With the Alpha Release for Fedora 11 scheduled for Tuesday, February 3,
2009, this means it is time to meet again with representatives from each
of the teams to have our release readiness meeting. We usually have
this meeting at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST) the Wednesday before, which means
next Wednesday, January 28, 2009, is the day.
On Monday, January 26, 2009, I will be sending out the dial-in
information and a meeting reminder to all the attendees.
In the meantime I need to know who will be representing your group at
these meetings for the Fedora 11 meetings. Usually this is the
designated team leader, but I wanted to ask to make sure you coordinate
within your team to make sure someone comes. When responding to this
list, please CC me so that I am sure to see the reply.
This message is going out to the respective mailings lists for these groups:
"According to current plans, version 11 of Fedora, which is expected to
arrive in late May, will use Ext4 as its standard file system. That's
what the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) recently decided,
following a heated discussion in an IRC meeting. If however Ext3's
successor encounters big problems with the pre-release versions of
Fedora 11, the developers will dump that plan and revert to Ext3."
After the recent acceptance of Btrfs into the main Linux development
tree, chosen by some well known Linux file system developers as the
"next generation filesystem" for Linux, the Fedora developers didn't
wait and have already included support for Btrfs in Fedora Rawhide. So
now, users of the Fedora development tree, which is updated virtually
daily, can already play around with this still experimental file system,
without having to grapple with compiling the kernel and suitable user
We will be meeting tomorrow The 22nd of January 2009.
When: 19.00 UTC, 2pm Eastern Time, 11am Pacific, 21:00 Athens.
Where: irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting
What: The task list @ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks
I would really like to focus on updates to the picture book and the
progress on the video. I think next week we will start serious
consideration regarding the magazine.
See you all then,
"One of the nicest things about FOSS is that when you're really doing it
right, when you're contributing code and changes back to the upstream,
everyone benefits. So, from that perspective, we really don't feel like
we're competing with other Linux distributions that are contributing
their changes upstream. With Windows or Mac, I think there is a certain
amount of friendly competition, but we're really just trying to build a
better product with a better ideology. FOSS conquers by being faster,
better, and free, there is no need for a conscious plan to destroy
Windows, because, then what? Besides, we get some of our best ideas by
simply avoiding Microsoft's mistakes. Hehe."
Is not a secret that our world passes for a critical time: excessive
pollution, the indiscriminate felling of trees, the irrational use of
natural resources, global warming and many other things that have made me
wonder what can we do?
Lot of people including informatics and people relationed with technology
thinks is this a location outside and cant do anything. But it is always
possible make a grand of sand... everybody can save the world.
- Fedora promotes some kind of ecology? We do not need strict recycling
policies or abstinence, from simple things like "the last person exiting
please turn off the light."
- In development policies Fedora how we save? Reuse of software
components is a very common practice. Can we measure it? Can we save more?
- Promote the use of the Live USB Creator. How well would you do if
instead of burning the CD / DVD, use the Live USB Creator using your own
memory stick? Think about this: every 6 months with each release hundreds of
discs become obsolete. The USB is a way certainly more rational
- What features are in Fedora that promote energy savings? Personally I
think that Fedora should come with default saving policies stricter starting
turning off the monitor instead of darkening the screen.
- What features could be included in Fedora that promote saving and
efficiency of the system?
- Planting trees at least 3 for each server 24 / 7 that we have. (Thanks
to Fedora Brazil)
With this in mind, Fedora could be promoted not only as a operating system
friendly to the planet, this reinforces the sense of community, Fedora user
is not only a computer user is a good citizen.
Now, discussing this inside Latam Community, we have agreed create the
Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect (Fedora Cero Carbono in spanish). The objetive
starting from this simple ideas (and a lot of what we have had) is a campain
promoving Fedora looking to the racional use of resorces and good job
The Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect was originally created and promoved by
Rodrigo Padula of Fedora Brazil to reduce the CO2 contamination
(congratulations!) and now Latam Community with all this ideas are in the
same way... our world.
So, what do think? Fedora takes care about the planet?
Fedora Ambassador for Colombia
Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.27 + Gnome 2.22
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I have an idea and some thoughts about getting more contributors into
the Fedora project (sub-projects and SIGs).
I have 5 years experience working in a larger (30,000 employees) Telco
company trying to get a lot of those people involved in Open Source.
What I've learned is the following:
1) ..does not know what Open Source is or/and..
2) ..have a wrong idea of what Open Source is or/and..
3) ..is afraid of Open Source.
So I was thinking, what can convince most people like this, that joining
up and contributing to Fedora is a good idea?
Joining an Open Source project is something pretty abstract, if you
don't know much or anything at all about what Open Source or an Open
Source project is.
So, I thought you bright guys and girls at Marketing could think
something up :-)
My initial thought was to somehow give people an easy-to-take-in insight
into the Fedora Project - making it possible for people to understand
how to contribute.
* Feature some fun key and non-key people - What they do, the story how
they became a contributor.
* Fun and inspiring pictures from conferances and etc.
Making contribution to the Fedora project less abstract. Showing people
who is behind the logo.. and what it could be to be a part of the Fedora
This may be information that is easy to access from fedoraproject.org
main page and information that ambassadors may distribute or refer to.
