An animal mascot for Fedora?

[Luke Slater]

Hey everyone,

Should we have a think about Fedora maybe getting an animal mascot? We
have a great logo at the moment but I think people can relate more to
animals and it might give the project a more friendly feel? This kind
of thing has proven successful for a certain kernel as well as
distributions such as SuSE. Not to say we should just be copying the
other distributions ideas but I think they are onto something there.

We could have Sean the turtle. Why? Because I have a turtle named Sean
(http://i47.tinypic.com/r1bgj8.jpg) and I think someone could make a
nice SVG logo out of a turtle; plus, they would make good cuddly toys
which is good for merchandise. There has been some support for the
idea already when I asked in the Fedora group on Identica earlier.

I just thought I would mention it, what do you think?

Thanks a lot,

-- 
Luke Slater
:O)

[Robert 'Bob' Jensen]

----- "Luke Slater" <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hey everyone,
>  
>  Should we have a think about Fedora maybe getting an animal mascot?
>  We
>  have a great logo at the moment but I think people can relate more to
>  animals and it might give the project a more friendly feel? This kind
>  of thing has proven successful for a certain kernel as well as
>  distributions such as SuSE. Not to say we should just be copying the
>  other distributions ideas but I think they are onto something there.
>  
>  We could have Sean the turtle. Why? Because I have a turtle named
>  Sean
>  (http://i47.tinypic.com/r1bgj8.jpg) and I think someone could make a
>  nice SVG logo out of a turtle; plus, they would make good cuddly toys
>  which is good for merchandise. There has been some support for the
>  idea already when I asked in the Fedora group on Identica earlier.
>  
>  I just thought I would mention it, what do you think?
>  
>  Thanks a lot,
>   
No thanks.

-- Bob

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[Mario Torre]

Il giorno mar, 18/05/2010 alle 22.50 +0000, Robert 'Bob' Jensen ha
scritto:

>  
>  No thanks.
>   
This is indeed a very constructive answer.

I like the idea of the animal mascotte, but should be something cute,
perhaps a different mascotte for each release even?

Cheers,
Mario
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[Jan Wildeboer]

On 05/19/2010 02:47 PM, Mario Torre wrote:

>  I like the idea of the animal mascotte, but should be something
> cute,
>  perhaps a different mascotte for each release even? 
Please don't. If we ever want to manufacture/license a mascot and change 
it all the time, we will sit on a huge pile of expensive goodies that 
are outdated.

If we ever should stick to a mascot, I would propose a fish. For various 
reasons.

- Since Finding Nemo fish are perceived as schweet ;-)
- A fish feeds the penguin, a nice pun wrt being a Linux distribution ;-)
- A fish needs water - symbolises the ecosystem around Open Source
- A fish never sleeps ;-)

So I would propose a Blue Clown fish ala Finding Nemo. I am sure Nicu 
can come up with a beautiful SVG of a clownfish with the fedora F on its 
skin ;-)

Jan

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[María Leandro]

Hello

My suggestion... don't use animals. Some animals are holy in some countries,
some are hunted, some are near extintion... how will you choose an animal
without send a wrong message? is a complicated topic and I don't think that
"because is cute" must be the reason.

Instead, I made some "kids" that we can use, this are really like the
"join
fedora" icons and represent US, the people that work with fedora, Mo also
use this kids in some talks and I have been using them in several artworks.

Just an Idea, and maybe we do need something beyond our logo to send a
message... but we need to think really "what do we need"

Here some examples:

http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Arte/Banners
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723964218/in/set-72157606893687387/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723154711/in/set-72157613836974776/

hope to help :)

2010/5/20 Mario Torre <neugens(a)limasoftware.net&gt;

>  Il giorno mar, 18/05/2010 alle 22.50 +0000, Robert 'Bob'
> Jensen ha
>  scritto:
>
>  >
>  > No thanks.
>  >
>
>  This is indeed a very constructive answer.
>
>  I like the idea of the animal mascotte, but should be something cute,
>  perhaps a different mascotte for each release even?
>
>  Cheers,
>  Mario
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[threethirty]

On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 08:29 +1930, María Leandro wrote:
>  Hello
>  
>  My suggestion... don't use animals. Some animals are holy in some
>  countries, some are hunted, some are near extintion... how will you
>  choose an animal without send a wrong message? is a complicated topic
>  and I don't think that "because is cute" must be the reason.
>  
>  Instead, I made some "kids" that we can use, this are re ally like the
>  "join fedora" icons and represent US, the people that work with
>  fedora, Mo also use this kids in some talks and I have been using them
>  in several artworks.
>  
>  Just an Idea, and maybe we do need something beyond our logo to send a
>  message... but we need to think really "what do we need"
>  
>  Here some examples:
>  
>  http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Arte/Banners
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723964218/in/set-72157606893687387/
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723154711/in/set-72157613836974776/
>  
>  hope to help :)
>   
María,

Would you relicense those CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or CC-0 so that others could
use them even if they don't become an official part of out marketing
arsenal? 


