Hi Paul (and everyone),

Stephanie from Red Hat corp comms here. We are on the distro, and have been reading everything. You've hit the nail on the head re: the symbiotic relationship. And as both you and Robyn have reassured everyone, there was certainly no malintent here. It was a mistake, and it won't happen again.

And yes, Anna Eusebio, who manages Fedora PR efforts is also on this thread. She weighed in earlier, responding to this string, but in case it didn't get through to everyone, here's what she said:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: "Red Hat Releases Fedora 18 Beta"
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:06:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Anna Eusebio <aeusebio@redhat.com>
Reply-To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>
To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org>

Hey everyone,

I have been following the marketing thread since yesterday, and I apologize again for sending our reporters a subject line that was misinterpreted. I was excited to make sure the Beta release received a lot of good coverage, and I will definitely make sure the same thing doesn't happen again, especially with the upcoming GA.

Anna Eusebio


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On 11/28/2012 05:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:28:04PM -0600, inode0 wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM, "J├│hann B. Gu├░mundsson"
<johannbg@gmail.com> wrote:
Any reason why our own marketing community cant start creating and
maintaining our own extensive database of contacts so on and so forth and we
simply stop dealing with/through Red Hat PR or any other third party or
One guess: no one so far thinks it is worth their time to duplicate
the work already being done by a sponsor who is willing to let us
leverage the work they do continuously.

There is cachet that comes from Red Hat's involvement here which is
valuable to journalists as well, i.e. a symbiotic relationship.
Unfortunately that sometimes results in an error, but overall this has
been getting steadily better over the last several years.

Does anyone know if the Red Hat PR person who was assisting in this
case (I'm sorry, stuck in an interface without access to name right
now) hangs out on this mailing list?  I wonder if the tenor of this
conversation at numerous points would have been inhospitable to a
newcomer.  I also hope this person knows we all make mistakes from
time to time and the good effort deserves notice.  I'm drawn once
again to the community tenet "Assume good intentions."  Have we done