April 2010 - [MOVED TO DISCOURSE] Fedora Marketing - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tag/marketing

Why Linux isn't attracting young developers
by Nelson Marques 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

Though this seems to be a very specific article, it is still valid, and the most interesting is actually the replies its having. http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/04/18/1557220/Why-Linux-Is-Not-Attractin… In case someone wants to check it out, I recommend it. And yes, this is deeply related and a good source for Marketing people 8)

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[in the news] Fedora taps Zarafa open source groupware for 13
by Kara Schiltz 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

ZDNet 4.19.10 Fedora taps Zarafa open source groupware for 13 By Paula Rooney Fedora’s selection of Zarafa as an open source groupware component in Fedora 13 is very interesting. The beta of Fedora 13, code named “Goddard,” was made available on April 13. The final version is expected in mid May. Red Hat sponsors the open source Linux project and has toyed with the idea of integrating email and calendaring capabilities into its Linux stack from time to time. Novell, of course, promotes its own GroupWise but also endorses other open source offerings for its Linux distribution. Full post: http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=6298

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Meeting minutes 2010-04-20
by Mel Chua 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

Short version: we're in good shape. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-04-20/fedora-meeting… and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#2010 Meeting summary --------------- * FI status update (mchua, 20:02:04) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight (mchua, 20:05:18) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assi… (mchua, 20:07:43) * 4/22 is the go/no-go meeting for Fedora Insight (mchua, 20:10:17) * check out the tickets queue above to see open blockers (mchua, 20:10:24) * Insight go/no-go meeting IRC Freenode #fedora-mktg on Thursdays at 2pm US Eastern time. (mchua, 20:10:39) * further discussion on Fedora Insight to be moved to the logistics@ list (mchua, 20:12:48) * we will have a "how did this go?" feedback session with Allegheny folks after the release/semester ends, just fyi (mchua, 20:15:47) * Deliverables update (mchua, 20:15:51) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_feature_profiles (mchua, 20:18:01) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/91 (mchua, 20:18:55) * Python is slated for 4/27, and Hardware enablements for users on 5/4. (mchua, 20:19:05) * remaining profiles - boot.fp.o, btrfs (interview done today, yay Allegheny!), networkmanager (pretty much done, it looks like), SSSD, rpm 4.8 (mchua, 20:19:53) * LINK: http://press.redhat.com/2010/04/20/fedora-13-spotlight-feature-networkmanag… (rbergeron, 20:20:30) * NetworkManager feature profile has been shipped (mchua, 20:20:56) * LINK: http://press.redhat.com/2010/04/20/fedora-13-spotlight-feature-networkmanag… (mchua, 20:21:16) * Python will get same treatment 4/27, and hw enablements 5/4 (stickster, 20:21:21) * ACTION: mchua add "status" column to feature profiles table (mchua, 20:21:41) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_one_page_release_notes (mchua, 20:22:47) * currently a draft/stub: needs cleanup, screenshots, layout (mchua, 20:23:08) * ACTION: mchua ask Allegheny class to sprint on one-page relnotes during Thursday's class (mchua, 20:24:19) * ACTION: mchua see if we can get the Allegheny students working on Design team tickets to take this one (mchua, 20:25:36) * Ambassadors briefing (links to Marketing deliverables) email will be done by 5/11, ship after readiness meeting green light on 5/12 (mchua, 20:28:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F13Blocker (stickster, 20:29:28) * ACTION: mchua make sure we have the ambassadors email written up by 5/11 (mchua, 20:30:04) * ACTION: mchua turn remaining deliverables into tickets (mchua, 20:30:09) * ACTION: rrix run point on final release announcement (mchua, 20:33:22) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_press_kit (mchua, 20:36:14) * press kit does not have a hard release deadline (mchua, 20:36:20) * ACTION: mchua check in with wonderer on press kit status (mchua, 20:36:35) * other non-release-deliverable projects: microblogging, video sharing, spins webpages (mchua, 20:37:29) * ACTION: mchua make sure we get spins pages done in time (mchua, 20:38:37) * IDEA: make sure spins pages are on some team's release deliverables list next cycle (mchua, 20:39:03) * ACTION: ianweller nag our 4 featured spins owners (mchua, 20:41:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Press_kits (stickster, 20:41:51) Meeting ended at 20:46:11 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mchua add "status" column to feature profiles table * mchua ask Allegheny class to sprint on one-page relnotes during Thursday's class * mchua see if we can get the Allegheny students working on Design team tickets to take this one * mchua make sure we have the ambassadors email written up by 5/11 * mchua turn remaining deliverables into tickets * rrix run point on final release announcement * mchua check in with wonderer on press kit status * mchua make sure we get spins pages done in time * ianweller nag our 4 featured spins owners

