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Interesting quote from Sun/MySQL
by Paul W. Frields 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/07/oscon_pt_31_mys.h… "Sometimes we've had people say 'Why don't we do the Fedora model?' Well, we're at such an early stage of OSI adoption that there needs to be a conscious level of experimentation -- business models, licenses, products -- in order to foster the next generation of innovation. And that thrashing around is OK. We want to encourage that level of experimentation. Maybe it puts a bit more burden on IT to understand the subtleties of these licenses, but the payoff is high and the effort is not exorbitant." * * * Note carefully the implication here: that the way Red Hat and Fedora interact and complement each other is what you do when you've *finished* thrashing around, and want to do open source business right. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Re: T-shirt design feed back
by Paul W. Frields 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 18:08 -0500, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > Paul W. Frields escribió: > > Yes, I would like to avoid setting up a bunch of new slogans all at the > > same time. At the same time, I realize that the alliteration ("f" at > > the beginning of all the words) won't work outside English, for which I > > apologize. But the *ideas* are strong, so translating those words > > directly would still be powerful, I think. > > > > Part of the power of a slogan comes from using it consistently. If > > everyone makes their own, how do we tell the difference between the > > unofficial ones and the official one? Frankly, I'd rather see T-shirts > > not reflect any slogan, just the branding (logo) and website. > > > > > > Hello Paul. > > Regarding the 4 foundations, maybe they should be better exposed in the > Wiki. Just ran a quick search of the Wiki for a mixed variations of the > words "4 foundations", "four foundations" and "foundations" and of all > results I couldn't get one which linked to the main article explaining > those. Also it may be a good idea to advertise them in the font page for > the Wiki, since they're the basic idea upon which Fedora ideals and > values revolve. Maybe this has already been done and I simply didn't > browse or search the *right* places. I wanted to do see an explanation > for them as it may better aid with translations other than "Freedom = > Libertad", "Friendship = Amistad", etc, but putting the full reasoning > behind the words, just like it was the case when these words were chosen > to be the foundations ;-) > > I appologize to reply to this thread here instead of addressing this on > a more appropriate channel (Marketing?) This is a good point! I did a search for "infinity freedom voice" and also got no page saying those are official slogans. :-\ This really needs a page on the wiki, like Marketing/Slogans. Unfortunately I'm stranded at a hotel where the network is horrible. (The search I just did? Took 7.5 minutes, whereas it normally takes only a few seconds.) I'm forwarding this to f-marketing-l where we can mark it as an action item in our next meeting. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Re: Poster revision
by wonderer 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

Nicu Buculei schrieb: > wonderer wrote: >> >> Maybe the text to the video can modified, other pictures can be >> taken, but I think we have some of the same intentions... I fully >> agree not TO much take from "the great company with the fruit >> Logo...", but I think we can learn much of this add. >> So, maybe we could have one "Theme", one Artwork (maybe for F11) and >> draw around that Posters, Wallpapers, Icons and video adds ... just >> my 2 Cents ;-) > > The *one theme* is "freedom, friends, features, first". That are words, but no theme ;-) What do we want to buidl around it? Should there be a thing like the BSD fish or the Budweiser frogs and lizzard, what would we connect with the 4 foundations? What "pictures" would we compare with that? Does the first friend of Fedora features freedom around the world or does the first freedom we have on our computers was featured from fedora? Would we like to build a theme around the words or should the words stand for themself? Questions I like to throw in the round ... Another idea: paint some cute little "things" and name them fed ora and fed ori and let them play some comics (I saw some great stuff from some fedora-Artists ;-) )... Another idea: Interview with lets say a guy on the street. question to him: "Do you have a Computer?" He (young guy): "of course. I play games <see WoW or another game> do my homework <he is typing and googeling> and chating <ICQ2000 whatever> and some music <see emule!>" ** (backgroundmusic: some snippets of MTV & Co.) --- Question: are you Ok with that? He (thinking): <you see violent Pictures of he while he crashes his computers. It does not work, Pics from "Windows has occured an error " Bluescreen, etc. ... on emule show some FBI guy> ** backgroundmusic: Techno, Hardrock, etc. --- cut fade-in --- Fedora Logo freedom | friends | features | first (smoothly fade in, no music) --- cut (blackout) --- same situationn (Interviewer on street) Interviewer want to ask a bunch of people, they are laughing, have penguin shirts or so <same question> One of the guy: shure I have a computer. I use it for games <show a big screen with start of a Linux game> ... homework and study things <googeling, wikipedia, etc.> ... chatting <show pidgin or so> and music <show mediaplayer playing some cc music> Question: are you Ok with that? the guys (look at each other): yes. --- fadeout --- showing Fedora logo with URL best regards Henrik

