I have come across the following reviews of Fedora Core 5. I have
managed to get the overall impressions of the reviewer through machine
translations but I am not sure the reviewers would understand if I
respond in English. Either I can respond here in English and someone can
translate and send in a response in French or someone who speaks French
can respond in it and send in a translation in English to this list too.
This applies for all the other languages too. How do we proceed with
Hello everybody !
When i last saw Puneet's work in flash it gave me some ideas... first
that i really think we need a advertisement video to play on loop on
booth for example! People really like videos.
I'm introducing here what i've done tonight, the beginning of a video
introducing Fedora Core. It is still in development, i have many ideas
about a lot of things.
Here it is : http://www.mrtomlinux.org/fedora-movie.avi (2Mo)
To play it, even if it no kind of divx video, i was not able to play it
with totem, but xine, without any properietary codec read it very well.
I would like to have feedbacks, as many as possible, about speed, visual
effects and the more important, content. For the moment i am adding the
headlines the the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview page, i don't
think i will include them all.
The file format has not been decided yet, i don't think i will keep this
raw avi file format.
Well, tell me what you think!
It seems that Novell have got some money to burn before the end of the
financial year, and are funding a tour of all UK Linux User Groups.
They're flying one of their guys over from the US, and he's teaming up
with a fairly well known and respected
author/journalist/podcaster/writer called Jono Bacon and they're being
funded to visit as many LUGs as they can and promote Novell's products.
There's more information at http://www.jonobacon.org/uklugtour/
Jon Fautley <jfautley(a)redhat.com> direct: +44 1483 739615
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On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 20:02 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote:
> thanks for the email.
> > While you have been positive about the general package management
> > improvements through Pirut and Pup, you have mentioned that Pirut is
> > still buggy. Can you report these bugs in http://bugzilla.redhat.com and
> > list them?
> I stopped filing bug reports for most projects a long time ago, about
> the time I got 20 accounts on different projects that became too many.
> These days, I only file bugs directly to Gnome and mostly to my main
> distribution, Arch Linux. I am just a reviewer, not a user that will
> use FC all the time, so I don't feel the need to take the time and
> file bugs.
Sort of reasonable but short of what I would expect from a technical
user and one who was taken enough time to actually review the release.
Anyway would you atleast list them, so I can see if I can reproduce and
then file bug reports on it myself?
> > On the review, you have mentioned that sound mixing works by default
> > without manual configuration through .asoundrc files. This is a feature
> > that works starting from Fedora Core 4 and not a new one to this
> > release.
> It didn't work for me on FC4.
> > I would appreciate if you can file bug reports on the suspend feature
> > not working on your laptop as well as issue with the touchpad
> > configuration.
> I might actually just file this one, because if Red Hat fixes it, it
> is a good chance that then my main distro will get a fix too, as my
> distro's maintainers are not kernel guys.
> > I was unable to reproduce the GNOME 2.14 issue about preferences that
> > you have mentioned in the review. I didn't see it get discussed anywhere
> > in our lists or forums which I keep a close eye on. So i truly seems
> > weird to me.
> It is a small warning window exactly when opening some gnome prefs.
> That window stays open for less than half a second. Then, it closes
> all by itself. It's a bit unprofessional imho.
> > A menu editor is part of Fedora Core 5 (GNOME 2.12 wasnt included in any
> > Fedora release). You just have to right click the menu bar in the panel
> > and click on edit menus to access this feature.
> Except the fact that there is a huge disoverabilty issue about this
> (two FC5 reviews so far, two reviewers didn't find it), I find this
> menu editor very bare bones. For example, what I wanted to do was to
> make Ekiga's name smaller in the menus, because it was too long. The
> current menu editor doesn't let me do that.
Yeah.Atleast you can use that GNOME bugzilla account of yours now ;-)
> > Also FUSA is disabled in
> > the menus due to some thorny issues with device ownership on consoles.
> > Both of these are highlighted in
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/FC5Common listed in our frontpage.
> I see. Hopefully it will be fixed soon.
There has been various discussions about it. Might be a tricky issue.
> > * No iMovie/iDVD-style applications - Not sure which one matches this
> > requirement now to be included in Fedora Core. Maybe Diva, Kino or Pitvi
> > would be good enough at some point in the future.
> Yes, in the very futuristic future. I am waiting for a good Linux
> *home* video editor since 2002. ;)
Of course. If you find anything mature enough to be included in the
distributions, let us know and we will take a good look at it.
Thanks for the review of Fedora Core 5. You have remarked about the
performance improvements that we have had in Fedora Core 5p and wondered
whether the system monitor application's algorithm has changed or
whether GNOME and Fedora actually has optimized to this extend. It
turn's out that we did make some big jumps over the development process.