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Keyword Optimization on FP / Self-Introduction: Garland Binns
by Garland Binns 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Hi Everyone, My name is Garland. I've been looking through fedoraproject.org and I noticed that there isn't a ton of keyword optimization. There definitely appears to be a lot of potential for increasing our rank and penetration within the search engines, hence, bringing us more relevant traffic and potential users/contributors. For example, the core pages that appear in the top left of the home page (Home, Get Fedora, Join Fedora, Help) all have the same title tag and no meta description - they also don't appear to be well-optimized for any keywords other than the phrase Fedora Project. By changing this not only could we increase exposure by inserting additional highly sought after keywords, this would also give us the opportunity for these main pages to appear independently on the same page of search results, giving us more page share leaving less room for other results that could be siphoning potential visitors. Just the word "linux" alone, has many variants that are currently generating hundreds of thousands of searches each month. With a little work we could start taking advantage of this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1673758/linux_keyword_ideas_20100420_1535408.csv Here is another spreadsheet which also has many variants: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1673758/linux_distro_keyword_ideas_20100420_1739862… Just the term "linux iso" is used approximately 200,000 times in searches worldwide each month. These are people that already know how to create discs to distribute. We are nowhere to be found on any of the search engines because none of our pages are optimized for this term. Wouldn't it be a good thing if people were able to see a link to Get Fedora when they were searching for a linux iso? I would love to collaborate and join the Marketing Team to come up with a plan for taking advantage of these opportunities. With that said, here's my Mad Lib: Hi, my name is Garland Binns and I live in Chicago, IL. My Fedora Account System (FAS) username is gbinns, and my IRC nick is gbinns. I learned about the Fedora Marketing team through the Websites Team, and am interested in joining because I'm a full time Internet marketing professional, web developer, and project manager. This is the first FOSS project I have worked on, however, I've administered and implemented many different marketing projects and programs in the past in other arenas, specifically related to email, SEO, SEM, SMM. and the Internet. My skills, which I hope to utilize in Fedora Marketing, include: (Marketing Skills) - Email/SEO/SEM/SMM (Other Skills) - Project Management/Web Design/Web Development I'd also like to learn more about Linux-based programming languages. When I'm not working on Fedora, I am working full-time at Media Rake, Inc., which is a company that helps businesses grow online. A couple of goals I have for the Fedora Project are expanding its reach to convert people to Fedora like myself, who have frequently relied on Windows and OSX in the past when it comes to computing, and seeing Fedora become the number one distro on the Internet. I am wondering if I can join the Marketing Team. Please help me get started! Sincerely, Garland -- Garland Binns: Media Rake, Inc. - Digital Landscape Architects Phone: (646) 867-2335 | Fax: (877) 329-3410 | Web: www.mediarake.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/garlandbinns Twitter: www.twitter.com/garlandbinns DISCLAIMER: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you are not the named addressee(s), you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system(s). Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free, as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Media Rake, Inc. and the sender do not accept liability for any errors and/or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of email transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. All physical correspondence should be written with attention to the sender and addressed to Media Rake, Inc., 2019 N. Whipple St., Chicago, IL 60647, United States of America.