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Intel's Moblin dumps Ubuntu in favor of Fedora
by Rahul Sundaram 27 Jul '08

27 Jul '08

Hi, Interesting move from Intel. Let's hope they start contributing to Fedora more. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/23/moblin_reworked/ Digg It: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Intel_s_Moblin_dumps_Ubuntu_in_favor_of_Fedora "Under the changes, the existing Ubuntu-based kernel is out and Fedora is in, along with a set of Gnome-compatible mobile components that updates Moblin's previous Gnome implementation. Dirk Hohndel, Intel's director of Linux and open-source strategy, told The Reg there was no falling out with Ubuntu, but the move to Fedora was a technical decision based on the desire to adopt RPM for package management." Rahul

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SlideDeck Request
by David Nalley 26 Jul '08

26 Jul '08

Hi All - I come bearing a request from the NA Ambassadors Meeting. I have gone through the existing presentations and they are either outdated or target the wrong presenter level that we are looking for. Essentially we are looking for stuff that we can hand a new contributor/ambassador, walk them through once (perhaps remotely) and have them relatively comfortable presenting. Essentially we'd like 2 updated slide decks. We'd like something akin to a F9 Features Slide Deck - something similar to what Jesse Keating had here: http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/presentations/lfnw-fedora-9-sneakpeek.odp - but maybe tuned down a bit to fit with what someone new to contributing to the Fedora Project would be comfortable presenting. As an aside we'll probably ask for another slide deck when F10 gets close doing the same thing. Especially once Feature Freeze happens. Actually - I just went and looked at the schedule - Feature Freeze is 8/19 - so maybe we want to do a F10 Sneak Peek instead and skip F9 altogether - we can modify that to F10 Feature relatively easily. The other slide deck we'd like to have is a "Four Foundations" presentation - again something that a relatively new Fedora Ambassador could pull off presenting. Explain Freedom, Friends, Features, First. Basically a user and perhaps a contributor recruitment slide deck that explains why the Four Foundations makes unique. I realize that there are precious few people to do work and probably far more important things and if necessary we'll retreat and try to generate ourselves, but we had no one immediately jump forward. I am open to feedback or suggestions on this idea - so please feel free. Thanks David Nalley

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General information About Fedora
by Oybek Nuriddinov 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hello everybody! > I have a few questions for you, if you know please fill it. > > 1.How many decision makers does Fedora have? > 2. By whom is Fedora funded? > 3. How many members of Fedora > 4. Is desktop environment in KDE or in GNOME? > > Thank you. >

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Video: Fedora Live
by Rahul Sundaram 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hi, Red Hat Enterprise Linux customers can build the future with Fedora! http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/07/23/video-fedora-live/ "Paul Frields (Fedora Project Leader) sits down to discuss the Live USB feature debuted in Fedora 9 with developer Jeremy Katz. See a live demo of the persistent desktop, and find out how to get more involved in the next Fedora release." Rahul

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Linux Symposium Proceedings Available
by Rahul Sundaram 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hi, The OLS Proceedings from 2001-2008, as well as the GCC Summit Proceedings from 2003-2008, are now available at http://ols.fedoraproject.org This includes the full-volume PDFs that went to print, as well as copies of individual papers. Rahul

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Zimbra Leverages Red Hat Exchange to Navigate License Issue
by Rahul Sundaram 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Hi, http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/07/24/zimbra-leverages-red-hat-exchange-to… The Red Hat Exchange team requested that Fedora review the YPL as part of its efforts to assist Zimbra with contributing to Fedora. Fedora reviewed the license and was concerned that the termination provisions of the YPL could be read to limit licensees’ rights in such a way that would make the YPL not a true open source license. The RHX team helped facilitate a discussion between Zimbra/Yahoo! and the Red Hat and Fedora teams. The resulting feedback helped produce a minor change in the wording of the license which was acceptable to Fedora. Rahul

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Ring. Ring. It's Fedora calling
by Rahul Sundaram 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Hi, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9998526-16.html Red Hat's Fedora Project has announced several cool things this week. The first was Intel's defection from Ubuntu to use Fedora in its Moblin (Mobile Linux Internet Project). Intel's Dirk Hohndel billed it as driven by the project's preference for Fedora's RPM-based packaging system, but it's still significant, given Ubuntu's momentum in mobile. But the most interesting Fedora announcement may well have had nothing to do with its code, and everything to do with the process that creates that code. I'm referring to Fedora Talk, a voice-over-IP system that "allows Fedora contributors to use any standard VoIP hardware or software to sign into the Fedora system and make and receive calls to other Fedora contributors." Rahul

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