Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Clair]

Once again, can we please take this to marketing?

On Sunday 12 March 2006 22:45, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>  I've made a press release to send to press at Wednesday 15, it is
> in
>  italian i resume the content here:
>
>  A new, and more advance, distribution of Fedora is released today,
>  it's based on Linux and it's the most advance distribution that is
>  avaiable in this moment.
>
>  Tha feautures are:
>
>  Packet with same functionality are inserted in the Extras. 
This doesn't make sense.

>  A new  packet manager with a better integration with Anaconda and
> Pup
>  updater. 
This isn't true

>  Better start and close speed 
Is this true? Has it been tested?

>  More cripted filesystem. 
I don't think this is true.

>  After three years of works Fedora is became a sure alternative to
>  commercial OS, that are full of viruses. Fedora is free and
>  OpenSource and it has alternative software to commercial ones, such
>  as OpenOffice, Firefox, Gimp etc .... it is developed by volounteer
>  that everyday work to improove the system and make it up to date. 
You can't say "Fedora is better than Windows" in a press release.


Clair

[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Francesco Ugolini]

I've translate this link: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Future

i dont' know if i have translate correctly italian to english in my  
mail, but i've put what i've find there.

Il giorno 13/mar/06, alle ore 00:00, Clair ha scritto:

>  Once again, can we please take this to marketing?
>
>  On Sunday 12 March 2006 22:45, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> > I've made a press release to send to press at Wednesday 15, it is in
> > italian i resume the content here:
> >
> > A new, and more advance, distribution of Fedora is released today,
> > it's based on Linux and it's the most advance distribution that is
> > avaiable in this moment.
> >
> > Tha feautures are:
> >
> > Packet with same functionality are inserted in the Extras.
>
>  This doesn't make sense.
>
> > A new  packet manager with a better integration with Anaconda and Pup
> > updater.
>
>  This isn't true
>
> > Better start and close speed
>
>  Is this true? Has it been tested?
>
> > More cripted filesystem.
>
>  I don't think this is true.
>
> > After three years of works Fedora is became a sure alternative to
> > commercial OS, that are full of viruses. Fedora is free and
> > OpenSource and it has alternative software to commercial ones, such
> > as OpenOffice, Firefox, Gimp etc .... it is developed by volounteer
> > that everyday work to improove the system and make it up to date.
>
>  You can't say "Fedora is better than Windows" in a press release.
>
>
>  Clair
>
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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Francesco Ugolini]

Going http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5PressRelease i've read that:

Anaconda, the Fedora Core installer, has been completely rewritten to  
present a more streamlined interface that matches the new look and  
feel of Fedora Core 5.
Fedora Core 5 also brings major advancements in software management  
with the introduction of Pirut, a graphical interface to replace  
system-config-packages. Pirut helps manage the large number of  
software packages available in Fedora Core and Extras repositories.  
The software package updater, Pup, helps users keep pace with  
Fedora's rapid improvements.
For the first time, all of Fedora Core's tools for software  
installation and management share the same strong foundation: the  
package management utility Yum. This tight integration will lead to  
dramatic improvements in software management in future Fedora releases.

Linux Unified Key Support (LUKS) provides hard disk encryption  
support in Fedora Core 5; David Zeuthen of Red Hat, the HAL developer  
and maintainer, worked on the LUKS integration with HAL and GNOME,  
finishing just in time for the new Fedora Core release. Hard disk  
encryption provides one of the best physical security solutions --  
protection of your data if your hard disk falls into the wrong hands.



Il giorno 13/mar/06, alle ore 00:00, Clair ha scritto:

>  Once again, can we please take this to marketing?
>
>  On Sunday 12 March 2006 22:45, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> > I've made a press release to send to press at Wednesday 15, it is in
> > italian i resume the content here:
> >
> > A new, and more advance, distribution of Fedora is released today,
> > it's based on Linux and it's the most advance distribution that is
> > avaiable in this moment.
> >
> > Tha feautures are:
> >
> > Packet with same functionality are inserted in the Extras.
>
>  This doesn't make sense.
>
> > A new  packet manager with a better integration with Anaconda and Pup
> > updater.
>
>  This isn't true
>
> > Better start and close speed
>
>  Is this true? Has it been tested?
>
> > More cripted filesystem.
>
>  I don't think this is true.
>
> > After three years of works Fedora is became a sure alternative to
> > commercial OS, that are full of viruses. Fedora is free and
> > OpenSource and it has alternative software to commercial ones, such
> > as OpenOffice, Firefox, Gimp etc .... it is developed by volounteer
> > that everyday work to improove the system and make it up to date.
>
>  You can't say "Fedora is better than Windows" in a press release.
>
>
>  Clair
>
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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Clair]

On Sunday 12 March 2006 23:06, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>  Fedora Core 5 also brings major advancements in software management
>  with the introduction of Pirut, a graphical interface to replace
>  system-config-packages. Pirut helps manage the large number of
>  software packages available in Fedora Core and Extras repositories.
>  The software package updater, Pup, helps users keep pace with
>  Fedora's rapid improvements. 
It uses the yum package manager. Yum is still the same. It has nothing to do 
with anaconda. As it says below:

>  For the first time, all of Fedora Core's tools for software
>  installation and management share the same strong foundation: the
>  package management utility Yum. This tight integration will lead to
>  dramatic improvements in software management in future Fedora releases.
>
>  Linux Unified Key Support (LUKS) provides hard disk encryption
>  support in Fedora Core 5; David Zeuthen of Red Hat, the HAL developer
>  and maintainer, worked on the LUKS integration with HAL and GNOME,
>  finishing just in time for the new Fedora Core release. Hard disk
>  encryption provides one of the best physical security solutions --
>  protection of your data if your hard disk falls into the wrong hands. 
This isn't a new file system.