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BTRFS feature profile interview log
by Hannah Kowen 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Here is the log from the BTRFS interview. Thanks again, Josef. I'm going to start working on edits. -Hannah Kowen (12:06:19 PM) zodbot: Meeting ended Tue Apr 20 16:06:16 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (12:06:21 PM) zodbot: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-04-20/fedora-meeting… (12:06:23 PM) zodbot: Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-04-20/fedora-meeting… (12:06:25 PM) zodbot: Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-04-20/fedora-meeting…

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Re: In the news: Zarafa
by Jan Wildeboer 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

As long as it doesn't becom Fedora investing time and ressources on correcting and defending openCore companies, fine with me. I still would advice Zarafa to call the opensource version different. Makes all of our lives easier. But that is mid-term and up to Zarafa. Short term we should try to set it right where needed by commenting and talking to authors of articles. But we should focus more on the true goodies of Fedora. Zarafa is - as you said - only one of them. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Tue Apr 20 15:01:34 2010 Subject: Re: In the news: Zarafa Hi Jan, Am Dienstag, 20. April 2010 19:47:22 schrieb Jan Wildeboer: > Now I am not in the "told you so" department, but it unfolds as I > expected. > Not much we can do now without harming either Fedora or Zarafa. Harm? This sounds dramatized. Fedora is in the press with zarafa as a feature - and we disussed pro and contra already a lot. It is easy to oppose and disagree on new contributions - i know that it is part of your job at Red Hat to be a "pain" to non-FOSS Vendors ;) - but Fedora is about enable and encourage people to contribute and i want to see that Press, Users, - the world - get the right message - i already explained in detail why it is good that a community driven feature should advertised [1] Clarification and truth have nothing to do with harming - it is about enlighten them and evangelize them to spread it right. We talk about FOSS Software here and it seems Paul clarified things already to the author. cu Joerg [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-April/012472.html -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Re: In the news: Zarafa
by Jan Wildeboer 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Now I am not in the "told you so" department, but it unfolds as I expected. Not much we can do now without harming either Fedora or Zarafa. Maybe Zarafa can think of renaming the open source edition just as fedora v RHEL? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> To: marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Tue Apr 20 12:04:28 2010 Subject: In the news: Zarafa So, Zarafa is getting a lot of press attention: http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=6298 some of it is fairly unflattering: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3877446/Fedora-13-Beta-Th… I'm a bit uncomfortable with this myself; the availability of Zarafa in Fedora seems to be being read in ways in which we certainly didn't intend it (as an aspect of commercialization, as some kind of Red Hat-parachuted feature and hence an indication of RH's future directions, etc). I'm wondering if perhaps we should pull Zarafa's mention as a 'feature' of Fedora 13, or if not that, then certainly develop a more coherent story about its inclusion, what it's for, why it's in Fedora, and the whole 'open core' angle on it... What do people think? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks
by John Poelstra 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Start End Name Tue 20-Apr Tue 27-Apr Update and freeze the screen shots page Tue 27-Apr Tue 04-May Marketing: Final One Page Release Notes Tue 27-Apr Tue 04-May Brief news distribution network Tue 27-Apr Tue 04-May Marketing: Final Screen Shots Tue 27-Apr Mon 07-Jun Monitor news sites to provide corrections & info Mon 03-May Tue 11-May Create GA Announcement (Docs & Marketing)

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Google Adwords - not sure if off-topic
by Nelson Marques 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

I had a small chat with a close friend of mine that is Marketing Director in an Italian group represented in Portugal. We had some weird talk about Adword, and it actually I've seen some very weird stats. I've never worked with Adwords before, I am not even aware if Fedora does it, but this was interesting to analyse. They bought some words on adwords and placed a small budget. They bought their usual words, and the most fun part, their competitors words. Strangely, they got roughly 40% of the hits incoming from searches from their competitors. For their case, that strategy seems to work fine (Ceramic Industry). Not sure if the same could apply to us, or even if we use adwords, in case we do and are not exploring it that way, I would suggest a test on it for some "relevant" statistical data. Just a thought... nelson

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Re: Btrfs feature profile
by Mel Chua 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

