I just stumbled upon the following video, presenting the ELive distribution
(prominently placed on their front page):
Even if it's just eye candy and doesn't show anything that actually makes a
distro "a distro", it probably leaves everyone with a "wow" feeling, wanting to
try it out. Something like the compiz/foo desktop effects, which even though
they are just eye candy, they *did* bring a lot of people to linux.
I'm wondering if there there is anyone that could produce such a video for
Fedora. Maybe the RH video team could help out in the production or something?
Just wondering if we could also have a piece of that "wow" cake.
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"He who gives up functionality for ease of use
loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous)
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Subject: [foss.in] FOSS.IN/2007: Event Announcement
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:44:07 +0530 (IST)
From: Atul Chitnis <listadmin(a)linux-bangalore.org>
To: FOSS.IN <foss-in(a)yahoogroups.com>
It's that time of the year again, when we reveal details about this
FOSS.IN/2007 will be held from December 4th to December 8th. That's
Tuesday through Saturday.
The venue will be (for the most part) the National Science Symposium
Centre (NSSC) of the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore.
As always, there are plenty of changes, improvements and new things at the
The event itself is in two major parts:
- - The Main Conference, which is on December 6/7/8 (Thu/Fri/Sat)
- - "Project Days", which are on December 4/5 (Tue/Wed)
The formats of each of these are very different from each other, but both
are integral parts of the event. Both will take place at the main venue.
THE MAIN CONFERENCE
The Main Conference (Dec 6/7/8) is similar to the format of the event in
previous years, with some dramatic differences:
Unlike in previous years, the main conference will not have tracks. Each
session will be self-contained. While talks will still be classified
according to the broad topic, they will not all be concentrated in one
hall. This will encourage movement between halls and getting exposed to a
wider variety of topics.
Each slot will be 90 minutes instead of the usual 60 minutes. However,
this does not mean that talks will be that long - each talk will be about
45 minutes talk time, and about 30 minutes discussion time. And there is a
15 minute buffer between talk slots to allow audiences (and speakers) to
move between halls, grab a coffee or a snack, etc.
In addition, the main conference will only use the 750, 120, and 90 seater
halls. The 250 seater is still being considered - we will use it only if
the number of high-quality talks selected exceeds our capacity. The 60
seater hall will not be used for talks (we have other plans for it).
The Main Conference will differentiate itself from previous years in the
way talks are selected. Most of the talks will be by recognised experts in
their fields. Because our Talk Slot format dramatically reduces the number
of talks from previous years, we can afford to be choosy. And we will be.
While we will still have a formal Call for Participation (CfP) for all
talks, many talks will be invited, and others will be brutally scrutinised
for depth, context and value to audiences.
Talk Feedback System:
In addition, we are introducing a talk rating/feedback system that will
allow people to comment on and rate talks online after the talk completes.
The feedback system will be moderated and authenticated (you know, to
prevent our friends selling body-part enhancements from turning this into
a market place :), but the comments will be public and permanent.
This will achieve two things:
- - The feedbacks for each talk will act as a reference for the speakers, if
they need to prove their bonafides as speakers, they simply have to
point at the FOSS.IN site where information about the talk and the
feedback from the audiences will be recorded.
- - This will encourage speakers to be far better prepared than some have
been in the past. A last-minute preparation speaker is almost certainly
going to get bad feedback, so the tag "was a speaker at FOSS.IN" can
work against the speaker if s/he wasn't prepared, but work wonders for
those speakers who do prepare, deliver an in-depth talk and who
interacts with the audience.
Feedback will be on a per-talk basis, not per-speaker, but multiple-talks
per speaker will be an exception anyway - you'd have to be a superstar to
achieve that. :)
Both the Main conference and Project Days (described below) will focus on
development and contribution to FOSS Projects. General talks will be
limited to a few, and in general the nature/background of the speaker will
decide whether the talk will be selected.
As it was last year, advocacy and basic introductory talks will not be
accepted. This is to avoid the "preaching to the choir" problem, as well
as avoid duplicating the efforts of other FOSS events in India.
Project Days (Dec 4/5) are new to FOSS.IN. Loosely based on the
mini-conferences made popular by events such as Linux.conf.au (LCA), these
will be an implementation of the "topics" idea proposed in 2005.
Project Days will be full day sessions on a single topic, and the topic
will be a specific FOSS project. Led by project leaders/contributors, the
sessions will expose audiences to the current stateand future plans of the
project, and show where and how people can get involved. Workshops are
encouraged to be part of such sessions.
The number of projects will be limited. As the 750 seater hall will not be
used for Project Days sessions, sessions will take place in the 60/90/120
and 250 seater halls. That means there can be (2 days x 4 halls)=8 Project
To makeit clear what we are looking at, here are some examples of Project
KDE, Gnome, Fedora, Ubuntu/Debian, OpenOffice, IndLinux, etc.
Here are examples of topics that are NOT eligible for a Project Days
Web Development, Developing in PHP/Python/Perl/Ruby, System
If look closely, will that we are targeting contribution to the project,
not deployment of the project. For example, "Developing Python" is a good
topic, "Developing with Python" is not.