Magnus 'magnusg' Glantz
E-mail: mg -at- hacka -dot- net
GPG Key: 0DB53317
First, I would like to wish you all Happy New Year 2009 with my best wishes.
Happy reading as well :)
== Abstract ==
Xuropa, a new company offering online virtual trade shows for the EDA
community, will be offering Fedora an "Online Lab" space for FEL. This
"Online Lab" package ( the most expensive package ) will be free for
Fedora and Xuropa will offer a paypal addon where people can donate to
Asking Fedora Board's approval to procede.
== About Xuropa ==
Xuropa is a new company focussing on building an online EDA community
around commercial and opensource EDA tools. With its platform, the
community can evaluate different tools, give presentations about one's
EDA software and identify the most appropriate software for his/her
== About the Online Lab ==
This youtube video describes the "Online Lab" package and how a
subscribed user can acess FEL on Xuropa
Among the 4 packages (Online Kiosk,Online Booth,Online Suite and
Online Lab), Online Lab is the most expensive in accordance to:
This package includes :
# Secure invite-only access to your products
# Remote product beta-testing
# Remote product training
# Remote product evaluations
The above video demonstrate what "remote" here means and how training
and beta testing can be carried out.
There will be no FEL download from Xuropa's website.
== Marketing ==
With our FEL LiveDVD, we
- bring electronic engineers/students closer to opensource community
- do marketing for our upstream projects such as gEDA/gaf,
Now with this Online Lab we can bring FEL to the "next level" and give
upstream more chances to post their papers and do presentations via
Xuropa's platform simulate an online conference hall.
In other words like it is like an event /forum, but online. Every
exhibitor has its booth(with a fee) and presentation, but online to
help networking between ASIC engineers.
Though, with this exhibition strategy, I am obeying all Fedora ground
rules, I'm requesting again the usage of Fedora trademark to market
fedora and its packages. Thereby, I also like to precise there will
only be packages approved and built on our dear koji.
As you know, my intention about FEL is NOT about packaging electronics
tools for fedora, but to centralize(in fedora) _most_ electronic tools
to create design flows for micro-nano electronics and help opensource
developers to improve and distribute their tools with respect to
electronic industry trends. Thereby this means encourage upstreams to
communicate with other upstreams and help them market their software
for the real world.
In the electronics world, opensource EDA tools we have are far from
the professional environment where huge companies spend billions of
dollars in research and development. Hence with Xuropa, FEL enters the
big world of electronics where those multi-billions EDA vendors are,
to give our upstream projects room to market themselves through FEL.
== Donation feature ==
Xuropa's cofounder proposes a "donation" paypal feature for which they
will take a percentage of it. I'm ok with it. My question is, is
Fedora Board you ok with it ?
They would then collect funds and wire to "us" 85% of the proceeds
after expenses (paypal's and hardware and license costs). This may
not be very much to start, but it will build over time. However, if we
are lucky, I guess we will get $100.
I nominate MaxSpevack to be in charge of all money transaction, since
he manages Fedora's budget already. IF we do happen to get lucky,
maybe it would be nice to use "Fedora Scholarship" to get more
contributors to FEL :)
== How Fedora benefit from this ==
The Online Lab as the above youtube video demonstrates, subscribers
can access a Fedora session and use the FEL applications, rate, give
feedbacks and get familiar to FEL without download and installation.
It is a chance to show the quality-class distribution Fedora is and
what a Fedora user can achieve with FEL.
Companies willing to opensource their inhouse tools/scripts will more
likely use Fedora as a means to bring new features to the opensource
EDA tools on Fedora.
- Xuropa will provide FEL for others to use on their servers. (if
people like it, they will download it and promote/rate it)
- Many Field Application Engineers will hear Fedora for the first time.
- opensource EDA tools will be on the same rank as commercial tools in
terms of people mindset about "it's free it's not that good"
- more eda bloggers will blog about industry class opensource tools
such as perl-Verilog*, gtkwave, tkdiff
- We will have more concrete real life suggestions for improvements
from big names. We FEL contributors will learn from their experience
and leadership skills
- (I hope) FEL developers will grant access to some confidential
publications for free :) I hope
- all this depends on how we(FEL) can help to shape the opensource EDA
community to work together.
- and what I wish the most, help big EDA vendors license their
opensource tools in a free distribuable way and use FEL as a means to
- more linux support from the chip vendors (if you look at the
websites of maxim-ic or linear technology,.. ) they provide free tools
to use with their chips. Chip samples anyone can order for free. But it is
sad that their tools can't be run under linux.
Lots of tiny things like that FEL will benefit from and make others
benefit from it.
I know it is a long shot, but we all know there is a need to satisfy
and I believe we can do step by step. We will hit walls for sure, but
we will also have bright days ahead of us.
CAD engineers who send time evaluating beta versions of vendors tools
on RedHat/CentOS will follow what the next RHEL will provide.
== How Upstream projects benefit from this ==
- More chances that in-house tools or scripts will be opensourced by companies.
- More chances upstream tools will have contributors who are willing
to shape opensource tools for real life usage
- More chances for free marketing or maybe sponsoring
- A means to make presentations to the masses via our presence on Xuropa.
(more during fosdem)
I hope Fedora Board will see this as an opportunity to help both our
upstream projects and our new Fedora users.