On 04/19/2010 10:14 AM, Josef Bacik wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:07:23AM -0400, Hannah Kowen wrote: >> Excellent. Tuesday at 11am it is then. I guess IRC would work best, but if >> you still want to do an audio interview, that can work too. Thanks, Hannah >> > > IRC is perfect, my nick is josef. Thanks, > > Josef Looks like you're off to a great start. :) Since the rest of the Allegheny students will probably be working and asking questions in #fedora-mktg at that time, might I suggest holding the interview in #fedora-meeting-1? This is because #fedora-meeting is going to be taken by the BugZapper team, according to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings, and so that you can use zodbot (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot) to log the conversation. Cheers, --Mel

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Re: Btrfs feature profile
by Hannah Kowen 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Excellent. Tuesday at 11am it is then. I guess IRC would work best, but if you still want to do an audio interview, that can work too. Thanks, Hannah On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Josef Bacik <josef(a)redhat.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:16:08PM -0400, Hannah Kowen wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > The best time for an interview is Thursday between 11am and 12pm Eastern > > time or next Tuesday April 20 at the same time can work as well. Which > ever > > medium of interview is most convenient for both Chris and Josef is fine > with > > me, please just let me know. And if neither of those times work, we can > set > > up another time. > > > > I'm excited to learn more about Btrfs and thanks for your time. > > > > Heh sorry, got distracted again. Obviously today is out, but next Tuesday > works > for me whenever. Thanks, > > Josef >

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Fedora, Videos, and the Outside World
by Nicholas Ozorak 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Dear Fedora Users, As some of you may have seen from my last email, I am an Allegheny Student working with some of my peers on video sharing strategies. These are some of our observations. Before this project, none of us had heard of Fedora, and many of us were new to the concept of open source. It stands to reason, then, that the general public may also be unaware of this type of software development. Some of the questions/issues that came up in our class were: *What is open source? *How do you explain the technology to those who do not understand tech-speak? *What are the advantages of using open source software? *What are the advantages of Fedora Project over other operating systems? *Are other programs (MS Office, games, etc) compatible with Fedora? *How does one acquire and install Fedora? *How does one contribute to the Fedora Project? Having videos that are easily accessible could help answer many of these questions. These could include: *How-to videos and tutorials *Interviews with people affiliated with Red Hat and Fedora users *Videos promoting how awesome Fedora is My peers and I agree that the best outlet for sharing videos with a large audience is YouTube. We are aware that some open source users are not inclined to share their videos on YouTube, but here is one way that Fedora Project could share both official and user-generated content. * Set up official Fedora Project accounts on websites like Internet Archive and Dailymotion. * Create videos on these accounts to establish them as being officially part of the Fedora Project (welcome videos, tutorials, features of Fedora, etc). * Designate people to be official Fedora Project Video Account Managers. * Allow other video creators and content developers to showcase their Fedora-related work on the official channel(s) by sending their video to the Account Master(s) for consideration. If accepted, these videos would be added to the official channel. * Open a YouTube account, and ask people if they are comfortable with having their work(s) displayed on YouTube and/or other Flash-based websites. Besides the one billion views that YouTube receives on a daily basis, the videos on YouTube have the largest potential to go viral. What that means is that someone unfamiliar with Fedora who saw videos about it on YouTube would be more inclined to share the video with others. Additionally, videos that are related to Fedora Project (for example, a random user's explanation of open source) may automatically link to videos posted on the official Fedora Project YouTube channel. Furthermore, if there were more videos pertaining to Fedora Project, they would appear higher on a page rank of a Google search. Ultimately, the videos that are released need to be easily accessible and informational enough to educate the general public on what exactly the Fedora Project is all about. Regards, Nick Ozorak, Kevin Thrope, Breanna Appleby, Eric Hansen, Hannah Matesic

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Fedora Marketing weekly meeting, Tuesday 20:00UTC #fedora-meeting-1
by Mel Chua 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Details and agenda at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings. See you folks there! --Mel