Talk slots will be 1 hour in length, with no more than 45 minutes talk
time. This works because unlike the Main conference, all talks related to
the topic are in the same hall.
However, actual distribution of talks will be decided by both Team FOSS.IN
and the Session organizers. Since there will also be workshops involved,
things have to be a bit more flexible.
The actual Project Day sessions will be decided over the next two weeks.
First, discuss on the mailing list, identify topics, scope of topics and
who possible speakers could be.
Next, formal Project Days Session Proposals have to be made. These
proposals will be evaluated for completeness, scope, context and other
factors, very similar to the way talks will be selected for the Main
The 8 sessions will then be selected, session organizers appointed and
sessions will be announced, and the CfP will open. People will now be able
to submit talk proposals, choosing either the Main Conference or one of
the Project Day sessions.
The FOSS.IN HackCenter:
The Hack Center is a new addition to FOSS.IN this year.
It is a large area which will be open throughout the conference duration,
from 9:00am to 7:00pm, where people can get together to work on FOSS
The Center will be provided with PCs, power, switched networks and
internet connectivity, tables and chairs.
There are a few rules that are expected to be followed:
1. This is not a download or surfing centre. People are not expected to
settle in and use the bandwidth to download stuff from the net. The
area is provided for people to get together to work on FOSS projects.
2. PCs provided will be few. In general, there will be one PC per group -
people are encouraged to bring their own laptops.
3. This is not a general community assembly hall. People are requested to
only use this hall for actual development work, not for general
sit-downs and discussions. For discussions, BoF tents are provided.
Birds-of-a-feather sessions will happen throughout the main conference, in
semi-open tents equipped with wireless LAN, power and whiteboards.
New to FOSS.IN is a social evening on Friday, the 7th of December. The
party will take place at an off-site location, close to the event venue
(actual venue will be announced close to the event).
This party is open to all participants of FOSS.IN - speakers, delegates,
exhibitors, sponsors and of course volunteers. There will be a nominal
cover charge that will be paid by people wishing to attend the party, and
it is optional - only people who wish to attend will have to pay.
As every year, there will be an exhibition of commercial and
non-commercial, FOSS-related products. Details will appear on the website.
As every year, we are restricting costs to cover only direct expenses on
Because of the multi-part nature of the conference, conference fees will
be as follows:
1. Main Conference only : Rs.500
2. Project Days only : Rs.300
3. Main Conference + Project Days: Rs.750
4. Optional Party(a)FOSS.IN: TBA
Conference Swag (like last year's mug, T-shorts, etc.) is only for people
attending the main conference.
All packages include Lunch, tea/coffee and snacks for each day.
Corporate Support Package:
In addition, there is an optional "Corporate Support" package, to help
companies support the event. This package is identical package 3 above
(Main Conference + Project Days), at Rs.3000 per head.
This package is optional and meant for organizations who wish to help
support the event. Attendance of the Party(a)FOSS.IN is included in the
package, as well as all other benefits.
In addition, all passes and other materials will be sent to the
organization before the event, so that such sponsored attendees will not
have to stand in the queue to register at the conference.
Additional funds raised this way will go towards additional facilities for
delegates, subsidising the party, etc.
As usual, we have a limited budget for aiding selected speakers to travel
to Bangalore. Speakers are requested to first attempt to get sponsorship
from other sources before asking for Travel Assistance.
All speakers at the event (Main Conference or Project days) get
complimentary passes to the event, and other speaker-specific goodies.
The website for the event will open in the next 24 hours. It will not
contain all details yet - this will improve as we pin down various things,
and as feedback and suggestions come in on the mailing list.
You are best served by adding http://foss.in/rss to your newsreader of
choice to keep track of changes on the website, and of course to subscribe
to the FOSS.IN mailing list.
This note does not cover a lot of details, so feel free to start asking
questions, discussing things, making suggestions, etc. Note that not every
suggestion can be implemented, so don't take it personal if we have to
reject one. Also note that FOSS.IN is one of four international FOSS
events (the others being Linux.Conf.Au, OLS and now Linuxconf.EU), and
because of this there are certain things we can do, and some which we
As usual, we ask people to leave the politics at the door, and help make
this an enjoyable event for everyone. A lot of hard work has gone into
this event already, and a lot more will happen in the months leading up to
For now, the best way to help is to spread the word (buttons, banners,
etc. will be on the website, as will be PDF brochures, posters, etc.), and
to discuss on the FOSS.IN mailing list.
Please remember - this is an to get people get involved in FOSS
development and contribution. Our primary objective is to get more Indians
involved, and to get them to interact with people from all over the world.
Expect a lot more news from us as time goes by. Tons of stuff up our
The List Rules : http://foss.in/list-rules
The Event Site : http://foss.in
The Event Planet : http://planet.foss.in
The Event Channel : #foss.in on irc.freenode.net
The Event List : http://foss.in/list
You see things; and you say 'Why?';
But I dream things that never were;
and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw
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I need immediate feedback for the GITEX Demo Pod sign which Red Hat is
See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/GitexExampleSign for
the example provided by Red Hat.
