Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
Add me, Jack: I'm a student at Cabrillo College in Aptos (Santa Cruz County), California. I'm an ambassador and I'm also the president (albeit outgoing president in the Fall) of the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group.
Let me know what I can do to help.
Larry Cafiero https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero
On 6/26/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
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Add me as well, I'm Grady Laksmono, I'm currently a Fedora Ambassador for Los Angeles, California. I'm a student at California State University, Los Angeles (www.calstatela.edu).
- Grady https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:GradyLaksmono
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Add me, Jack: I'm a student at Cabrillo College in Aptos (Santa Cruz County), California. I'm an ambassador and I'm also the president (albeit outgoing president in the Fall) of the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group.
Let me know what I can do to help.
Larry Cafiero https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero
On 6/26/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
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I don't know Grady am I eligible. I am from Nepal and also a Fedora Ambassador. I would be happy to help.
Tushar
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 23:07 -0700, Grady Laksmono wrote:
Add me as well, I'm Grady Laksmono, I'm currently a Fedora Ambassador for Los Angeles, California. I'm a student at California State University, Los Angeles (www.calstatela.edu).
- Grady
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:GradyLaksmono
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Add me, Jack: I'm a student at Cabrillo College in Aptos (Santa Cruz County), California. I'm an ambassador and I'm also the president (albeit outgoing president in the Fall) of the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group. Let me know what I can do to help. Larry Cafiero https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero On 6/26/08, Jack Aboutboul <jaa@redhat.com> wrote: > Hey All, > > I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told > that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora > and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple > of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I > tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus > ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox > Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body > about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events. > > Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info > session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is > constant action and interest in Fedora. > > There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week > at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially > launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from > various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so > far there is interest. > > Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people > had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over > the weekend, so that it can be presented next week. > > Thanks, > Jack > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list-- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
2008/6/27 Tushar Neupaney tushar.neupaney@gmail.com:
I don't know Grady am I eligible. I am from Nepal and also a Fedora Ambassador. I would be happy to help.
Tushar
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 23:07 -0700, Grady Laksmono wrote:
Add me as well, I'm Grady Laksmono, I'm currently a Fedora Ambassador for Los Angeles, California. I'm a student at California State University, Los Angeles (www.calstatela.edu).
- Grady
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:GradyLaksmono
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Add me, Jack: I'm a student at Cabrillo College in Aptos (Santa Cruz County), California. I'm an ambassador and I'm also the president (albeit outgoing president in the Fall) of the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group.
Let me know what I can do to help.
Larry Cafiero https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero
On 6/26/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
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I'm a student from France, part of the OpenSource software users club from my school. I'll be glad to help
Matthieu Rondeau
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hi.
I'm a student from Venezuela and Fedora Ambassador here, member of Venezuela's fedora community and some other LUG's arround the country. (almost all giving support and making all the art stuff)
If anything comes up I'll be glad to help :D
2008/6/28 Matthieu Rondeau mattr@fedoraproject.org:
2008/6/27 Tushar Neupaney tushar.neupaney@gmail.com:
I don't know Grady am I eligible. I am from Nepal and also a Fedora Ambassador. I would be happy to help.
Tushar
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 23:07 -0700, Grady Laksmono wrote:
Add me as well, I'm Grady Laksmono, I'm currently a Fedora Ambassador for Los Angeles, California. I'm a student at California State University, Los Angeles (www.calstatela.edu).
- Grady
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:GradyLaksmono
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Add me, Jack: I'm a student at Cabrillo College in Aptos (Santa Cruz County), California. I'm an ambassador and I'm also the president (albeit outgoing president in the Fall) of the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group.
Let me know what I can do to help.
Larry Cafiero https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero
On 6/26/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with
Fedora
and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which
I
tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next
week
at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
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Matthieu Rondeau
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Add me, Jack: I'm a student at Cabrillo College in Aptos (Santa Cruz County), California. I'm an ambassador and I'm also the president (albeit outgoing president in the Fall) of the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group.
Let me know what I can do to help.
Count me in too .. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology (Malaysia) .. already an ambassador and also one of the founding members of a FOSS user group in the university, the maintainer of a LAN Fedora mirror there, and also the admin for fedora-my :) ..
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 14:11 +0800, Izhar Firdaus wrote:
Count me in too .. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology (Malaysia) .. already an ambassador and also one of the founding members of a FOSS user group in the university, the maintainer of a LAN Fedora mirror there, and also the admin for fedora-my :) ..