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Sunday's Fedora Insight / zikula sprint - meeting logs
by Robyn Bergeron 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Minutes at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-18/fedora-mktg.2010-04… Full logs at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-18/fedora-mktg.2010-04… ==================== #fedora-mktg Meeting ==================== Meeting started by gwerra at 15:37:49 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-18/fedora-mktg.2010-04… Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=Users&func=reg… (rbergeron, 15:42:33) * unregistered users cannot add comments -- they are asked to register/log in to do so. (stickster, 15:44:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight_Workflow#In_the_Future (stickster, 15:47:56) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2104#preview (stickster, 16:39:45) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2105 (stickster, 16:42:40) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2106#preview (stickster, 17:01:09) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2106#preview (gwerra, 17:01:57) * LINK: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula (rbergeron, 17:52:22) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new (rbergeron, 17:54:58) * LINK: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/ (rbergeron, 18:29:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2107 <-- listed on agenda too (stickster, 18:35:19) * LINK: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=Profile&func=v… (stickster, 19:21:23) * LINK: http://community.zikula.org/index.php?module=Wiki&tag=TranslationIndex (drak, 19:26:09) * LINK: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=Profile&func=v… <-- hmm, still not giving me joy (stickster, 19:27:41) * LINK: http://code.zikula.org/profile/browser/tags/Profile-1.5.2/locale/en/LC_MESS… (drak, 19:39:47) * LINK: http://fpaste.org/jFVe/ (stickster, 19:52:37) * LINK: http://code.zikula.org/core/ticket/1977 (drak, 21:25:17) * zikula style needs are in a ticket, and on agenda page. (rbergeron, 21:36:14) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2109 (rbergeron, 21:36:22) * zikula testing needs are on agenda page, and also on the wiki. (rbergeron, 21:36:37) * LINK: #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight_Testing (rbergeron, 21:36:55) Meeting ended at 21:37:07 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rbergeron (276) * stickster (250) * gwerra (159) * mateo (109) * drak (90) * herlo (33) * drak_ (31) * abadger1999 (12) * nmarques (5) * zodbot (3) * rrix (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Small question regardin Fedora
by Nelson Marques 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

A small question, when talking about Fedora, we should use it as male or female? In portuguese there is no genitive or "it", nouns always have gender, either male or female. One strange example is kernel, where it is refered often as male and other times as female 8) Anyway, this probably is more in the field of translation teams, but do we have anything set for this kind of situations ? nelson.

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Equinox Radiance Glass
by Nelson Marques 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Hey, Though this is redundant to this list or maybe not... I'm working on a remake of "Equinox Radiance Glass" GTK2+ theme. Basically what I'm trying to do is to have it looking like with the Fedora colors. This is something personal as I would realize that this might be too "Ubuntu" looking. Anyway, it's one of my favorite themes. For the artists hanging around, what would be the best colors to use to keep it the closest possible within the Fedora branding? I'm planning to have some minor modifications and inserts a metal color (most likely silver) for some more sophisticated looks. Anyone could point to some docs with RGB values of the Fedora branding? (I know I could hack Clearlooks or Fedora), but trying to be a bit more constructive. This is mainly a private thingie, but if it comes too look decent I wont mind doing the packaging for the future (despite of might be too close to "Ubuntish"). nelson

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Feature Profiles :: NetworkManager
by Nelson Marques 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

As most will know, I've got assigned with the NetworkManager Feature Profiles. To accomplish this, I would like to point the following: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Network_Manager_Workbench This is where I'm going to gather all the information I've collected. This is not in any way a final version or something that will remain for long. This is basically for me to work out a structure and later on will move the reviewed contents to the final destination that someone will provide me (Mel et all, could provide some input for the right place and designation for this?). Furthermore: * The screenshots are not definitive, it's just a caption of things I found relevant and might change depending on the interviews. * I will use this very same page to work the raw interview material (edited). Anyone has a though about where to place the un-edited material for later usage if needed ? * The screenshots do not hold valid information. No need to camp my house door for free internet, or to worry about something regarding it's information. * I've taken the screenshots on Fedora 12, with a vanilla user, using the vanilla pre-set artwork (GNOME + GTK Fedora Theme + Default pointer, etc). * Everyone is free to participate and edit (specially english native speakers, since English isn't my native language). * Any suggestions will be considered (most likely added/reviewed), I've kept a special place (end of page) for anyone's suggestions. Working on: - Gathering background information regarding NetworkManager. - Preparing Interviews for developers. - wiki skills. As always feel free to highlight and participate with comments, suggestions, information, critics and whatever you find relevant. Thanks all for surviving this wall of text. nmarques -- Nelson Marques Private Contact- 07721(a)ipam.pt

