Here's the URL for the pre-order SD cards for the XO.
This comes about 3 weeks before the One Laptop Per Child Give One Get
One promotion starts and exactly 4 weeks until the release of F10.
Use this time to encourage people to visit http://laptop.org and talk up
just how spectacular the XO is.
Remember, there are lots of people out there who will stand in line for
days waiting to buy electronics and this is their chance to have
something 'exclusive' since the XO isn't something you can buy at your
local electronics store.
With the F10 option for the XO, adults who may not find the child
focused graphical interface called Sugar practical for daily use, Fedora
allows the XO to behave in a more familiar way.
In this sense, the XO is on-par with any small form factor laptop except
your purchase of an XO during the Give One Get One promotion directly
effects the lives of children.
Again, thinking about all those people who don't think twice about
buying smart phones, game systems, and the like - there's no corporate
profit with the XO, just a chance to better the lives of children all
over the world.
I think this is an important issue. I must say it´s impressive how
Fedora has been changing and giving much more attention, on each
realease, to the needs of end-users. We don´t need to go very far. If we
compare FC5 and F10, we can see there are huge differences in terms of
end-user support. NetworkManager is one great example.
Although this has been really nice, I think there are things to improve.
I´m always hiting on the same key when it comes to end-users. I know
Fedora cannot (and should not) go away from its objectives (which is the
very reason of its success), but paying attention to the end-user voice
should be added as one *serious* project objective also. I mean, side by
side with "smooth updates", "rapid evolution" and the other good Fedora
I don´t have any doubts about the quality of the software behind Fedora.
And I´m aware a lot of people don´t mind if Fedora has a lot of
end-users or not. And that´s what I think should be changed. Fedora
should seek for increasing the number of end-users. And that´s only
possible when it receives, with an open spirit, and put to
consideration, the end-users demands. I´m not saying it´s not done at
all. I´m only suggesting it should be added as a main goal.
Doug Berry escreveu:
>>> Jonas wrote:
>> historically speaking developers are good at creating new development
>> models, cool features, new and innovative stuff and be the cowboys on
>> the frontline. One thing that developers has been better and better at
>> over the years is human interaction, this is still an area that it is
>> good to have outsiders for (the grandma example) To not only drive the
>> technical frontline but also the usability.
>> They are the ones to write and merge the code, to decide which idéas go >where. So my question about statistics is about that, to know if there >are many people not writing code that actually have any influence about >what goes where.
> Hi, I'm new here, but a long-time Fedora user. I think Jonas raised a very valid point about the needs of the end-user (grandma's) and are they being adequately voiced within the Fedora community.
> I'm an author and book designer, and I could not write a line of code, if it led to a nightly date with Keira Knightley. (Sorry)
> Not that I am disparaging developers, far from it. They are the backbone of the Linux world, and FOSS! But it is the end-user that actually uses our software: or not. Input about their needs and habits is vital.
> Let me give an example: Fedora 8-KDE, the GIMP spin-off Krita. Great little version except that it was almost un-usable for a real artist. Why, because the pop-up menu boxes, you needed to do the work, obstructed the image area. Sometimes, they got so big you couldn't even see the right scroll-bar. You were forever moving them around; the only other choice was to turn them all off. They would not slide behind the image window.
> That one flaw, in an otherwise great piece of software, ruined my experience and led me to yum in the Gimp. I imagined, at the time, the developers simply did not realize how such a thing might effect the whole thing in totality. Probably because they were not artists and too busy writing code and not doing art. That particular problem was fixed in newer versions, but the point is still valid. If that one detail happened to a new Fedora user who was an artist, we might just have drove her back to Daddy Bill.
> Please do not think that I am disparaging KDE. KDE rocks my world. Take Ktorrent for example. What can I say about that beauty, except eternal hugs and kisses to whoever created it.
> Anyway. I realize the code-writers cannot be to theoretical; they are limited by what they can do and not always by what they would like to do. But marketing is not just about providing products to a fickle user-audience that knows it has choices and wants to be pampered. It is vital to create cutting-edge software that people can depend on and work with. And to do that the code-writers need input from their grandma.
> -- w Douglas Berry --
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> I think OpenOffice.org ought to be by default on the gnome live cd
> everyone I know use it.
I think Microsoft Office ought to be by default on each and every Fedora
liveCD because everyone I know use it...
The question is not what people want, but what Fedora wants to achieve. ;)
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
French Fedora Ambassador
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin
I was wondering about something. I've downloaded every new distribution off of the Live CD. So after everything is loaded, once you get to your desktop, two things seem to happen: 1) PUP opens up and says: "You have updates," and 2) I go on and spend the next couple of hours house-cleaning, icons on the desktop, setting-up the file manager, etc.
So, you know that Desktop icon you click on to write the contents of the Live CD to your hard drive? How about if we come up with several of those? Say, click here to write the two-gig Fedora Office package to your desktop. Or the three-gig Fedora Arts Package? Or Multimedia? And so on....
These packages would have all the core stuff everybody wants, but then be top-heavy with speciality stuff, that would appeal to a certain professions or lively-hoods.
The icon could simply trigger a download script in YUM or PUP to download a pre-determined set of packages. And people would still have the basic stuff to play with while the new packages are downloading.
Remember that one of the biggest money makers for Daddy Bill is Microsoft Office Suit. People pay a fortune for it, but they are professionals, so it is probably tax deductible. And yet, Open Office has stuff that kicks WOS's butt, but nobody I know of, includes all of OO packages on a distro.
In fact, I believe Fedora 9 didn't even have some of the OO packages listed on their Add/Remove Packages application.
And this could have the unintended effect of inspiring up-stream development. Since if people know that their stuff is going to be featured on a whole distro, they may buckle down. Seems like a lot of packages are just hanging, and not being worked on or updated. Probably because their developers are to busy, writing the core stuff, or just making a living.
This would also mean we would not need all the DVD's, just Live CDs for everybody, and people could get most of the bulk they want via downloads after they have the core packages in place.
I don't know, maybe this is a developer's nightmare, or maybe not. What does anyone think?
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:31:21AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> I was thinking these would be printed at maybe 20"x30" or maybe larger
> proportions. These are just rough cuts so they do need some padding to
> fit that ratio, right now they scale to 20"x~24". At 20"x24", the two
> rows of text together are (if I'm measuring right) about 1.5" tall so
> I'm thinking not readable from 6 feet away.
> Do you think they'd work if we just took the text out?
> Maybe it could be resized and the little sound bites shortened even
> more, into 2-3 word phrases?
Well, if those are that small, then is the text in the bubbles (i.e.,
'FEATURES') large enough? Should they be reprinted at about the same
transparency as the reprinted symbol for the foundation? Or something?
Back on the blurbs, they can definitely be shortened. What I think they
should be (mostly adapted from mo's blurbs):
freedom: "freedom trumps conveinence" # bit iffy on the word 'trumps',
but it's all I could think of
friends: "friends around the world"
features: "fedora can do it"
first: "followed, not following"
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