Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Jiri Eischmann]

Hi,
at last year's Flock I announced Fedora Handbook (a "getting started
with Fedora" guide that is printed and can be give away at event etc.).
Because it was created in the Czech community, the original is in
Czech. The handbook was very successful at Czech events, so we
translated it to English, so that it could be used abroad and
translated to other languages.
We have initial English translation, but it's rough and it needs a lot
of proofreading and rewriting which is something that needs to be done
by a native speaker.
It's written in AsciiDoc, easily readable and editable format: https://
github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc

Any volunteer to help? It'd be great to have it finished and printed
for Flock 2016. All I need is final text, we'll take care of
typesetting and printing.

Jiri

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Priyanka Nag]

Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical Writer at Red
Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know if I can be of any
help and I will begin working on it accordingly.

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jiri Eischmann 
wrote:
> Hi,
> at last year's Flock I announced Fedora Handbook (a "getting started
> with Fedora" guide that is printed and can be give away at event etc.).
> Because it was created in the Czech community, the original is in
> Czech. The handbook was very successful at Czech events, so we
> translated it to English, so that it could be used abroad and
> translated to other languages.
> We have initial English translation, but it's rough and it needs a lot
> of proofreading and rewriting which is something that needs to be done
> by a native speaker.
> It's written in AsciiDoc, easily readable and editable format: https://
> github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc
>
> Any volunteer to help? It'd be great to have it finished and printed
> for Flock 2016. All I need is final text, we'll take care of
> typesetting and printing.
> Jiri
>
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Jiri Eischmann]

Priyanka Nag píše v St 11. 05. 2016 v 14:16 +0530:
> Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical Writer at
> Red Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know if I can
> be of any help and I will begin working on it accordingly.

Hi,
you can just fork the repo, make changes and do a pull request. It'd be
good to let others know what you're working now right now to prevent
situations when several people are working on the same text.

Jiri
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jiri Eischmann <[e-mail]
> > wrote:
> > Hi,
> > at last year's Flock I announced Fedora Handbook (a "getting
> > started
> > with Fedora" guide that is printed and can be give away at event
> > etc.).
> > Because it was created in the Czech community, the original is in
> > Czech. The handbook was very successful at Czech events, so we
> > translated it to English, so that it could be used abroad and
> > translated to other languages.
> > We have initial English translation, but it's rough and it needs a
> > lot
> > of proofreading and rewriting which is something that needs to be
> > done
> > by a native speaker.
> > It's written in AsciiDoc, easily readable and editable
> > format: https://
> > github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc
> >
> > Any volunteer to help? It'd be great to have it finished and
> > printed
> > for Flock 2016. All I need is final text, we'll take care of
> > typesetting and printing.
> > Jiri
> >
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > oject.org
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> ect.org

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Brian Exelbierd]

On May 11, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann  wrote:
> Priyanka Nag píše v St 11. 05. 2016 v 14:16 +0530:
> > Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical Writer at
> > Red Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know if I can
> > be of any help and I will begin working on it accordingly.
>
> Hi,
> you can just fork the repo, make changes and do a pull request. It'd be
> good to let others know what you're working now right now to prevent
> situations when several people are working on the same text.

I've submitted PRs for Chapters 01, 02, 03 04 and 06.  I haven't had a chance to do much with 04 and 05.

Can you help clarify the target market for this document?

regards,

bex
> Jiri
> > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jiri Eischmann <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > at last year's Flock I announced Fedora Handbook (a "getting
> > > started
> > > with Fedora" guide that is printed and can be give away at event
> > > etc.).
> > > Because it was created in the Czech community, the original is in
> > > Czech. The handbook was very successful at Czech events, so we
> > > translated it to English, so that it could be used abroad and
> > > translated to other languages.
> > > We have initial English translation, but it's rough and it needs a
> > > lot
> > > of proofreading and rewriting which is something that needs to be
> > > done
> > > by a native speaker.
> > > It's written in AsciiDoc, easily readable and editable
> > > format: https://
> > > github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc
> > >
> > > Any volunteer to help? It'd be great to have it finished and
> > > printed
> > > for Flock 2016. All I need is final text, we'll take care of
> > > typesetting and printing.
> > > Jiri
> > >
> > > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > > oject.org
> >
> > --
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > ect.org
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Jiri Eischmann]