Here is my attempt:
<FEDORA PROJECT LOGO> <RED HAT>
The Fedora Project
A Collection of Projects Sponsored by Red Hat and Developed as a
Partnership between the Open Source Community and Red Hat Engineers
* Produces Fedora 7, a Leading-edge Linux Distribution with a
Graphical Installer, Advanced Desktop, Security and Administration
* Provides Base Software for Red Hat Enterprise Linux and One Laptop Per Child.
* Hosts the Fedora Localization Project, for Translating and Adapting
Applications, Documentation and Websites to Specific Languages,
Regions and Cultures
* Develops Revisor, a Free Tool for Producing Custom Live CDs and USB Sticks.
Volunteer, Fedora Project
First of all, sorry if I'm posting to the wrong list. As part of our
preparation for GITEX, I have
had to think about two things recently:
1. Fedora's branding, and
2. Fedora's identity
I viewed the excellent presentation (yes, I pressed F5). Here are some
conclusions I drew from the slideshow:
Here is the crux of the matter:
In a commercial context, this is the definition of BRANDING:
The main purpose of branding is to get
MORE people to buy MORE stuff
for MORE years at a HIGHER price.
This definition doesn't make sense for a FLOSS community distribution.
This definition makes more sense in the Fedora Project context:
The main purpose of branding is to get
MORE people to produce AND consume MORE FLOSS
for MORE years at a HIGHER rate.
To further clarify, a strong Fedora brand will communicate the "Trust
= Reliability and Delight" formula:
Fedora: the Linux distro you can depend on (and more fun, too!)
Reliability = Quality and dependability
Delight = Cool technology with great design and the enjoyable gut
feeling of "scratching the user's itch"
As pointed out in the presentation, "Identity is not a logo". At the
same time, we don't want to confuse people by mixing the Fedora and
Red Hat logos together. I'm glad Fedora is sponsored by Red Hat. I
also appreciate the need for Fedora to have its own identity. This
goes beyond legal issues like trademarks to providing quality and
I say the Fedora identity is the experience of being part of the
Fedora Project community. The Fedora Project, warts and all, is a
quality open source community that produces a quality distro. That's
The purpose of the Fedora Project is to produce and sustain a
leading-edge linux distribution with excellent developer and user
That's what Fedora offers and sets Fedora apart.
>From a 10-year linux user and 1-year Fedora Project member,
Volunteer, Fedora Project
If you haven't heard of DBus activation yet, read up on it.
When it comes to expanding the core feature set of Fedora, though,
Fedora 8 has a lot to offer. Aboutboul explained that a new dbus service
launch service will aim to cut down boot time by minimizing the number
of services that start when a machine powers up.
On the identity side, Fedora 8 will include something called freeIPA
(Identity, Policy, Audit), which is intended to be an easy way for
system administrators to install, setup and administer centralized
identity management and authentication.
linuxglobe media disc proposal
I would like a list of applications that a media professional would use on
Fedora, I know of some, but I like recommendations because I plan to make my
own Spin in CD format that not only has those applications but themes
inspired from my site, linuxglobe.wordpress.com. I want to spread the word
about Fedora and this Spin might be a great way to do so! Please send a
list of recommended applications to my linux blog, the winner will get the
first download of the spin. I am excited about what my blog and I hope the
eventual national magazine I hope to have published in a year or two.
By the time Fedora 9 comes out, I hope linuxglobe WILL be a magazine that is
sold in every major
store in the country that sells magazines! :D
Mark McLaughlin - linuxglobe.wordpress.com
Novell has agreed to package Smolt and make it available in their
repository for their next release, 10.3 though they aren't using it in
their installer. Still in discussions with Mandriva. If you have
contacts in other distributions, you can drop them a mail about Smolt
and CC me in the discussions.
"When Fedora 7 was released, one of its standout features was Smolt, an
opt-in program for collecting data about users' hardware. Since then,
Smolt has provided a publicly available snapshot of systems running
Fedora, and is in the process of being ported to other distributions.
With features being rapidly added, Smolt has the potential to offer an
unprecedented wealth of information, and to aid in quality assurance,
tech support, and advocacy, not only for Fedora, but for GNU/Linux in
"Fedora 7 has seen the word "Core" trimmed from it's name. This
reflects just one of several changes internally to the project. With
the first ever inclusion of tools to create your own version of
Fedora, Fedora 7 really reaches out to the community, quite literally.
If you don't like it, then by all means change it to be the way you
want. The Fedora Project has given you the power. To date this is the
most successful release of Fedora in my opinion. "
There are folks frequently asking, can I setup a wiki the way Fedora
does it? If you are trying to build a community and want to leverage the
same tools and infrastructure Fedora does, this article is for you.
"One of the popular features of Fedora 7 is the ability to remix Fedora
and build your own custom version. Now don’t get me wrong–building a new
distribution is nice. But what about those who wish to create their own
Fedora-based project? How do you grow a complete community in an
enterprise environment or in the general public? Thanks to some of the
lesser-known features, anyone can use the exact same tools that make
Fedora, well… Fedora."