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Fun feature: etherpad playback
by Mel Chua 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Mostly for the amusement of folks who haven't seen this before - etherpad (the collaborative text editor we used for sprinting on marketing deliverables with groups of Allegheny students today[0]) has a playback feature. For instance, frantic video from the one-page release notes sprint today can be seen at http://typewith.me/ep/pad/view/one-page-release-notes/latest. Shiny! --Mel [0] I would love to see a Fedora instance of this service up, actually. I know it doesn't scale as well as Gobby, but the barrier-to-entry for usage is significantly lower. I'm also pretty sure the packaging would be... entertaining.

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Sprint Tonight
by Tyler Torbet 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

We will be changing the room to #fedora-mktg. The sprint will still be at 6:00pm. Tyler

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Update: python in f13 feature profile now featuring human-readable interview.
by Mel Chua 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

The Python 13 feature interview now features human-readable text, thanks to brankf, starzej, and niedzwm, who pointed out things that would add more context for a novice programmer. Time to apply the patches Paul suggested, make some supplemental content (I think istanbul works now?), do some cleanup, and we'll be ready to ship in a week. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Python_in_Fedora_13&diff=167080… --Mel

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Video release schedule
by Paul W. Frields 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Hi guys, I've got word back from the folks working on a couple feature videos about their target dates for release. The schedule looks like this: 27 April -- Python 4 May -- Desktop HW enablements Kara Schiltz and I are going to try to build a Red Hat press blog entry around each of these, which builds some additional context around the video from the Red Hat side. This is where the feature profiles come in. If your content is ready by that date, we can point to your feature profile on the wiki[1] from the press blog article as well, enhancing the value of the content. Both the press blog and the wiki page can point to the video, and voila, the circle is complete. (Cue Darth Vader breathing.) ;-) Are these dates achievable for the folks working on those feature profiles? * * * [1] Yes, I want to use Insight for this material soon. Because these dates are so very close to our production launch, and because we are still working on closing two risks (skin and docs) I would rather not tie these together right now. Don't worry, there will be *plenty* of time to get more content onto FI provided we make our FI deadlines. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com

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Re: Advertising "open core" software
by Jan Wildeboer 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

IMHO only solutions that can be completely implemented by all Fedora users without restrictions are worth mentioning in our promo. So you can guess my answer ;-) Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Wed Apr 14 18:38:02 2010 Subject: Re: Advertising "open core" software On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 18:26 -0400, Jan Wildeboer wrote: > This discussion gets out of hand and doesn't belong here. The original > question was if fedora marketing material should promote open core > software > or not. Jan, I shouldn't even be posting on this thread, but do we take any benefits by doing such? And how would we cross those beneficts vs our current work load? Should we drop FOSS assignments for it? That's pretty much the only thing I could say. Not turning up or down, neither want to crash no one's parade. nelson > > We are not discussing feature wars of whatever project/product. > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > <marketing-bounces(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > To: Robert Scheck <robert(a)fedoraproject.org> > Cc: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > <marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Sent: Wed Apr 14 18:08:58 2010 > Subject: Re: Advertising "open core" software > > On 04/15/2010 03:23 AM, Robert Scheck wrote > > Having this said, I'm pretty sure, that only less Fedora users care > > about > > whether Zarafa in Fedora has support for Outlook or not, because most of > > our Fedora users don't use Windows as their main operating system. > > We really don't know much about our users. They might be using Windows > or they might be working on a environment where a number of *other > users* are using Windows. > > > Maybe > > you should see the benefit of what Zarafa open sourced so far: There is > > a > > full-featured Open Source MAPI implementation and library by Zarafa, > > while > > OpenChange provides in comparision only a few less percent of the > > overall > > functionalities and features - they're providing basics, but did you > > ever > > try something more extended? It doesn't work or it crashes. OpenChange > > is > > not usable in Enterprise so far, while Zarafa (even without the > > proprietary > > features) is. > > > > The whole point of MAPI is to talk to folks using Windows. So you can't > really argue that Windows is irrelevant to our discussions. Even in a > groupware deployment within Red Hat, blackberry integration was > considered a blocker for example. No doubt that open source features > are useful by itself but it should be taken into consideration that a > large scale deployment very likely would have to be buying the > proprietary version and IMO that should factor into our considerations > of what we promote within Fedora regardless of whether you consider > your work in Fedora as a "test bed". I understand you are associated > with Zarafa and worked on integrating it into Fedora but my position on > this concern around the model we are implicitly promoting rather than > anything against the software itself. The question boils down to one > simple thing: Should we promote "open core" software prominently within > Fedora? You can take Zarafa completely out of the equation and still > answer that meaningfully. > > > By the way, wasn't it you some time ago promoting the Omega Fedora Remix > > containing closed source software via the Fedora mailing lists? > > > > Common confusion. There is no "closed source" software in Omega. > What I include by default is the some software from the RPM Fusion - > free repo which are entirely free and open source software. Being > patent encumbered in some regions doesn't make it non-free. Anyway > this is off-topic to the current discussion. If you have questions on > Omega, feel free to mail me offlist about it and I can discuss any > concerns in length. > > Rahul > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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FYI - Fedora Insight Freeze dates
by Robyn Bergeron 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Caught this in IRC a bit ago - 17:23 < mmcgrath> mchua_afk: any timeline on insight? We unfroze today and will freeze again on the 4th. If it's going to go live it should do so well in advance of that. I'd say April 26th at the latest.

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One Page Release Notes Sprint
by Tyler Torbet 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

My name is Tyler Torbet. I am a student at Allegheny College and our group is working with the Fedora Project. We are working on One Page Release Notes and would like to have a sprint tonight at 6:00pm in order to get some more ideas. The chat room will be: #OPRN-sprint. Some of our group members will be there about 5:45-5:50pm. Anyone is welcome! Tyler

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[in the news] Fedora 13 Beta Gnome LiveCD First Look
by Kara Schiltz 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

This Week in Linux 4.15.10 Fedora 13 Beta Gnome LiveCD First Look http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/2010/04/this-week-in-linux-fedora-13-beta-gn…

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[in the news] Register: Fedora tempts fate with Apollo 13 beta
by Adam Williamson 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/13/fedora_13_beta/ -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Linux Foundation MeeGo partners: Fedora MIA
by Rahul Sundaram 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Hi, http://www.linuxfoundation.org/node/6145 Linux Foundation has recently announced a long list of distributions as partners to boost their MeeGo effort. Fedora (and Ubuntu) is not in that list. Any idea, why? We have folks like Peter Robinson and others very engaged in this sub community of netbook development and "Fedora Mini" stuff. Rahul

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