Brian (bex) Exelbierd píše v Pá 13. 05. 2016 v 22:16 +0200:
> On May 11, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann 
> wrote:
> > Priyanka Nag píše v St 11. 05. 2016 v 14:16 +0530:
> > > Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical Writer
> > > at
> > > Red Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know if I
> > > can
> > > be of any help and I will begin working on it accordingly.
> >
> > Hi,
> > you can just fork the repo, make changes and do a pull request.
> > It'd be
> > good to let others know what you're working now right now to
> > prevent
> > situations when several people are working on the same text.
>
> I've submitted PRs for Chapters 01, 02, 03 04 and 06.  I haven't had
> a chance to do much with 04 and 05.
>
> Can you help clarify the target market for this document?

It's for users who are new to Linux and know very little about Linux
and Fedora.
It's stuff we give to users at our conference booth when we shortly
introduce Fedora to someone and he/she wants to learn more. Or we give
it to high school/university students at events such as Open House:
Wanna start with Linux? Take this, it should help you get started.

So it should get a user from learning about Fedora at our booth/event
to having it installed on their computers. It doesn't aim to provide
comprehensive docs of Fedora. Just basic info about concepts, our
values, advantages of Fedora, where to get it, how to install it, how
to install apps, how the desktop works, where to find more info/help.

Jiri
> > Jiri
> > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@redhat
> > > .com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > at last year's Flock I announced Fedora Handbook (a "getting
> > > > started
> > > > with Fedora" guide that is printed and can be give away at
> > > > event
> > > > etc.).
> > > > Because it was created in the Czech community, the original is
> > > > in
> > > > Czech. The handbook was very successful at Czech events, so we
> > > > translated it to English, so that it could be used abroad and
> > > > translated to other languages.
> > > > We have initial English translation, but it's rough and it
> > > > needs a
> > > > lot
> > > > of proofreading and rewriting which is something that needs to
> > > > be
> > > > done
> > > > by a native speaker.
> > > > It's written in AsciiDoc, easily readable and editable
> > > > format: https://
> > > > github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc
> > > >
> > > > Any volunteer to help? It'd be great to have it finished and
> > > > printed
> > > > for Flock 2016. All I need is final text, we'll take care of
> > > > typesetting and printing.
> > > > Jiri
> > > >
> > > > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > > > rapr
> > > > oject.org
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > > proj
> > > ect.org
> >
> > --
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > oject.org
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> ect.org

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Brian Exelbierd]

On May 14, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Jiri Eischmann  wrote:
> Brian (bex) Exelbierd píše v Pá 13. 05. 2016 v 22:16 +0200:
> > On May 11, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann 
> > wrote:
> > > Priyanka Nag píše v St 11. 05. 2016 v 14:16 +0530:
> > > > Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical Writer
> > > > at
> > > > Red Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know if I
> > > > can
> > > > be of any help and I will begin working on it accordingly.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > you can just fork the repo, make changes and do a pull request.
> > > It'd be
> > > good to let others know what you're working now right now to
> > > prevent
> > > situations when several people are working on the same text.
> >
> > I've submitted PRs for Chapters 01, 02, 03 04 and 06.  I haven't had
> > a chance to do much with 04 and 05.
> >
> > Can you help clarify the target market for this document?
>
> It's for users who are new to Linux and know very little about Linux
> and Fedora.
> It's stuff we give to users at our conference booth when we shortly
> introduce Fedora to someone and he/she wants to learn more. Or we give
> it to high school/university students at events such as Open House:
> Wanna start with Linux? Take this, it should help you get started.
>
> So it should get a user from learning about Fedora at our booth/event
> to having it installed on their computers. It doesn't aim to provide
> comprehensive docs of Fedora. Just basic info about concepts, our
> values, advantages of Fedora, where to get it, how to install it, how
> to install apps, how the desktop works, where to find more info/help.

Sounds good.  I've opened some issues and submitted some PRs.  I'll keep working as I get feedback and time.

regards,

bex

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hi!

Once I get my laptop back I can translate some parts to Spanish if it's
that OK for you.

