Il giorno lun, 19/10/2015 alle 09.55 -0400, Paul W. Frields ha scritto:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 03:19:31PM -0400, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> > On 10/16/2015 03:15 PM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
> > > Il giorno ven, 16/10/2015 alle 14.55 -0400, Paul W. Frields ha
> > > scritto:
> > > > How do folks feel about time-limiting open comments on
> > > > articles?
> > > > We often see comments coming in on old articles.  We can't
> > > > reasonably expect authors to monitor these forever.  It seems
> > > > to
> > > > me like 30 days should be enough time to allow comments,
> > > > considering the curve of hits we see on the articles.
> > > >
> > > > What do other folks think?
> > >
> > > good point, sometimes I'm really bored about seeing comments on
> > > old
> > > posts; but there are some evergeen post we should leave open (e.g
> > > [1][2][3]) or open for a long time.
> > >
> > > IMO posts not related to the release or a specific version of
> > > software
> > > should be open for more than 30 days.
>
> How long?  90 days?  180?  Forever?
> And what would you, as a commenter, a reader, or an editor, expect to
> happen with the comments left after a certain period?
>
> > > Is there a way (e.c. categories) to handle these terms? Are we
> > > able to
> > > distinguish amongst posts? Also, are we able to remind to the
> > > author
> > > his post is going to be closed, so he can ask to leave open if he
> > > considers that its cycle is not ended?
> > >
> > > [1]http://fedoramagazine.org/make-github-pages-blog-with-pelican/
> > > [2]http://fedoramagazine.org/how_we_translate_fedora/
> > > [3]http://fedoramagazine.org/use-fpaste-share-problem-reports/
> > >
> >
> > I think having a category or some kind of tag to mark articles as
> > time-sensitive is a good idea - I also think there are some
> > articles that
> > might be better for a longer commenting period and others that are
> > useful
> > only for a specific window of time (as mentioned with specific
> > Fedora
> > releases). I think this also depends on the author's activity with
> > the
> > magazine too.
>
> The built-in function in Wordpress is global.  Either comments are
> open, disabled on articles after a certain time period, or closed.
>
> I found a plugin that accomplishes what we want on an individual post
> basis:  https://wordpress.org/plugins/comment-expirator/
>
> We should probably test that elsewhere before trying on the site.
>  The
> plugin has a pretty low uptake, although it looks simple enough.
>
> --
>
I'm guessing about categorized  articles:

A) general (like mine a couple of years ago [1], "how do you Fedora"
series[2] or groups related [3] and similar [4]-> no closing terms;

B) events (Fudcon, Flock and so on) -> closed when new events happen (a
year?);

C) election, meetings and so on - manually(?) closed when things are
over;

D) Fedora/n: -> automatically closed every new release;

E) Software, hardware, howtos and so on: -> manually(?) closed when
updated or rewrote;

This is very hard to handle; it needs almost an admin manual check, so
I think we should determine deadlines for each category we would
maintain.

On different perspective, I expect to happen:

- as commenter: fill in a comment, waiting for author reply and going
on if we might discuss; guessing how long it can last it's really hard.
But probably those kind of comments become obsoletes when points D) and
E) above happen.
- as reader: the same of as commenter, difference is small. In this
case I'm only following the discussion amongst other people.
- as editor: I'm expecting a lot of people send me thanks for the
article and I'd be really glad to start a discussion and if it's a
generic article, seeing other's point of view and sometimes change my
opinion or change people's opinion.

Either fedmag is a resource to browse, study, read, deepen and view as
a Fedora living historic memory or make it a sort of feed reader just
setting up a cold expiration date everywhere.

That's what I think.

Thanks Gabri


[1] http://fedoramagazine.org/we-are-everywhere-you-need/
[2] http://fedoramagazine.org/major-hayden-how-do-you-fedora/
[3] http://fedoramagazine.org/about-fedora-infrastructure/
[4] http://fedoramagazine.org/join-fedora/

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