Many of these improvements are what we inherited from the upstream
development (including some of these made by Red Hat developers) rather
than Fedora specific improvements but we still share the benefits as
While you have been positive about the general package management
improvements through Pirut and Pup, you have mentioned that Pirut is
still buggy. Can you report these bugs in http://bugzilla.redhat.com and
On the review, you have mentioned that sound mixing works by default
without manual configuration through .asoundrc files. This is a feature
that works starting from Fedora Core 4 and not a new one to this
I would appreciate if you can file bug reports on the suspend feature
not working on your laptop as well as issue with the touchpad
I was unable to reproduce the GNOME 2.14 issue about preferences that
you have mentioned in the review. I didn't see it get discussed anywhere
in our lists or forums which I keep a close eye on. So i truly seems
weird to me.
A menu editor is part of Fedora Core 5 (GNOME 2.12 wasnt included in any
Fedora release). You just have to right click the menu bar in the panel
and click on edit menus to access this feature. Also FUSA is disabled in
the menus due to some thorny issues with device ownership on consoles.
Both of these are highlighted in
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/FC5Common listed in our frontpage.
You have mentioned that FC6 will rock even better with AIGLX. While
that's of course true, you can try this out even with FC5,
Let me tackle the cons part one by one
* Suspend-to-RAM didn't work as advertised - As mentioned earlier I
would like to see a bug report on this. This is highly hardware specific
and while it works on many hardware that we explicitly tested on
we aren't perfect yet.
* No phone tools (PDA support hit and miss) - True. Has been a major
pain point for quite sometime in Fedora. I am hoping that we see some
traction and maturity with a common framework like opensync.
* A pain to install non-free stuff manually - While not in match with
the ideals of the Fedora Project, as a general issue about adding
repositories, many of them now usually have a repository-release.rpm or
similar package which drops in a repository in /etc/yum.repos.d which is
better than manually tweaking configuration files. Fedora Extras and
custom repositories during installation time might even happen as soon
as Fedora Core 6. Work has already been done in FC5 time frame to get
Anaconda to support yum as its dependency resolver.
* No iMovie/iDVD-style applications - Not sure which one matches this
requirement now to be included in Fedora Core. Maybe Diva, Kino or Pitvi
would be good enough at some point in the future.
* No UI for most Bluetooth profiles - Haven't use bluetooth enabled
devices. KDE has a application. GNOME support could be improved better.
* No Gnome menu editor included - It is. As already indicated just right
click on the menu bar.
* No Fast User Switch applet - True. We still have to hash out some
issues in this implementation.
Thanks again for the review. Looking forward to a release of Fedora Core
6 and your review of it.
I've started again to push forward this FedoraLibraries
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for your cooperation.
I've been invited to run a Fedora BOF at this years LugRadio Live event:
It's a 2-Day Event. List of speakers so far is:
* Mark Shuttleworth - Ubuntu
* Gervase Markham - TBC
* Bastien Nocera - GNOME development and Fedora
* Simon Phipps - Open Source and Sun
* Richard Moore - IBM and Open Source
* Jonathan Haslam - DTrace
* Steve Coast - OpenStreetmap
* Kat Goodwin, Jen Phillips and Phated - Women in Open Source
* Edward Hervey - PiTiVi
* Scott James Remnant - Ubuntu
* Barbie - Messagelabs and Perl
* Mirco Müller - Lowfat - a natural way to view your files...with a twist
* Sarah Ewen - Linux on Playstation 2
* Bruno Bord - This Talk May Contain Swearing
* Jonathan Riddell - KDE 4 and Kubuntu Dapper
* Matthew Bloch - Virtualisation and Bytemark
* Alex Hudson - Hula
* Martin Vogel - BBC Action Network
* Ian Lynch - OpenDocument
* Martijn van de Streek - Ubuntu
* Michael Meeks - OpenOffice.org
* Matthew Garrett - Linux and Laptops
* John Leach - Everybody Loves Eric Raymond
* Elliot Smith - Ruby On Rails
* Paul Cooper - OpenAdvantage
* Tom Steinberg - MySociety and Pledgebank
* Ewan Spence - TBC
* Christian Schaller - GStreamer
* Bytemark Hosting
* OpenDocument Fellowship
So quite high-profile!
Might also be doing a talk on Catalyst with one of the Catalyst Devel Team.
I was planning to talk about Fedora Docs and plans for FC6?
Anyone other ideas?
Can we get any goodies to give away?
Can/do we have a Blurb for these kinds of things to put in the main
Thoughts most welcome!
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