Cheers,
Sylvia

On Tuesday, 17 May 2016, Brian (bex) Exelbierd  wrote:
> On May 14, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Jiri Eischmann <[e-mail]
> javascript:;> wrote:
> > Brian (bex) Exelbierd píše v Pá 13. 05. 2016 v 22:16 +0200:
> > > On May 11, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann <[e-mail]
>
> javascript:;>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Priyanka Nag píše v St 11. 05. 2016 v 14:16 +0530:
> > > > > Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical Writer
> > > > > at
> > > > > Red Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know if I
> > > > > can
> > > > > be of any help and I will begin working on it accordingly.
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > you can just fork the repo, make changes and do a pull request.
> > > > It'd be
> > > > good to let others know what you're working now right now to
> > > > prevent
> > > > situations when several people are working on the same text.
> > >
> > > I've submitted PRs for Chapters 01, 02, 03 04 and 06.  I haven't had
> > > a chance to do much with 04 and 05.
> > >
> > > Can you help clarify the target market for this document?
> >
> > It's for users who are new to Linux and know very little about Linux
> > and Fedora.
> > It's stuff we give to users at our conference booth when we shortly
> > introduce Fedora to someone and he/she wants to learn more. Or we give
> > it to high school/university students at events such as Open House:
> > Wanna start with Linux? Take this, it should help you get started.
> >
> > So it should get a user from learning about Fedora at our booth/event
> > to having it installed on their computers. It doesn't aim to provide
> > comprehensive docs of Fedora. Just basic info about concepts, our
> > values, advantages of Fedora, where to get it, how to install it, how
> > to install apps, how the desktop works, where to find more info/help.
>
> Sounds good.  I've opened some issues and submitted some PRs.  I'll keep
> working as I get feedback and time.
>
> regards,
>
> bex

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Brian Exelbierd]

Now that we have several languages becoming possible, should we talk to 
the Fedora Translators about how to best manage this?

regards,

bex

On 05/17/2016 02:52 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Once I get my laptop back I can translate some parts to Spanish if it's
> that OK for you.
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvia
>
> On Tuesday, 17 May 2016, Brian (bex) Exelbierd <[e-mail]
> > wrote:
> On May 14, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Jiri Eischmann <[e-mail]
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>  >
>  > Brian (bex) Exelbierd píše v Pá 13. 05. 2016 v 22:16 +0200:
>  >> On May 11, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann
> <[e-mail] <javascript:;>>
>  >> wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>> Priyanka Nag píše v St 11. 05. 2016 v 14:16 +0530:
>  >>>> Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical Writer
>  >>>> at
>  >>>> Red Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know if I
>  >>>> can
>  >>>> be of any help and I will begin working on it accordingly.
>  >>>
>  >>> Hi,
>  >>> you can just fork the repo, make changes and do a pull request.
>  >>> It'd be
>  >>> good to let others know what you're working now right now to
>  >>> prevent
>  >>> situations when several people are working on the same text.
>  >>
>  >> I've submitted PRs for Chapters 01, 02, 03 04 and 06.  I haven't had
>  >> a chance to do much with 04 and 05.
>  >>
>  >> Can you help clarify the target market for this document?
>  >
>  > It's for users who are new to Linux and know very little about Linux
>  > and Fedora.
>  > It's stuff we give to users at our conference booth when we shortly
>  > introduce Fedora to someone and he/she wants to learn more. Or we
> give
>  > it to high school/university students at events such as Open House:
>  > Wanna start with Linux? Take this, it should help you get started.
>  >
>  > So it should get a user from learning about Fedora at our booth/event
>  > to having it installed on their computers. It doesn't aim to provide
>  > comprehensive docs of Fedora. Just basic info about concepts, our
>  > values, advantages of Fedora, where to get it, how to install it, how
>  > to install apps, how the desktop works, where to find more info/help.
>
> Sounds good.  I've opened some issues and submitted some PRs.  I'll
> keep working as I get feedback and time.
>
> regards,
>
> bex
>
>
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Justin W. Flory]

I think it would be a good idea to reach out the G11n team once there is 
a solid English version ready. Some of their team members may be able to 
advise more about how to go about proceeding with this.