Clair

[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Jesse Keating]

On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 23:26 +0000, Clair wrote:
>  
>  It uses the yum package manager. Yum is still the same. It has nothing to do 
>  with anaconda. As it says below:  
Anaconda uses yum, which is new for FC5, that is noteworthy.  It is our
first step toward being able to install packages from other repos (like
Extras) while inside anaconda.

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Stephen Krenzel]

   This is in reference to the press release that Clair was quoting in her
first email of this thread.  While the points followed up with regard to yum
are right, the press release as a whole feels a little unprofessional. It
should be cleaned up a bit. Also, we shouldn't need to compare ourselves
with other alternative operating systems "full of viruses". Just announce
what's new, what the release brings to the field and how end users can
benefit and enjoy it. The product, I feel, is strong enough to speak for
itself, no need to deride alternatives. I think Fedora is above that and
doesn't need the senseless hand waving, regardless of what the alternatives
themselves may be doing. It appears the site:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5PressRelease is fine , so I'm not sure
where the press release Clair was quoting originated from, but I figured I'd
respond with my thoughts to avoid situations like that in the future. If
I've misinterpreted what was said, just let me know, same thing if you
disagree with me.
Regards,
    Steve

On 3/12/06, Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)j2solutions.net&gt; wrote:
>  On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 23:26 +0000, Clair wrote:
>  >
>  > It uses the yum package manager. Yum is still the same. It has nothing
>  to do
>  > with anaconda. As it says below:
>
>  Anaconda uses yum, which is new for FC5, that is noteworthy.  It is our
>  first step toward being able to install packages from other repos (like
>  Extras) while inside anaconda.
>
>  --
>  Jesse Keating RHCE      (geek.j2solutions.net)
>  Fedora Legacy Team      ( www.fedoralegacy.org)
>  GPG Public Key          (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
>
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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Clair]

On Monday 13 March 2006 01:08, Stephen Krenzel wrote:
> I'm not sure
>  where the press release Clair was quoting originated from, but I figured
>  I'd respond with my thoughts to avoid situations like that in the future.
>  If I've misinterpreted what was said, just let me know, same thing if you
>  disagree with me. 
Ah, sorry, the fun of cross-posting :)

It was in reply to a post made to the ambassador's list. I'm not sure if the 
original poster is in fact subscribed to this list (but he should be)


Clair

[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Patrick W. Barnes]

These are all moot points, and this thread is virtually pointless.

An official press release is already in the works.  It will be the only 
official press release.  It can be translated and will be available for 
redistribution.  Any other production under the Fedora name is unauthorized.

If you wish to work on the official press release, please get in touch with 
the Documentation Project, as it has already passed out of Marketing and is 
in their hands.

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Francesco Ugolini]

Yes, i did't know that in fedoraproject.org were a Official press  
release. I have, however, talk with us about this and we have solve  
the question.

As you can see, i'm a newbie :-) .

Francesco Ugolini

Il giorno 13/mar/06, alle ore 02:45, Patrick Barnes ha scritto:

>  An official press release is already in the works.  It will be the  
>  only
>  official press release.  It can be translated and will be available  
>  for
>  redistribution.  Any other production u

[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Press release for new Fedora 5

[Francesco Ugolini]

Ok, thanks very much i follow what you and clair told me.

Best regards

Francesco Ugolini


Il giorno 13/mar/06, alle ore 02:08, Stephen Krenzel ha scritto:

>     This is in reference to the press release that Clair was quoting 
>
>  in her first email of this thread.  While the points followed up  
>  with regard to yum are right, the press release as a whole feels a  
>  little unprofessional. It should be cleaned up a bit. Also, we  
>  shouldn't need to compare ourselves with other alternative  
>  operating systems "full of viruses". Just announce what's new, what  
>  the release brings to the field and how end users can benefit and  
>  enjoy it. The product, I feel, is strong enough to speak for  
>  itself, no need to deride alternatives. I think Fedora is above  
>  that and doesn't need the senseless hand waving, regardless of what  
>  the alternatives themselves may be doing. It appears the site:  
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5PressRelease is fine , so I'm not  
>  sure where the press release Clair was quoting originated from, but  
>  I figured I'd respond with my thoughts to avoid situations like  
>  that in the future. If I've misinterpreted what was said, just let  
>  me know, same thing if you disagree with me.
>  Regards,
>      Steve
>
>  On 3/12/06, Jesse Keating < jkeating(a)j2solutions.net&gt; wrote:
>  On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 23:26 +0000, Clair wrote:
>  >
>  > It uses the yum package manager. Yum is still the same. It has  
>  nothing to do
>  > with anaconda. As it says below:
>
>  Anaconda uses yum, which is new for FC5, that is noteworthy.  It is  
>  our
>  first step toward being able to install packages from other repos  
>  (like
>  Extras) while inside anaconda.
>
>  --
>  Jesse Keating RHCE      ( geek.j2solutions.net)
>  Fedora Legacy Team      ( www.fedoralegacy.org)
>  GPG Public Key          ( geek.j2solutions.net/ 
>  jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
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