Re: Co-branding?
by Joerg Simon
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 09:55:34 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> JoergSimon wrote:
> > Hi Rahul,
> >
> > just in private and in peace!
> > Why starting this as a public discussion, this is strange?
>
> I don't see what is wrong with a public discussion.
OK as you wish, marketing list is the wrong place - and a lot of Ambassadors
did not read the marketing list
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 02:20:03 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> Should there be some
> of co-branding within the distribution and a prominent hint in other
> places?
> Something like Fedora - Powered by Red Hat/ Sponsored by Red Hat or some
> such.
Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 09:21:29 schrieb JoergSimon(altered):
> Why starting this as a public discussion, this is strange? Why not with the
> Ambassadors? They have to deal with that.
> We in europe and Contributors all over the world worked hard to have the
> Fedora Brand unique, i know that some
> people in the project are trying to get more contributions from companies -
> like "contribute inhouse builds to EPEL you have it for RHEL with a lot of
> benefits". For Fedora this is good - i bed if there are companies wich
> build software for RHEL then they know the Fedora Project!
> A Double Brand for RedHat maybe it is good for a short term marketing
> boost. But RedHat have to pay for this double Brand - not much direct with
> money, like "oh you are sponsored by RedHat then you must pay for your
> booth" .... Me for my self, i work for the Fedoraproject with all what i
> can do and i love the work of RedHat and the RedHat People and i hold some
> RedHat Certificates - but i am not a wannabe RedHat Contributor - if the
> Project will go in the OpenSuse direction i am sure the Fedora Project will
> get maybe more users - but lose Contributors.
>
> Cheers
And yes, RedHat does major work and give much money - but Fedora would not
exist in the way as it is, because of the work and the commitment of all the
free contributors and i know and i feel, i dont want it marked as a RedHat
SubProject. This is wrong!
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15 years, 1 month
Associating the Red Hat and Fedora brands?
by Greg DeKoenigsberg
So I'm going to ask this question to you, the friendly Fedora marketing
team.
But first, a history lesson:
http://lwn.net/Articles/83360/
This is pretty much the most accurate depiction of how the great brand
gulf between Fedora and Red Hat started. And in many people's minds, that
gulf has grown to such an extent that many don't have any way of
associating Red Hat with Fedora *at all*.
So let me ask you:
If, in splash screens for Fedora, we put a tasteful "sponsored by Red Hat"
with the Shadowman logo somewhere small... how would you all feel about
that?
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15 years, 1 month
news.fedoraproject.org
by Jonathan Roberts
Evening all,
We've been talking for a while about setting up a news.fedoraproject.org
site, for a number of different uses. Thanks to the hard work of Frank
Chiulli we now have a test install of Lyceum on publictest 1 for our use :)
Before moving forward with this, we need to deal with a number of issues:
1) What do we actually want to use the site for?
My thoughts are that we use it for Fedora Weekly News, along with other
marketing stuff such as interviews and announcements - similar to what
press.redhat.com is.
2) Depending on the above, do we want to use Lyceum or Wordpress? Infra
would like us to have whatever solution we use packaged and yumable on
Fedora; Wordpress is already in while Lyceum needs packaging. As I
understand it Lyceum allows us to have multiple blogs and is what's used by
Red Hat Magazine. Wordpress only allows for the one blog, but would also
allow multiple authors/editors on a single blog (I think).
3) Experiment and play - find a work flow that's right for us! We may need
some test material for this, such as an example FWN release or a mock
announcement.
4) We need a theme. I've started on one, and whatever we create for
Wordpress should also work on Lyceum, though we've had some problems with
this! If you're interested to see what I've got so far,
test.questionsplease.org will let you :) I can make this available for
people to use as a base. All I've done is create a simple Wordpress
template that uses the ids and classes from fedora.css, and point at that
for the style sheet. I'll upload this to my fedorapeople space soon...
Anyone is welcome to sign up and we can start adding people in different
roles to the Fedora News blog I created in Lyceum, but the URL for the
install is on another box...Rahul, Frank, can you help me out here?
I think that's all for now. Does anybody have any thoughts or ideas about
this? Ah, and finally, could we keep all replies to the marketing list, if
people think that's appropriate? Better to do everything once than 5 times!
Best wishes, and sorry for all the stuff I've probably forgotten!
Jon
15 years, 1 month
Co-branding?
by Rahul Sundaram
Hi,
I was talking recently to a couple of friends who aren't in the software
industry and it came out in our recent discussions that both the
companies they are working for is using Fedora on their systems. They
remarked that they had no idea that Red Hat was involved in Fedora.
I still meet people in various places who think Red Hat has stopped
working on a free distribution after Red Hat Linux 9 and continue to use
it or worse a earlier version.
I just looked within Fedora to see if there was any hint and couldn't
really find any prominent ones. The note on http://fedoraproject.org is
also easily missed. Is this a deliberate decision? Should there be some
of co-branding within the distribution and a prominent hint in other places?
Something like Fedora - Powered by Red Hat/ Sponsored by Red Hat or some
such.