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
[e-mail]

On 05/18/2016 05:52 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> Now that we have several languages becoming possible, should we talk to
> the Fedora Translators about how to best manage this?
>
> regards,
>
> bex
>
> On 05/17/2016 02:52 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Once I get my laptop back I can translate some parts to Spanish if it's
> > that OK for you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sylvia
> >
> > On Tuesday, 17 May 2016, Brian (bex) Exelbierd <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > On May 14, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Jiri Eischmann <[e-mail]
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Brian (bex) Exelbierd píše v Pá 13. 05. 2016 v 22:16 +0200:
> >  >> On May 11, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Jiri Eischmann
> > <[e-mail] <javascript:;>>
> >  >> wrote:
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Priyanka Nag píše v St 11. 05. 2016 v 14:16 +0530:
> >  >>>> Though I am not a native English speaker, I am a Technical
> >
> > Writer
> >      >>>> at
> >      >>>> Red Hat and can probably help with this project. Let me know
> > if I
> >      >>>> can
> >      >>>> be of any help and I will begin working on it accordingly.
> >      >>>
> >      >>> Hi,
> >      >>> you can just fork the repo, make changes and do a pull request.
> >      >>> It'd be
> >      >>> good to let others know what you're working now right now to
> >      >>> prevent
> >      >>> situations when several people are working on the same text.
> >      >>
> >      >> I've submitted PRs for Chapters 01, 02, 03 04 and 06.  I
> > haven't had
> >      >> a chance to do much with 04 and 05.
> >      >>
> >      >> Can you help clarify the target market for this document?
> >      >
> >      > It's for users who are new to Linux and know very little about
> > Linux
> >      > and Fedora.
> >      > It's stuff we give to users at our conference booth when we
> > shortly
> >      > introduce Fedora to someone and he/she wants to learn more. Or we
> >     give
> >      > it to high school/university students at events such as Open
> > House:
> >      > Wanna start with Linux? Take this, it should help you get started.
> >      >
> >      > So it should get a user from learning about Fedora at our
> > booth/event
> >      > to having it installed on their computers. It doesn't aim to
> > provide
> >      > comprehensive docs of Fedora. Just basic info about concepts, our
> >      > values, advantages of Fedora, where to get it, how to install
> > it, how
> >      > to install apps, how the desktop works, where to find more
> > info/help.
> > Sounds good.  I've opened some issues and submitted some PRs.  I'll
> > keep working as I get feedback and time.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > bex
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: Fedora Handbook - Call for Native Speakers

[Jona Azizaj]

I'd like to translate it also in albanian! Is the English version ready?

Cheers,
Jona

[Justin W. Flory]

On 10/17/2016 06:07 PM, Jona Azizaj wrote:
> I'd like to translate it also in albanian! Is the English version ready?
>
> Cheers,
> Jona

Hey Jona, this is a good question that I do not have the answer for... 
:) However, I've directly CC'd Jiri to this email as he is the most 
qualified person to answer this.

I've also CC'd the Translation mailing list, since I feel like this is a 
discussion that might also be relevant there, depending on how far along 
the English one is. For anyone just seeing this, this link might help 
explain the idea better:

https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/getting-started-with-fedora-handb...

Sorry for the slow response here.

[Jiri Eischmann]

Justin W. Flory píše v Út 01. 11. 2016 v 19:15 -0400:
> On 10/17/2016 06:07 PM, Jona Azizaj wrote:
> > I'd like to translate it also in albanian! Is the English version
> > ready?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jona
>
> Hey Jona, this is a good question that I do not have the answer
> for... 
> :) However, I've directly CC'd Jiri to this email as he is the most 
> qualified person to answer this.
>
> I've also CC'd the Translation mailing list, since I feel like this
> is a 
> discussion that might also be relevant there, depending on how far
> along 
> the English one is. For anyone just seeing this, this link might
> help 
> explain the idea better:
>
> https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/getting-started-with-fedor
> a-handbook/
>
> Sorry for the slow response here.

Hi Justin,
the handbook has its repo on Github:
https://github.com/lukaskotek/fedora-handbook-doc

Unfortunately it still hasn't been fully translated to English. We've
failed to finish it mainly due to lack of time.
Anyway, I think the handbook needs to be updated anyway because the
English translations are of the original version written in 2015. We're
already preparing an updated version in Czech, but it may be better to
update the English version first, make it the master and translate that
to other languages. To Czech, too, not the other way around.
Brian said he'd volunteer to hook it up with Zanata once the English
version is finished.

Jiri

[pedro andrade]

Greetings, Jiri.
I think this project crossed my eyes on anoher post where Master J(ustin) was also included. And im sorry if insisting on this tonic, but how can I start to translate it to Portuguese-PT?
I do realize that it’s not fully english translated, but it would be good to start working on it from what we  got already (:

Please, Please do let me know if and how I can help. it’s one of the most clever ideas to make fedora more friendly for everyone.

Regards.