I asked if it was a NASCAR thing bc if DNF means did not finish, it must have something to do with racing. I have a lot of experience in running and the leagues and road races I've ran in never used the term afaik. I have also watched the Boston Marathon in person more than once and I've never heard the term. So I thought maybe it was from auto racing, and I thought Bryan was from NC where NASCAR is quite popular so maybe it is a regional term. There was no negative connotation meant by asking if it was associated with NASCAR, I was just grasping at straws since I'd never heard of it.
Either way it really seems like racing jargon to me, not part of the general lexicon, and not really a concern. If it is a concern the correct place to bring it up is with the developers, not here.
~m
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: inode0 inode0@gmail.com </div><div>Date:02/06/2015 11:11 AM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Fedora Marketing team marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org </div><div>Subject: Re: DNF Article </div><div> </div>On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Scott Dowdle dowdle@montanalinux.org wrote:
Greetings,
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It isn't a NASCAR thing and it is very commonly used for Did Not Finish (DNS is commonly used for Did Not Start similarly). Do a search for Boston Marathon and DNF and you'll see it all over the place.
So friggin' what? You'll remember that our update program is called "fedup". Comparatively, at least this is an acronym. Now if dnf was renamed to fubar or snafu... then we might have a problem. :)
I don't care what it is named and it makes no difference to me one way or another. Just confirming that for a lot of people this is in fact the first thing they will think of because it is in fact commonly used this way. And it isn't some NASCAR thing, whatever that was intended to convey.
John
On 7 February 2015 at 15:44, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I asked if it was a NASCAR thing bc if DNF means did not finish, it must have something to do with racing. I have a lot of experience in running and the leagues and road races I've ran in never used the term afaik. I have also watched the Boston Marathon in person more than once and I've never heard the term. So I thought maybe it was from auto racing, and I thought Bryan was from NC where NASCAR is quite popular so maybe it is a regional term. There was no negative connotation meant by asking if it was associated with NASCAR, I was just grasping at straws since I'd never heard of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Not_Finish
I have seen it in horse racing and car racing in many forms.
Does it have bad connotations? Yes but if you go look for how people will make up bad connotations for any letter combination (First Out on Race Day, Garbage Machine, Infernal Bowel Movement, Cheesey Data Corporation, etc.) The best way to deal with it is know that it has one and then make fun of it before the other guys do.
Either way it really seems like racing jargon to me, not part of the general lexicon, and not really a concern. If it is a concern the correct place to bring it up is with the developers, not here.
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Stephen J Smoogen.
Well, now that things have calmed down, I did not mention it to start a war, it was really just an amusing observation that I'd made when I saw the thread (which is the only reason I mentioned it). Glen, thanks for the article, I haven't really used DNF yet and any help will be beneficial since the behaviours of thing can drastically in a few cases compared to yum.
Lastly, no NASCAR here, I'm in Canada... Not enough traction on the ice
LOL<
Bryan
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 February 2015 at 15:44, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I asked if it was a NASCAR thing bc if DNF means did not finish, it must have something to do with racing. I have a lot of experience in running and the leagues and road races I've ran in never used the term afaik. I have also watched the Boston Marathon in person more than once and I've never heard the term. So I thought maybe it was from auto racing, and I thought Bryan was from NC where NASCAR is quite popular so maybe it is a regional term. There was no negative connotation meant by asking if it was associated with NASCAR, I was just grasping at straws since I'd never heard of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Not_Finish
I have seen it in horse racing and car racing in many forms.
Does it have bad connotations? Yes but if you go look for how people will make up bad connotations for any letter combination (First Out on Race Day, Garbage Machine, Infernal Bowel Movement, Cheesey Data Corporation, etc.) The best way to deal with it is know that it has one and then make fun of it before the other guys do.
Either way it really seems like racing jargon to me, not part of the general lexicon, and not really a concern. If it is a concern the correct place to bring it up is with the developers, not here.
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Stephen J Smoogen.
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Thanks Bryan, and everyone else.
I have made changes to the post the best I could understand from the feedback I received. More feedback is always helpful as I am learning the interface as well as trying to make the content of the article technical yet pleasurable to read for the casual reader.
Thank you, -Glen
On 02/08/2015 03:26 PM, Bryan Sutherland wrote:
Well, now that things have calmed down, I did not mention it to start a war, it was really just an amusing observation that I'd made when I saw the thread (which is the only reason I mentioned it). Glen, thanks for the article, I haven't really used DNF yet and any help will be beneficial since the behaviours of thing can drastically in a few cases compared to yum.
Lastly, no NASCAR here, I'm in Canada... Not enough traction on the ice >LOL<
Bryan
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@gmail.com mailto:smooge@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7 February 2015 at 15:44, Máirín Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org <mailto:duffy@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: I asked if it was a NASCAR thing bc if DNF means did not finish, it must have something to do with racing. I have a lot of experience in running and the leagues and road races I've ran in never used the term afaik. I have also watched the Boston Marathon in person more than once and I've never heard the term. So I thought maybe it was from auto racing, and I thought Bryan was from NC where NASCAR is quite popular so maybe it is a regional term. There was no negative connotation meant by asking if it was associated with NASCAR, I was just grasping at straws since I'd never heard of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Did_Not_Finish I have seen it in horse racing and car racing in many forms. Does it have bad connotations? Yes but if you go look for how people will make up bad connotations for any letter combination (First Out on Race Day, Garbage Machine, Infernal Bowel Movement, Cheesey Data Corporation, etc.) The best way to deal with it is know that it has one and then make fun of it before the other guys do. Either way it really seems like racing jargon to me, not part of the general lexicon, and not really a concern. If it is a concern the correct place to bring it up is with the developers, not here. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org> List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
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