marketing July 2005

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marketing meeting
by Marc Wiriadisastra 14 Jul '05

14 Jul '05

Where does this marketing meeting take place. I'm an onlooker with ideas although very minimal talents :( However I'm in Australia I'm just curious as to how to contribute and also whether there will be a 'report' type thing put somewhere for other people to read who are interested in contributing. BTW hey all my first mail -- Regards Marc Wiriadisastra

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ANNOUNCEMENT: Marketing meeting
by Colin Charles 14 Jul '05

14 Jul '05

Be there or be square Yes, the times are: THURSDAY JULY 15, 15:00 UTC THURSDAY JULY 14, 11:00 Eastern US THURSDAY JULY 14, 08:00 Western US THURSDAY JULY 15, 17:00 Berlin FRIDAY JULY 15, 01:00 Melbourne (UTC+10) The agenda is from my post on July 1st (pasted here for posterity) Be on irc.freenode.net at #fedora-marketing. This should be expected to last a total of 1 hour. See you there. ==agenda== So for our inagural meeting (to which time we ought to decide for), let's discuss: 1. Our goals (greg has suggested "explain, promote and recruit for individual Fedora projects.") 2. A logo competition - have a panel to decide on (non-)goat-like content 3. Swag/goodies - what do we want, after we've achieved (2) 4. How do we reward contributors - who is a contributor? - what levels do we have... - how do we give away (3) conveniently -- Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/

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notes from LWCE planning meeting 13 July 2005
by Karsten Wade 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Rough, but ready: LWCE planning for August 2005 SF 13 July 2005 Attendees: ========== Jack Greg Jesse Karsten Warren Spot ################# Equipment: ========== Table skirt Jack has to get to RDU Vinyl sign Logo treatment? not much can be done Greg still to talk to Marketing, if need to Jack look for local to SF vinyl sign provider Hand-outs Take to Marketing meeting T-shirts Greg to send DVDs Greg has this PITA Live CD Jack waiting to hear from Elliot/Summer of Code Jesse to make sure hardware includes CD burner Gift cert and one-offs Greg has to do Greg must send handful of travel mugs, Red Hat water for special needs (to booth) PPC Spot to bring his MacMini Pogo system Sounds like system is coming Projector rental in SF? Monitors Jack waiting for POC at AMD Karsten back up CRTs to lug KM Spot bring keyboard/Mouse for Mini AP Warren to bring his Power strips Warren has this one Shipping All covered currently Presentations: ============== Call for papers Spot - building good packages Extras - what it is, why it is (Spot) Webbink? Marketing: ========== Advertising our booth Fedoraproject.org mag Greg ongoing Red Hat Magazine Copy due this Friday, 19 July to go in Free passes Going out this coming Friday Handout Description of project, sub-projects, URLs Jack/Greg, Karsten formatting clean-up BOF 9 Aug. 5:30 - 7 pm (Jack arranged) Loc. Unknown BOF room Show prize entry Jack has Greg to confirm no conflicts with Red Hat entries Presentation coordinator tabled until needed Message for the show Tabled community involvement - extras, documentation Logo type fun follow-up later Staffing (aka Manpower): ======================== Exhibitor badges Jack has covered this Warren added Setup/Tear down 8th - booth available by 11 am, 6 pm finish All - put in your availability schedule How to get reliable manpower Solicit fedora-maintainers Greg - get us the list of RH booth people to solicit Karsten - solicit MTV Schedule - 27th set in stone -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/

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FUDCon in London?
by Alex 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Hello guys, I am organizing the booth for Red Hat at LinuxWorld Expo, and my idea was to piggyback a FUDCon on LWE UK. The event is on October 5-6, and takes place in London, Olympia. LWE UK is also eager to cooperate with us and have promised to look into how much support they can give us--a couple of rooms, PA system, projector, etc. Michael Tiemann will very likely be in town at the same time, so we could benefit from that by asking him to give a keynote. On my side, I promise undivided attention and all support I can give, including lobbying Red Hat into giving us some money for this FUDCon, like they did for the FUDCon II. What do you think? Should we go for it? a -- Get Firefox today! http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/switch.html

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the name "fedora"
by Thilo Pfennig 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Hi, I tend to like the idea to interpret the name "Fedora" primarily as a female name. I think it would be nice if Fedora distinguishes itself from other distros to be somehow pro equal rights. A Linux that is not made for men as primary focus. I think this is important. Anybody has seen the speech of Jeff Waugh (GNOME) at the GUADEC 2005 in Stuttgart? (Theora: http://stream.fluendo.com/archive/6uadec/Jeff_Waugh_-_Project_Topaz.ogg ) He had some good points about righting software for girls... ;-) watch this video its nice. I think what counts for GNOME also kinds for any distribution. Also after the creation of DebianWomen there is also GnomeWomen: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWomen . Thilo -- this content is licensed under a Creative Commons license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/de/

