marketing September 2014

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Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
by Elad Alfassa 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro(a)gnome.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 16:05 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: >> I'm not sure that's fair, comparing the feature list from F20 >> gnome-software to F21 is huge. People using the COPR have got a sneak >> peak of some of the juicy stuff, but in f20 software was kinda dull. > > Well, with respect to gnome-software, yes, that is much improved. Let me > try to rephrase my point. > > F21 has mostly the same applications as F20 did. We're not "picking the > best components out there" any more than we were before, and we're not > "doing a lot of work to integrate and polish them" any more than we were > before. It is not a "much more polished and targeted product than what > you seen before from the Fedora community." Fedora already had a good > set of default applications, the new set is pretty much the same as it > used to be (exception: devassistant), and improvements in applications > since F20 are all upstream improvements, not Fedora-specific integration > (exception: the PackageKit backend). I completely disagree with that. We do a lot of integration work, and the default set did change a lot, for example the firewall allowing incoming connections to high ports out of the box and there's much less useless stuff installed by default. We also install git by default, for example, which we didn't do before. Overall Fedora 21 comes almost ready for developers to use out of the box. What you're saying effectively tries to diminish all the hard work we've done this cycle, and I don't like this at all. > > Fedora Workstation is pretty much the same as Fedora Desktop was. It's > not some dramatic new product. Christian's intro sounds like a good > marketing pitch, so maybe we want to use it anyway, but it's not very > realistic. It reminds me of the Dominos commercials that made fun of how > much bad their old pizza recipe was to sell their new pizza, but their > new pizza really was different from their old pizza. Our pizza is surely > a bit nicer than it was before, but it's the same incremental > improvement you would expect after one year, not anything radically new. > It's 2 cycles worth of improvements compared to F20 due to the long cycle we've had, plus a lot of integration work and polish both upstream and downstream. You can't just ignore this. > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- -Elad Alfassa.

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Re: Some suggestions for Marketing notes for FW 21
by Elad Alfassa 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 5:35 PM, drago01 <drago01(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Christian Schaller <cschalle(a)redhat.com> wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> Here are some draft notes I prepared to try to help our marketing team >> build up some release notes and press material on the Fedora Workstation release. >> Already sent it to the Working Group members, but I thought I send it out to these two >> lists for further review and suggestions. >> >> Christian >> -------------------- >> >> Fedora Workstation Marketing >> >> The Fedora Workstation is a new take on desktop development from the Fedora >> Community. Instead of seeing ourselves primarily as passive packagers of any >> software we manage to find we are now instead picking the best components out >> there and doing a lot of of work to integrate and polish them, presenting you >> with something you will feel is a much more polished and targeted product >> than what you seen before from the Fedora community. We want our desktop operating >> system to solve your problems, not be your problem. >> >> Easy access to all your Software >> The cornerstone of the Fedora Workstation is our Software installer application, or >> our appstore if you like.. It provides a modern and fast interface for finding all >> any kind of desktop software for your Fedora Workstation. In Fedora 21 we are using >> the new hawkeye backend [...] > > That will trigger a "wtf is a hawkeye backend" to pretty much anyone > that does not know the history here and/or about yum/dnf/PackageKit > internals. So I'd rephrase it to say that its faster etc. without > going into details like the name of the PK backend. > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop Yep, I agree, leave implementation details out of this. Also, I'm pretty sure the library is called hawkey and not hawkeye -- -Elad Alfassa.

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Agenda for tomorrow's meeting?
by Joe Brockmeier 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

Hi all, Appears we have a meeting tomorrow at 20:00 UTC. Do we have an agenda for this? It'd be great to have a list of topics ahead of time. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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Marketing-trac: #178: Fossetcon bag insert
by Marketing Team 08 Sep '14

08 Sep '14

#178: Fossetcon bag insert --------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: mailga | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Future releases Component: other | Severity: urgent Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | --------------------+------------------------------ Ruth asked for a bag insert for Fossetcon. [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2014-August/016326.html here] is the post. I totally agree with gnokii reply, and we should open a ticket in Design for the stickers mockup. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/178> marketing-team <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing> Marketing team for the Fedora project.

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Marketing-trac: #180: Deleting fedocal meeting reminders
by Marketing Team 08 Sep '14

08 Sep '14

#180: Deleting fedocal meeting reminders --------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: mailga | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: other | Severity: not-urgent Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | --------------------+------------------------------ Since we have not planned any meeting schedule so far, it's the case to delete the recurring meeting reminder for being restored when the new schedule is done. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/180> marketing-team <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing> Marketing team for the Fedora project.

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Marketing Meeting
by Nobody 08 Sep '14

08 Sep '14

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Marketing Meeting on 2014-09-08 from 20:00:00 to 21:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/275/

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A very rough F21 alpha release announcement draft
by Joe Brockmeier 05 Sep '14

05 Sep '14

Current draft here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Alpha_release_announcement A couple things that need to be filled out: - More detail on each of the products. - Anything we're missing that needs to be emphasized *during the alpha release*? - We don't currently have a F21 common bugs page. I plan to give this one or more passes before I'd consider it final, but I'd also like extra eyes, suggestions, etc. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/

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Fedora Magazine Maintenance
by Chris Roberts 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

Hey Everyone, Saturday night around 1AM-2AM I will be doing some maintenance to the Fedora Magazine, I will make all the changes I need to make and then restart the instance. I expect the downtime to only be around 15 minutes, although while I am doing things the site may appear slow. When: 9-6-14 1AM-2AM Who: All users Why: To clean up the database some more, update some things with the way backups are handled and investigate why Askimet is starting to not catch alot of the comments. Also do a full sync of the site to the staging instance since this has not been done in a while. If anyone has any questions, reach out to me. I was going to do this after Flock but being sick has pushed it back as I catch up on things. - Chris Roberts

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Fedora 21 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting :: Thursday, Sep. 04, 19:00 UTC
by Jaroslav Reznik 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

Fedora 21 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting. date: 2014-09-04 place: irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 time: 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT, 12 PM PDT, 21:00 CEST) This Thursday, September 04, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated and ready for the Alpha release of Fedora 21 on Tuesday, September 09, 2014. Please note that this meeting will occur on September 04 even if the release is delayed at the Go/No-Go meeting on the same day two hours earlier. You may received this message several times, but I was asked to open this meeting to the teams and I'll also hope this will raise awareness and more team representatives will come to this meeting. This meeting works best when we have representatives from all of the teams. Jaroslav

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Regarding awareness about linux
by Sachin Vardhan 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

We, GLUG-NITH (http://glug.nith.ac.in) are planning to celebrate Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) on 20th September in our college. We were thinking if it would be possible any of you provide us with Fedora CD/DVDs, stickers, tees so that we can distribute them to students and spread awareness about linux. Thank you. -- Regards, Sachin Vardhan Department of Computer Science National Institute of Technology Hamirpur

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