Hey all,
Can I get some feedback on this? The third is an easy answer - but the first two are a little trickier. Why can't people just send an e-mail, and I have no idea about legal!
Best,
Jon
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
We've created a channel in Miro, Fedora TV, for use by the marketing team with things like screencast tutorials/video interviews etc and we want to make it easy for community people to submit their content.
To do this, we planned to create a simple web form that collects the users' data (Name, e-mail, video URL etc) and then sends that off to an e-mail address. This e-mail address could either belong to a single editor or a mailing list (the latter is preferred), so that we can check it's relevant before adding it to the main channel feed for all the world to see.
We have a simple script in PHP to collect this form information and e-mail it, and providing people don't think there are better approaches to this, we would like to get it hosted so that we can use it on Fedora Websites.
So I've got a couple of questions.... First of which being why can't people just email this stuff?
Second being, and this is probably a question for legal, in order to submit that stuff to us via a web form, wouldn't we need to require cla done?
Third being, how large of files are we talking about emailing around (be very specific)? Email and video often seem ill suited to eachother.
-Mike
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On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 14:58 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
Hey all,
Can I get some feedback on this? The third is an easy answer - but the first two are a little trickier. Why can't people just send an e-mail, and I have no idea about legal!
No idea about the email part -- it sounds do-able, certainly. As for legal, if people are submitting this to something not hosted by Fedora, I don't think our CLA would apply anyway. If we host this kind of channel ourselves, then it does, and people *should* have to complete the CLA.
Paul
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike McGrath mmcgrath@redhat.com Date: 2008/6/17 Subject: Re: Fedora TV Submission Form - PHP To: fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
We've created a channel in Miro, Fedora TV, for use by the marketing team with things like screencast tutorials/video interviews etc and we want to make it easy for community people to submit their content.
To do this, we planned to create a simple web form that collects the users' data (Name, e-mail, video URL etc) and then sends that off to an e-mail address. This e-mail address could either belong to a single editor or a mailing list (the latter is preferred), so that we can check it's relevant before adding it to the main channel feed for all the world to see.
We have a simple script in PHP to collect this form information and e-mail it, and providing people don't think there are better approaches to this, we would like to get it hosted so that we can use it on Fedora Websites.
So I've got a couple of questions.... First of which being why can't people just email this stuff?
Second being, and this is probably a question for legal, in order to submit that stuff to us via a web form, wouldn't we need to require cla done?
Third being, how large of files are we talking about emailing around (be very specific)? Email and video often seem ill suited to eachother.
-Mike
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
So I've got a couple of questions.... First of which being why can't people just email this stuff?
They can.
How did people add feeds to the planet before it was recently automated? Didn't we essentially email someone and ask them to add our feed?
Second being, and this is probably a question for legal, in order to submit that stuff to us via a web form, wouldn't we need to require cla done?
Did people need to have a cla done before adding their feeds to the planet before we automated it?
Third being, how large of files are we talking about emailing around (be very specific)? Email and video often seem ill suited to eachother.
Until we have internal hosting set aside for content like this... then there is no real space burden.
Basically all 'we' are doing right now is compiling a specially formatted RSS feed by hand. At the moment, it really comes down to John acting as an editor for an RSS feed he is accountable for. Adding items to the feed based on his best judgment. By branding it as Fedora channel, we are trusting John's judgment. All I ask is that John make a best effort to assure that the videos he adds are appropriately licensed in a way that is compatible with the project, CC-BY-SA.
Of course if this is a useful and popular way to contribute, John will no longer scale as the number of submissions goes up. At that point we'll have to build a structure to support submission in a more organized way. I'm pretty sure submission into the RSS feed would never require a CLA. If videos are hosted externally, we are essentially just linking to them not distributing them. We'd need to make sure we have permission to link and make sure the videos are licensed in a way we are okay with..but that can be handled via RSS submission requests on a per video basis. And similarly, John would have to handle removal requests on a video by video basis if any came in.
We may need a group of editors to handle the submission que if this becomes wildly popular and we expand the scope of the types of content we want to broadcast on our branded channel(s). Any project hosting and distribution of the videos will most certainly require a CLA of some sort. We'd most likely would give an editorial board control over how to control the contents of that hosting space. So as long as the editor board had CLA's and all the videos were licensed CC-BY-SA, we've pretty much covered are bases for hosting and distribution. We hold the editorial board accountable as co-maintainers of that hosted material.
-jef
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