing a product, which
implies a monologue - we're building a community: we need a conversation.
I see the role of a "CMC" as three fold:
1. Inquire (hear first, if you wish to be heard - conduit of information
from the peeps to the project - "We hear ya!")
2. Inform (conduit of information from inside the project to the
outside: community and wider public)
3. Invite (It's all about participation - Our Motto: "We Make it Easy!")
I liked Colin's way of testing potential titles:
"yada yada yada..." says <insert name>, <insert title> of the Fedora
Project.
...says XYZ, spokesperson for the Fedora Project
...says XYZ, ambassador of the Fedora Project / Fedora Foundation (i
like that one, it's like something from Trek)
Suggestions so far (from today's meeting):
Ambassador
Spokesperson
Advocate
Evangelist
Local Fedora Contact
Community Representative
/me +1 Ambassador
--josh
18 years, 6 months
Re: fedoraproject wiki has problem with Japanese browser
by Hrishikesh Ballal
>> Hello Karsten,
>> I helped with the moinmoin implementation of Diana's design and the
>> redesign of the fedoraproject.org webstie. I can help out with some of
>> the problems with the wiki. I have a bugzilla account.
> I can add you to be automatically Cc:'d on website bugs, if you wish?
> It would increase our coverage. If you and others want to work out a
> system of ownership, QA, and peer review, that would be great.
> Should I use hballal gmail com?
Yup That should be fine.
Hrishi
18 years, 6 months
Re: Re: Single CD Fedora distro
by Luya Tshimbalanga
You hit the nail about functionality. One of major problem
with many current Live CDs is the lack of other language
versions other than English.
Pratically, Kadischi project is the way to go because
anyone can customize their live CD depending
the area users live.
I too think it is better to keep 4 CDs/1DVD for Fedora
(progressively removing some duplicated packages) and adding
the ability for user to create their own live-cd.
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:23:23 +0900
> From: Yoshihiro Totaka <romttrom(a)ybb.ne.jp>
> Subject: Re: Single CD Fedora distro
> To: Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base
> <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4357701B.7040907(a)ybb.ne.jp>
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>
> Joshua Wulf wrote:
> > Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> >
> >> That's exactly what I'd like to do.
> >>
> >> However, there's two types of CD -- Live CD and Single Install CD. I'm
> >> happy to solicit the completion of KDE and Gnome Live CDs for Fedora --
> >> but the Single Install CD is another matter. The more I investigate, the
> >> more it appears as though we've painted ourselves into a corner
> >> with firstboot; basically, FC4 is *just too big* (allegedly) to
> >> install happily from one CD. I'm still trying to get a good
> >> answer as to why this is.
> >>
> >> --g
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I'll look into it too. If first boot is too big for a single
> > install CD, then firstboot has to go, because the Holy Grail of
> > the single install CD must be attained....
> >
> > I'm speculating here because I'm not yet up on the live CD
> > status, but would a single install disk, while worthy in it's own
> > right, be a significant launching pad to a live CD?
> >
>
> Hi, I don't have anything against single install CD, but please keep
> bloated version of fedora alive. Ubuntu is great distribution, but their
> install CD is size-constrained rather than current Fedora's
> functionality-dupilication-constrained, so anything developer thinks
> doesn't feel worthy is not included in install CD. This unfortunately
> result in lack of internationalization and lack of Japanese language
> input. Group of Japanese is creating unofficial version of ubuntu to
> serve the needs. However as a result of this, developers are now
> fragmented and there seems to be no improvement in Japanese support in
> ubuntu in foreseeable future.
>
> If fedora is anything but platform for developers and participation,
> please take functionality-oriented install CD way. It really doesn't
> make sense for me, if some functionality is removed from install CD,
> just because it exceeds 640MB.
>
> If fedora is ever going to create single install CD, please take Konppix
> way, (i.e., 1CD install disk for English speaking audience only and 1DVD
> or 4CDs for standard version) not ubuntu way.
>
> In the end, I feel like I have something against single install CD. haha.
>
> Regards,
> Yoshihiro Totaka
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REMINDER: Marketing Meeting
by Colin Charles
THURSDAY OCTOBER 20, 18:00 UTC
FRIDAY OCTOBER 21, 04:00 Melbourne (UTC+10)
At #fedora-mktg on irc.freenode.net
We have a long agenda (look at the beautiful schedule - visit the wiki)
and also there's the importance for the possible LCA MiniConf (and the
various FUDCons)
Be there, or be []
--
Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/
18 years, 6 months
Single CD Fedora distro
by Joshua Wulf
Why not two live CD distributions - a kde one and a gnome one? We could
do first one, then the other, rather than waiting a million years for
them both.
I just downloaded Ubuntu and installed it, and it was a 600-odd MB
single CD. R0ck!
--josh
18 years, 6 months
Re: fedoraproject wiki has problem with Japanese browser
by Hrishikesh Ballal
Hello Karsten,
I helped with the moinmoin implementation of Diana's design and the
redesign of the fedoraproject.org webstie. I can help out with some of
the problems with the wiki. I have a bugzilla account.
Hrishi
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:56:03 -0700
> From: Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: fedoraproject wiki has problem with Japanese browser
> To: Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base
> <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1129622163.18168.161.camel(a)erato.phig.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 14:52 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> > On 10/15/05, Patrick Barnes <nman64(a)n-man.com> wrote:
> > > This is a known problem for browsers set to many languages. MoinMoin,
> > > the wiki software that powers fedoraproject.org's wiki, attempts to
> > > translate 'FrontPage' for browsers set to languages other than English.
> > > It isn't a bug, just part of the configuration of MoinMoin. Work is
> > > already underway to remedy this.
> >
> > Deeper question...
> > Problems with the wiki, both in terms of content and how it
> > operates... should be reported where?
>
> There is now[1] a component in bugzilla:
>
> Fedora Documentation > fedora-websites
>
> All bugs for all formal Fedora websites should use this component.
>
> For now, I volunteered Patrick as the initial assigned person ;-D, and
> put myself in as QA. Does this make sense? Patrick, objections?
>
> Does anyone want to be on the initial Cc: list for this component? Or
> is there a mailing list or another mechanism that should receive this
> bug stream?
>
> - Karsten
>
> [1] (or will be when some cron script runs?)
>
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18 years, 6 months
Fedora web team
by Elliot Lee
Hey all,
It seems like there are at least a few people who are interested in
reworking the Fedora web site. I think it would be good to have more
coordination on our efforts. So, please visit:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora/Web
and let's all get together and figure things out.
This may just be my way of catching up with everyone else who is already
working nicely together - please bring me up to speed. :)
Best,
-- Elliot
18 years, 6 months
Meeting Subject, f.r.c and fp.o
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen
Hello Marketing Team,
I am sorry to report that I have yet to make any progress on the cleanup
of fedora.redhat.com. Family Life, in this case deaths, have taken a
large amount of time from my days, we had three deaths in my family last
month so I have been trying to catch up on my normal work as of late. I
hope by next week I will have some real progress to report.
Robert 'Bob' Jensen
18 years, 6 months
re: Single CD Fedora distro
by Luya Tshimbalanga
> I just downloaded Ubuntu and installed it, and it was a 600-odd MB single CD. R0ck!
The downside with Ubuntu is the lack of customization for the installer i.e there is
no way to select package you want to install.
I agrre about shrinking the size of MBs for Fedora and reconfigure the way to
organize the packages in iso format.
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