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[María Leandro]

Sure, they already are under a cc+by+nc on fedorapeople.

also Mo use them for some presentations and I did for Fedora Education.

Original files are in:

http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/EduSig/
(those that say familia, which means family)

btw, the images are based on some friends from latam, so I'm sure they will
be really happy to see their cartoons in fedora :)

2010/5/25 threethirty <three(a)threethirty.us&gt;

>  On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 08:29 +1930, María Leandro wrote:
>  > Hello
>  >
>  > My suggestion... don't use animals. Some animals are holy in some
>  > countries, some are hunted, some are near extintion... how will you
>  > choose an animal without send a wrong message? is a complicated topic
>  > and I don't think that "because is cute" must be the reason.
>  >
>  > Instead, I made some "kids" that we can use, this are re ally like the
>  > "join fedora" icons and represent US, the people that work with
>  > fedora, Mo also use this kids in some talks and I have been using them
>  > in several artworks.
>  >
>  > Just an Idea, and maybe we do need something beyond our logo to send a
>  > message... but we need to think really "what do we need"
>  >
>  > Here some examples:
>  >
>  > http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Arte/Banners
>  >
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723964218/in/set-72157606893687387/
>  >
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723154711/in/set-72157613836974776/
>  >
>  > hope to help :)
>  >
>
>  María,
>
>  Would you relicense those CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or CC-0 so that others could
>  use them even if they don't become an official part of out marketing
>  arsenal?
>
>
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[Gerard Braad]

2010/5/25 María Leandro <tatica(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Sure, they already are under a cc+by+nc on fedorapeople. 
CC BY-NC Is not the most ideal license: http://bit.ly/WhyNotNC as it
can cause incompatibilities. Karsten (quaid) knows more about this and
might be able to see how to deal with it.

Gerard — 吉拉德

[threethirty]

On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 07:25 +1930, María Leandro wrote:
>  Sure, they already are under a cc+by+nc on fedorapeople.
>  
>  also Mo use them for some presentations and I did for Fedora
>  Education.
>  
>  Original files are in:
>  
>  http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/EduSig/
>  (those that say familia, which means family)
>  
>  btw, the images are based on some friends from latam, so I'm sure they
>  will be really happy to see their cartoons in fedora :)
>  
>  2010/5/25 threethirty <three(a)threethirty.us&gt;
>          On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 08:29 +1930, María Leandro wrote:
>          > Hello
>          >
>          > My suggestion... don't use animals. Some animals are holy in
>          some
>          > countries, some are hunted, some are near extintion... how
>          will you
>          > choose an animal without send a wrong message? is a
>          complicated topic
>          > and I don't think that "because is cute" must be the reason.
>          >
>          
>          > Instead, I made some "kids" that we can use, this are re
>          ally like the
>          > "join fedora" icons and represent US, the people that work
>          with
>          > fedora, Mo also use this kids in some talks and I have been
>          using them
>          > in several artworks.
>          >
>          > Just an Idea, and maybe we do need something beyond our logo
>          to send a
>          > message... but we need to think really "what do we need"
>          >
>          > Here some examples:
>          >
>          > http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Arte/Banners
>          >
>          http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723964218/in/set-72157606893687387/
>          >
>          http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723154711/in/set-72157613836974776/
>          >
>          > hope to help :)
>          >
>          
>          
>          María,
>          
>          Would you relicense those CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or CC-0 so that
>          others could
>          use them even if they don't become an official part of out
>          marketing
>          arsenal?
>          
>          
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María,

Ahh ok... I was being lazy and only looking at flickr.  

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[Gerard Braad]

2010/5/25 María Leandro <tatica(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  also Mo use them for some presentations and I did for Fedora
> Education. 
Seems they are also used for the SoaS spin:
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#about

Gerard — 吉拉德

[Robert 'Bob' Jensen]

----- "Mario Torre" <neugens(a)limasoftware.net&gt; wrote:

>  
>  This is indeed a very constructive answer.
>   
<snip> 

We have been over the mascot thing in the past, was a waste of resources then and IMO
would be again. 

The symbolism of a turtle has nothing to do with Fedora, turtle... slow, Fedora... fast. 

I am entitled to my opinion and it is still... 

No thanks.