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Collecting information
by Rahul Sundaram 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

Hi Fedora needs a mechanism to collect user and hardware information with a opt-in mechanism. Similar lines of discussions here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-July/msg00042.html What do you think is the best way to do this? regards Rahul

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Fedora Boot for LWCE:SF
by Jesse Keating 07 Jul '05

07 Jul '05

Now that FUDCon2 is over, and we've pretty much decided to not have a FUDCon3 in SF can we put some serious resources into planning the Fedora Booth for LWCE:SF? We've had a couple booths under our belts now, and I think it's time for us to progress beyond the 'tossed together last minute' feel of the booths that I've seen. Not to take away from any great effort that booth people have put in in the past, just having a booth is an amazing amount of work. But with more and more people willing to help out I think we have the opportunity to do a bit more. Having some systems in the booth is good, having them DO SOMETHING is even better. Since we're not going to have any FUDCon talks, I thought doing some mini presentations in the booth using the systems might be a good way to draw some people over and show them what it really is. Personally, I'd love to do a mini talk on kickstart complete with a system being kickstarted. By the same token somebody (or myself) can do a talk in just regular installs because I feel that the installer is one of the best parts of the distribution, and it is unique. Rather than talking about 'and this is how the new openoffice.org looks on OUR distro! See the widgets!?' we can talk about what really sets the distribution aside. In past LWCEs I've been to, the majority of the crowd are 'why would we use your distro' and not 'how can we contribute to your distro', so I think pitching our mini-presentations toward _users_ and if they proceed to ask about contribution, then we can have side discussions about contribution. Maybe we could score a little round table or something so that people that want to talk contribution and project stuff can sit down and take a load off instead of stacking up in front of the booth and blocking the way for people that want to take a look at the shinys. I also think we should have a good diversity of arches represented, an Intel box, an AMD box (dual cores anybody?), I'll have my Apple laptop but maybe a mac mini would be cool for the table. I'd like to do what some other booths have done, have one system (or maybe all systems w/ a switcher) plugged into a projector and the projector projecting on the back wall of the booth or the corner of the booth or something like that so that people bring their eyes up and look ahead instead of stooping to look at table level monitors or whatnot. It could also free table space for systems instead of having a bunch of (heavy) monitors stacked up. Of course, there is the swag aspect too. I assume we'll have t-shirts galore again (do they HAVE to be white?), CDs or DVDs of the distro (maybe we can ping vendors again for vendor branded ones rather than paying to master them ourselves), but what about some higher class items for the people that have a sit down talk about contributing (maybe even an extras contributor account sign up kiosk)? We won't advertise the items so that we don't get freeloaders just faking a talk to get swag, but for those that have a genuine interest we can give them something to thank them for their time? Anywho, these are my thoughts for now, I'm sure I'll have more soon. I'd like to start a wiki page for the booth planning, anybody have a preference where this page goes? -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (http://www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (http://geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating

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Technetra:Review: Fedora Core 4
by Rahul Sundaram 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

Hi http://www.technetra.com/writings/recent/review_fedora_core4_html. This was originally published in Linux for you in India " Every Fedora Core release outshines the previous one, Fedora Core 4 maintains this pattern with an excellent collection of the latest open source packages and improved performance. Two areas that still need some work are out-of-the-box sound mixing and package management. My hope is that future releases of Fedora Core will attract even greater community participation, especially as the Fedora Foundation takes shape." regards Rahul

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reports from FUDCon2?
by Paul Stauffer 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Anyone who attended FUDCon2 care to give us a report on how things went? - Paul -- Paul Stauffer <paulds(a)bu.edu> Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University

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Re: Cool Fedora schwag idea
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 03 Jul '05

03 Jul '05

So here's the meat of the argument: On the one hand, you want to recognize people. Why? * To thank them for their achievements. * To hold them up to the world as exemplary. * To encourage others to follow their example. But on the other hand, such recognition is inherently exclusionary -- because some achieve, and some don't. The letterman's jacket is, I see clearly now, too highly charged for too many people. I liked the idea because of the "geeks inherit the earth" message, all the way down to the letterman jackets, but I see clearly that it's too easily misinterpreted, and as much as I'd like to disagree, I can't. Still, I think that the notion of pins/letters/merit badges/etc. is a good one, and I would argue that it *should* be exclusionary. Either you earned it, or you didn't. So maybe just the pins, awarded for excellence. Wear them on your Fedora ballcap brim, or your T-shirt, or hanging from your pierced left nipple. How does that idea feel to people? A bit less ugly-clique-ish? *** As an aside: to me, this is the real value of this group -- discussing ideas like this. Figuring out "all of the messaging behind Fedora" is a strategic problem that will take time to figure out. But working out tactical questions like "better schwag" and "names for FC5" and "fund-raising activities" is an ideal use of this group's time, IMHO. So thanks for all of your helpful input. Thanks even to Seth for the public ass-whipping. :) --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan

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