On 4 September 2014 11:14, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@redhat.com> wrote:

Matthew Miller píše v Čt 04. 09. 2014 v 12:38 -0400:

> On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 04:33:48PM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > That's a question. I wrote off physical media for the cloud product
> > right away, but I'm not sure about the server. We didn't reach a
> > consensus in FAmSCo. Some say they have installed server OSes from a DVD
> > recently. That's why we asked Christoph to reach out to the server
>
> Random thought: What if we ship the server as a preconfigured VM on the
> workstation media?

This sounds like an interesting idea to me. I have no idea how it would
behave and if it'd be usable running Fedora live, but it's worth trying.

> In general, I think it would be nice to target our media giveaways to the
> audience.
>
> If we're reaching out to developers (DevOps Days, Velocity), Workstation
> media makes sense. (With or without the server VM idea).
>
> For LISA, the developer desktop target isn't going to be so interesting, and
> maybe server media would indeed be valuable. Although from last year, most
> people taking the media were looking to try it on their laptops, or just
> collecting souvenirs -- people who were really interested in doing a Fedora
> server deploy would mostly do a network install. (I guess the question is
> whether that "souvenir" install media would actually sometimes convince
> people to try it where they wouldn't otherwise, because, hey, I've got it
> already with no need hunt for the download link or to find a blank USB stick
> or DVD.)
>
> If we feel like we have the budget for it, *and* people are willing to make
> and test it, I don't think it hurts to have the multi-desktop DVD available
> for distribution where we feel like the targetted message won't resonate
> anyway. I guess I'm mostly thinking of LUGs where the userbase is mostly
> interested in tinkering and trying multiple desktops is more of a draw.
> Actually, LISA might be an example of that too -- although "you can
> net-install from this and pick the desktop of your choice" would probably
> satisfy.

Ok, let me put the ideas in the cost perspective:
In EMEA if we order 5000 DVDs of one kind (same content, same graphics)
we pay ~ $1750.
If we order 1000 DVDs then the price is ~$800.

So if we for example order 5 different DVDs, 1000 pieces each, the total
price will be: $4000.

How many USB 8 gb sticks could we order with that money (the 1750?)? And how instead of giving it away we went to a 'earn the fob by sharing or helping someone else' system?

 While DVD's are useful in some regions, I agree that the amount of money to burn throw away media might be better spent on things people can use multiple times in different ways.

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