I was on the wiki and looking at the RecentChanges page and my mouse
screwed up… the page started "auto-scrolling" down as I hit the left mouse
button key to stop it an by accident it was over the "revert" link on
the Edit Group… I am sorry but it was totally unintentional. How can I
over write my changes? .. can you cancel my changes? I am sorry about
it.. Following are the details of the change…
89 2005-04-20 20:56:12 1480 ColinCharles josh boyer (jwb on irc) added
I feel stupid doing it.. you can remove me off the EditGroup for doing it…
I received a very quick response from the original author and he is
quite correct at date of when the article was published. The
unfortunate thing is that he has not pointed that out in any future
I find that wierd that authors whether good or bad do not seem to point
out that it is not valid anymore and prefer to keep the bad in place for
an astronomicle (typo) amount of time.
P.S. I attached his response for all I didn't request annonymity hence
P.P.S. I didn't include any reference to fedora-marketing if anyone was
curious due to the fact that I don't feel my opinion represents the
group and the fact that what I say is not what everyone says.
(yes, skewed to my TZ, its really 18/08/2005 for the rest of you)
Fedora Marketing Meeting (Fri Aug 19 01:03:09 EST 2005)
Colin Charles (byte)
Bob Jensen (StillBob)
Chris Negus (cnegus)
Kazunari Hirano (khirano)
Rahul Sundaram (mether)
Karsten Wade (quaid)
Greg DeKoenigsberg (gregdek)
Jeremy Hogan (jhogan)
Steven Garrity (sgarrity)
* Fedora Mentors (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors). Start with
each project, Karsten did the Docs Project this week. All steering
members are encourage to put names on Mentors wiki page, and contact
anyone who has introduced or lurked there.
- to market, each sub project has leads/sub-leads. Shoot off mail to
them. Then a massive announcement to fedora-maintainers and
- covers engineering and packaging, how do i write patches, how do I
contribute? how do I find the people who get stuff done? what is
verbotten in the Fedora community?
ACTION: Colin to contact lead/co-lead of projects/sub-projects in
Fedora, to inform them of mentors. Look to hand this off to Mark.
* Hole in FUDCon London 2005 schedule - Greg suggests a BOF, and Greg
will lead the BOF.
ACTION: Greg to tell Alex he's going to do that
* Community Marketing Contacts - based on openoffice.org,
http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html. Triage is part of the
<gregdek> What's a list of CMC responsibilities?
<bytee> yes, so, we have a "global" lead and "regional" leads.
<bytee> gregdek: people the press can talk to, handle LUG talks
<bytee> provide informational talks at unis
<bytee> hand out flyers
<bytee> organise events (like Red Hat meetup)
<gregdek> Do CMCs get together for meetings like this one?
<bytee> for starters, i think those are good expectations. I will write
this up all more coherently, and send to list
- Greg/jhogan (FIGHT! ;-)) volunteers to be the CMC for South East US
- Bob volunteers for Mid West US
- Karsten has Silicon Valley/Central California
- Mether and Tejas for India
ACTION: Colin to mangle responsibilities and market it
* Swag skipped
* Logo: Greg says its awaiting more treatments at the agency :)
* ACTION: Bob to create list of Fedora sites. Place it on
* Steve: Welcome Windows users, provide some form of transition kit.
Karsten mentions this is beyond the scope of Docs, but if there existed
a tool in Fedora, it can be documented. OpenMoveover.sf.net is
suggested, for settings migration.
ACTION: Punt to -marketing-list for more ideas
* Rahul wants to "market" the idea of enabling legacy group by default
in the installer
* Steve: I'm a bit late on this, but a have a suggestion for FUDcon -
invite a Ubuntu-er and Novell-er, etc. to talk about what they might be
doing in their distros that might be interesting for Fedora. Karsten
tops that with someone from openSuse.org, and Greg finds it
Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/
Thank you very much.
>All I can is I would have to agree with you those FC the 'final' ones
>look great. I really like them. I think congrats are in order at least
Get your free email from http://mymail.jp.popstarmail.org
This is regarding art.fedoraproject.org. I think there is a similar
setup available at www.fedoraforum.org "Gallery" area...
I just wanted to clarify... or maybe I missed something... Are we
propsing to make a new area where people can upload their art? Or we
combine the existing one and put new software over it and move to
On 8/18/05, fedora-marketing-list-request(a)redhat.com
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:07:51 -0400
> From: seth vidal <skvidal(a)phy.duke.edu>
> Subject: Re: Fedora Branding
> To: Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base
> <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>, Colin Charles <byte(a)aeon.com.my>
> Message-ID: <1124377671.6540.7.camel@cutter>
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> On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 00:57 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 10:32 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
> > > > note to self: glad to see used more and more as "alternate logos" one of
> > > > my hats (http://clipart.nicubunu.ro/svg/special/blue_fedora.svg)
> > >
> > > More to the point, that is a perfect example that supports your Fedora
> > > Art project idea. Having that art piece to build upon has enabled a lot
> > > of other art projects to get started, just like source code!
> > >
> > > Source art. Art source. Something saucy like that.
> > Ok, what software can be used to manage art.fedoraproject.org ?
> > One that allows user logins via the web, user upload, and nicely
> > cataloguing it. It must not be a PHP solution, and Python-based
> > solutions are favoured
> > I'm sure we can make this happen, provided the above requirements are
> > met
> Diana Fong and I discussed this briefly. She was going to talk to some
> of the art.gnome.org to see what they have.
Steve Mallett illustrates his fundamental misunderstanding of Fedora
here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7576 . However, this does
point to a marketing problem.
Are we clearly defining Fedora to the technical community?