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Feature Profiles in Fedora 13 - SELinux
by Nelson Marques 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Good people, As I'm ending my Feature Profile on NetworkManager, and I volunteered for another Feature Profile, I've got suggestions from Mel... One of the spins or Zafara. The first sounds nice, but I'd rather focus on something else. The second, well, I am not on it's status on Fedora 13. Since we're running for Fedora 13 release, and I've spoken countless times about SELinux, despite of it's complexity (some say simplicity), I've decided to take the road of pain. My personal crusade: SELinux in Fedora 13. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELinux_in_Fedora_13 Be mindful that this will probably take some time. But I'm placing my efforts into it. I already have some nice information on my mailbox from my SWOT research, will need to take a more closer approach. There's also a great presentation about this technology, I'm going to contact the author asking if he allows me to use is base for my work. This presentation is like "SELinux for dummies". I will follow the same approach as I did for NetworkManager, and it should be turn out into something like this: 1. SELinux 1.1 - Technology 1.2 - Howto 1.3 - SELinux in Fedora 13 2. Interview with the crew 2.1 - Interview #1 2.2 - Interview #2 3. Interview Possibility - out of scope 3.1 - Interview #1 > Sysadmin / Security Analyst 3.2 - Interview #2 > Security Analyst / BOFH 4. Biography's No screenshot planned. This should be done by release time with some luck. What are the times to have this stuff done ? nelson

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Xen/Virtualization free CBTs
by Nayyar Ahmad 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Hi *, I went through a friend's (M. Kamran Azeem) site <http://wbitt.com/>, where he regularly post his own developed CBTs, mostly related to GNU technologies. i found the latest Xen CBTs very interesting. link: http://wbitt.com/my-cbts-training-videos.html#Virtualization%20CBTs cheers -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares

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Re: Fun feature: etherpad playback
by Jan Wildeboer 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Gource for commit mails falls in the same category called awesome. Check some movies on youtube made with gource ... Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Fri Apr 16 18:34:24 2010 Subject: Re: Fun feature: etherpad playback On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 07:40, Mario Torre <neugens(a)limasoftware.net> wrote: > Il giorno gio, 15/04/2010 alle 22.22 -0400, Mel Chua ha scritto: > >> For instance, frantic video from the one-page release notes sprint today >> can be seen at >> http://typewith.me/ep/pad/view/one-page-release-notes/latest. Shiny! >> >> --Mel > > Wow, this is really cool. Let me echo that: awesome. I'll have a screencast reflection up about this tomorrow (I hope). That is, I just captured an actual video of the textual revision replay, and will add some commentary/overlay, which I'll post online. What I think was absolutely awesome about this was... well, there are lots of things. It's a blast being able to see the process; thank you for pointing that out. Cheers, Matt -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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Fun feature: etherpad playback
by Mel Chua 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Mostly for the amusement of folks who haven't seen this before - etherpad (the collaborative text editor we used for sprinting on marketing deliverables with groups of Allegheny students today[0]) has a playback feature. For instance, frantic video from the one-page release notes sprint today can be seen at http://typewith.me/ep/pad/view/one-page-release-notes/latest. Shiny! --Mel [0] I would love to see a Fedora instance of this service up, actually. I know it doesn't scale as well as Gobby, but the barrier-to-entry for usage is significantly lower. I'm also pretty sure the packaging would be... entertaining.