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[Sven von Brand]

On 05/18/2010 06:58 PM, Luke Slater wrote:
>  Hey everyone,
>
>  Should we have a think about Fedora maybe getting an animal mascot? We
>  have a great logo at the moment but I think people can relate more to
>  animals and it might give the project a more friendly feel? This kind
>  of thing has proven successful for a certain kernel as well as
>  distributions such as SuSE. Not to say we should just be copying the
>  other distributions ideas but I think they are onto something there.
>
>      
This topic arises from time to time, there's a wiki page dedicated to
mascots, have you seen it?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot

>  We could have Sean the turtle. Why? Because I have a turtle named
> Sean
>  (http://i47.tinypic.com/r1bgj8.jpg) and I think someone could make a
>  nice SVG logo out of a turtle; plus, they would make good cuddly toys
>  which is good for merchandise. There has been some support for the
>  idea already when I asked in the Fedora group on Identica earlier.
>
>  I just thought I would mention it, what do you think?
>
>  Thanks a lot,
>
>      
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[inode0]

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Luke Slater <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hey everyone,
>
>  Should we have a think about Fedora maybe getting an animal mascot? We
>  have a great logo at the moment but I think people can relate more to
>  animals and it might give the project a more friendly feel? This kind
>  of thing has proven successful for a certain kernel as well as
>  distributions such as SuSE. Not to say we should just be copying the
>  other distributions ideas but I think they are onto something there.
>
>  We could have Sean the turtle. Why? Because I have a turtle named Sean
>  (http://i47.tinypic.com/r1bgj8.jpg) and I think someone could make a
>  nice SVG logo out of a turtle; plus, they would make good cuddly toys
>  which is good for merchandise. There has been some support for the
>  idea already when I asked in the Fedora group on Identica earlier.
>
>  I just thought I would mention it, what do you think? 
well, I just can't help myself whenever this comes up so ...

http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/Picture 18 - Blue starfish.jpg

cheers,
John

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/19/2010 04:28 AM, Luke Slater wrote:
>  We could have Sean the turtle. Why? Because I have a turtle named
> Sean
>  (http://i47.tinypic.com/r1bgj8.jpg) and I think someone could make a
>  nice SVG logo out of a turtle; plus, they would make good cuddly toys
>  which is good for merchandise. There has been some support for the
>  idea already when I asked in the Fedora group on Identica earlier.
>
>  I just thought I would mention it, what do you think?
>     
One practical aspect to consider about Mascots is that our logo has some
tight rules and strict guidelines associated with it.  A mascot provides
more artistic freedoms and enables some possibilities for a Fedora store
if ever get one up and running. 

Rahul

[wonderer]

Hy there,

here are my thoughts about this...
>  Should we have a think about Fedora maybe getting an animal mascot? 
I would not recommend it, because...
>  We
>  have a great logo at the moment but I think people can relate more to
>  animals and it might give the project a more friendly feel?  
I thought our 4F's
has a "Friends" in it. That should work so far well...
>  This kind
>  of thing has proven successful for a certain kernel as well as
>  distributions such as SuSE.  
Another F stands for First ... we would not be the
First who uses an
animal...
>  We could have Sean the turtle. Why? Because I have a turtle named
> Sean
>  (http://i47.tinypic.com/r1bgj8.jpg) and I think someone could make a
>  nice SVG logo out of a turtle; plus, they would make good cuddly toys
>  which is good for merchandise.  
... and besides that what purpose has that specific
animal? What could
be associated with that animal? I think "slow" and "can be old" would
not fit within Fedora ...
>  I just thought I would mention it, what do you think?
>     
It maybe at some circumstances worth an idea to make several for one
specific event and THEN see how it would work. But I would feel more
comfortable with a Unique Toy or so. The "people" someone else mentioend
would be more interresting I think.

It also would be very difficult to establish a "new" mascote, becuase we
allready established the "f" - Logo very well. Maybe we could think of
what we could do with THAT thing...



mit freundlichen grüßen / best regards
H. Heigl - wonderer(a)fedoraproject.org

[Daniel Kretschmer]

-1 for mascot

well the <
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/22/Artwork_Mascot_bear_mascot_stand...
is simple and good

2010/5/19 Luke Slater <tinmachin3(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  Hey everyone,
>
>  Should we have a think about Fedora maybe getting an animal mascot? We
>  have a great logo at the moment but I think people can relate more to
>  animals and it might give the project a more friendly feel? This kind
>  of thing has proven successful for a certain kernel as well as
>  distributions such as SuSE. Not to say we should just be copying the
>  other distributions ideas but I think they are onto something there.
>
>  We could have Sean the turtle. Why? Because I have a turtle named Sean
>  (http://i47.tinypic.com/r1bgj8.jpg) and I think someone could make a
>  nice SVG logo out of a turtle; plus, they would make good cuddly toys
>  which is good for merchandise. There has been some support for the
>  idea already when I asked in the Fedora group on Identica earlier.
>
>  I just thought I would mention it, what do you think?
>
>  Thanks a lot,
>
>  --
>  Luke Slater
>  :O)
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