Rahul
15 years, 2 months
Board public meeting, 2008-04-01 UTC 1800
by Paul W. Frields
Apologies for the late notice:
The Board is holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 01 April
2008, at 1800 UTC on IRC Freenode. The public is invited to do the
following:
* Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. This
channel is read-only for non-Board members.
* Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions. This
channel is read/write for everyone.
We found that in the last meeting the Board members, by joining the
#f-b-public channel, inadvertently drove some discussion away from the
meeting logged in #f-b-meeting. This time around we will not join that
channel, and rely entirely on our gracious moderator Max Spevack to
direct questions to #f-b-meeting for us to answer. This routine should
limit confusion and make sure our logs are useful to everyone.
The Board has set aside the first meeting of each month as a public
"town hall" style meeting. We are hoping to do an audio-based meeting
at some point in the near future when resources allow. We look forward
to seeing you at the meeting.
Paul W. Frields
Chairman, Fedora Project Board
Fedora Project Leader
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15 years, 2 months
SSS stewarding
by Karsten Wade
11:54 < stickster> This is what we get for not pruning as we go for so long.
11:54 < gregdek> Well, considering that this is clearly already being handled by the docs
team, maybe we just kill this work item altogether.
11:54 < stickster> i.e. lots of work all at once to accomplish painful but important goal
:-)
11:54 < stickster> gregdek: I think that makes sense.
11:54 < stickster> Or at least reference it and make it clearly a Docs task
Sure, there is some clear ownership of this page in a technical sense --
how it is constructed, the wiki nature, process rules, etc. The
*content* within this structure is another matter:
* Some comes from something that is like a Beat Summary, a short few
paragraphs for each beat or beat area that can be reused in release
notes and press kits.
* Some is pure Marketing owned -- the Project Overview, for example,
that talks about mission, governorship, etc.
* Technical content and quality assurance comes through Docs, from
various parts of the project (including writers within Docs itself)
In order to get something concreted on the Marketing tasks, we'll need
to suss out the structure a bit more, I reckon. Paul has kindly agreed
to help, since he and I sort-of have the only brain between us that
understands how this all might work.
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15 years, 2 months
Mandriva supports eee
by Valent Turkovic
http://justingill.com/blog/2008/03/18/mandriva-linux-spring-2008-release-...
Interesting article.
I know there is eeedora but that is not an official fedora spin but a
project maintained by only one eee and fedora user [1]
Are there any plans to support eeedora project? there are milions of
eee sold and although xandros has made a nice UI for it the base
system has lost of issues if users want to install new software
(apt-get dependency hell because of conflicting xandros, debian,
ubuntu and eee repos).
Cheers,
Valent.
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15 years, 2 months
Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora private mirrors for Sri Lanka
by Danishka Navin
Hi Matt,
Thanks for your quick responce. :)
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Matt Domsch <matt(a)domsch.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:54:26AM +0530, Danishka Navin wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Currently I'm handling Free-media project for Sri Lanka, and
> Maintaining
> > Sinhala language for the Fedora.
> > But I relized that Free-media project is not a total solution for a
> > distribution.
> > Sometimes we are busy with our work. And the Form activation is only
> one
> > day per month.
> > But still Free-media project is good. But we can go ahead.
> >
> > I have proposed to Sri Lanka Linux community to have private mirrors
> on
> > each and every university.
> > Its the 1st phase. As the the 2nd phase putting Fedora mirror on the
> Sri
> > Lanka School-net, thats is the official VPN for all the schools in
> Sri
> > Lanka.
> >
> > Please provide a rough idea of space, connectivity and bandwidth
> assuming
> > a test case like this.
> >
> > you host latest stable release
> > synchronize every two weeks
> > 100 regular users per university
>
> The full Fedora 8 install tree is 88GB, including the ppc arch and
> debuginfo packages, which you may not need. If only carrying i386 and
> x86_64, and no debuginfo, it's 39GB.
>
> The updates tree for Fedora 8 is another 47GB including ppc and
> debuginfo, 16GB if not.
>
> The releases tree changes only every 6 months (excluding test
> releases). The updates tree should be synced daily.
>
> Budgeting 200GB for Fedora 9 is not too much, especially as we've been
> growing the releases over time. I expect the full install tree to be
> 120GB, and over time the updates tree will grow as it has with Fedora
> 8.
>
> We have no public mirrors registered for Sri Lanka, and would
> appreciate having some. We have only 2 public mirrors in India
> (presumably where your users are pulling from today).
yeah,
We I am planning proposed to www.sltidc.lk for a public mirror. :)
>
> As for bandwidth required, we recommend no less than 10Mbit/sec, and
> prefer 100Mbit/sec or higher if available. Often times educational
> networks will have even higher available bandwidth inside a single
> university or between universities.
>
Now all major universities are connected to LEARN network (University VLAN )
via a Optical Fiber having a bandwidth of at least 10Mbps.
And hope to host internal mirror at one of the University and others can
sync from that.
>
>
> > My ultimate target is to cover each and every academic and region IT
> > centers in Sri Lanka.
>
> That would be fantastic.
>
> > Appreciate you earliest response.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Danishka Navin
>
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
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> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring
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