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Sprint Tonight
by Tyler Torbet 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

We will be changing the room to #fedora-mktg. The sprint will still be at 6:00pm. Tyler

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Update: python in f13 feature profile now featuring human-readable interview.
by Mel Chua 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

The Python 13 feature interview now features human-readable text, thanks to brankf, starzej, and niedzwm, who pointed out things that would add more context for a novice programmer. Time to apply the patches Paul suggested, make some supplemental content (I think istanbul works now?), do some cleanup, and we'll be ready to ship in a week. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Python_in_Fedora_13&diff=167080… --Mel

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Video release schedule
by Paul W. Frields 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Hi guys, I've got word back from the folks working on a couple feature videos about their target dates for release. The schedule looks like this: 27 April -- Python 4 May -- Desktop HW enablements Kara Schiltz and I are going to try to build a Red Hat press blog entry around each of these, which builds some additional context around the video from the Red Hat side. This is where the feature profiles come in. If your content is ready by that date, we can point to your feature profile on the wiki[1] from the press blog article as well, enhancing the value of the content. Both the press blog and the wiki page can point to the video, and voila, the circle is complete. (Cue Darth Vader breathing.) ;-) Are these dates achievable for the folks working on those feature profiles? * * * [1] Yes, I want to use Insight for this material soon. Because these dates are so very close to our production launch, and because we are still working on closing two risks (skin and docs) I would rather not tie these together right now. Don't worry, there will be *plenty* of time to get more content onto FI provided we make our FI deadlines. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Re: Advertising "open core" software
by Jan Wildeboer 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

IMHO only solutions that can be completely implemented by all Fedora users without restrictions are worth mentioning in our promo. So you can guess my answer ;-) Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Wed Apr 14 18:38:02 2010 Subject: Re: Advertising "open core" software On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 18:26 -0400, Jan Wildeboer wrote: > This discussion gets out of hand and doesn't belong here. The original > question was if fedora marketing material should promote open core > software > or not. Jan, I shouldn't even be posting on this thread, but do we take any benefits by doing such? And how would we cross those beneficts vs our current work load? Should we drop FOSS assignments for it? That's pretty much the only thing I could say. Not turning up or down, neither want to crash no one's parade. nelson > > We are not discussing feature wars of whatever project/product. > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > <marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > To: Robert Scheck <robert(a)fedoraproject.org> > Cc: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Sent: Wed Apr 14 18:08:58 2010 > Subject: Re: Advertising "open core" software > > On 04/15/2010 03:23 AM, Robert Scheck wrote > > Having this said, I'm pretty sure, that only less Fedora users care > > about > > whether Zarafa in Fedora has support for Outlook or not, because most of > > our Fedora users don't use Windows as their main operating system. > > We really don't know much about our users. They might be using Windows > or they might be working on a environment where a number of *other > users* are using Windows. > > > Maybe > > you should see the benefit of what Zarafa open sourced so far: There is > > a > > full-featured Open Source MAPI implementation and library by Zarafa, > > while > > OpenChange provides in comparision only a few less percent of the > > overall > > functionalities and features - they're providing basics, but did you > > ever > > try something more extended? It doesn't work or it crashes. OpenChange > > is > > not usable in Enterprise so far, while Zarafa (even without the > > proprietary > > features) is. > > > > The whole point of MAPI is to talk to folks using Windows. So you can't > really argue that Windows is irrelevant to our discussions. Even in a > groupware deployment within Red Hat, blackberry integration was > considered a blocker for example. No doubt that open source features > are useful by itself but it should be taken into consideration that a > large scale deployment very likely would have to be buying the > proprietary version and IMO that should factor into our considerations > of what we promote within Fedora regardless of whether you consider > your work in Fedora as a "test bed". I understand you are associated > with Zarafa and worked on integrating it into Fedora but my position on > this concern around the model we are implicitly promoting rather than > anything against the software itself. The question boils down to one > simple thing: Should we promote "open core" software prominently within > Fedora? You can take Zarafa completely out of the equation and still > answer that meaningfully. > > > By the way, wasn't it you some time ago promoting the Omega Fedora Remix > > containing closed source software via the Fedora mailing lists? > > > > Common confusion. There is no "closed source" software in Omega. > What I include by default is the some software from the RPM Fusion - > free repo which are entirely free and open source software. Being > patent encumbered in some regions doesn't make it non-free. Anyway > this is off-topic to the current discussion. If you have questions on > Omega, feel free to mail me offlist about it and I can discuss any > concerns in length. > > Rahul > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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