Count me in too... I am a student from Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, Oklahoma.
Regards, Aravind
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote: <snip>
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Let me know what I can do in Pittsburgh, at CMU or Pitt.
-Yaakov
I want to do something related to this project here, in Florianópolis - Brazil. Here is our state's Federal University, so we have a big public :) I can also talk about Fedora to other universities students, too.
João Felipe Santos
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroublond@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
<snip> > There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week > at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially > launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from > various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so > far there is interest.
Let me know what I can do in Pittsburgh, at CMU or Pitt.
-Yaakov
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On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
I think there are a lot of people chomping at the bit to get something done. A framework to work inside of would help a lot. But beyond just being a rep... we need some guidance on how to tell students and faculty how to take on Fedora relevant work as academic projects.
From my personal point of view, I already know what Fedora relevant
work I want to encourage students to work on. I don't need a list of ideas, nor do I need a list of mentors. I'm pretty sure I can find individual existing contributors who would take on a student if I knock on the right doors inside our project.
But what I need to know is some advice on how to approach both students and faculty in a way that they continue to be open to the subtly corrosive effects of my continued manipulation. What are the selling points that I need to stress to the students? What are the selling points I need to stress to the faculty who are going to end up giving students some sort of academic credit and possibly a grade for the work as part of their academic career?
-jef
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
Thanks, Jack
Jack Aboutboul wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
Jack --
I think the idea of getting a foothold into colleges is a good one. I'm not entirely clear how advocating for Fedora in the school setting differs from what we would normally do as ambassadors, but I'm willing to be educated. :-)
What I would expect from such a program is, essentially, support for our evangelism as promote Fedora on campus. Swag is always nice -- it may not appeal so much to me, a 50-year-old freshman, as it does to younger students -- and
But bright ideas? Hmmm. I'm open to new ideas, but I can tell you what we're doing so far at Cabrillo College.
The Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group holds biweekly installfests during the school semesters (monthly during the summer). During new releases -- like the Fedora 9 release -- the installfests take on a "theme," and in the Fedora 9 instance it was "Hats Off to Fedora 9" back in May.
Generally speaking, there is always a Fedora presence at meetings and installfests (by me, for one, but we've also had another local ambassador, Karsten Wade, attend as well). There's no reason why we couldn't ramp that up to have info sessions and/or tech talk types of events on campus during the course of the school year.
One of the things we're doing at Cabrillo College is creating our own distro, called Seahawk GNU/Linux (the Seahawk is the Cabrillo mascot). Not that the world needs yet another distro, mind you, but we're using the project as a teaching tool more than an actual distro that will take the world by storm. Of course, it's based on Fedora.
How that translates into promotional value for Fedora is that those of us working on the project -- students in the Computer and Information Systems department primarily -- work specifically with Fedora and, as a result, gain a familiarity to it. Also, as Fedora is connected to the distro, those who get introduced to GNU/Linux through the school-based distro get a sort of introduction to Fedora as well (and, naturally, they might be inclined -- or urged -- to use Fedora).
For those who have stayed awake up to this point, thanks for reading.
Larry Cafiero http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero
On 6/28/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
Thanks, Jack
Jack Aboutboul wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
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Oops.
Second paragraph should read:
What I would expect from such a program is, essentially, support for our evangelism as promote Fedora on campus. Swag is always nice -- it may not appeal so much to me, a 50-year-old freshman, as it does to younger students -- and general promotional support in the form of providing software and other instructional materials to introduce students to Fedora, if they exist (and, to say the least, we can draw from our own experiences in promoting Fedora on campus).
Sorry
On 6/28/08, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Jack --
I think the idea of getting a foothold into colleges is a good one. I'm not entirely clear how advocating for Fedora in the school setting differs from what we would normally do as ambassadors, but I'm willing to be educated. :-)
What I would expect from such a program is, essentially, support for our evangelism as promote Fedora on campus. Swag is always nice -- it may not appeal so much to me, a 50-year-old freshman, as it does to younger students -- and
But bright ideas? Hmmm. I'm open to new ideas, but I can tell you what we're doing so far at Cabrillo College.
The Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group holds biweekly installfests during the school semesters (monthly during the summer). During new releases -- like the Fedora 9 release -- the installfests take on a "theme," and in the Fedora 9 instance it was "Hats Off to Fedora 9" back in May.
Generally speaking, there is always a Fedora presence at meetings and installfests (by me, for one, but we've also had another local ambassador, Karsten Wade, attend as well). There's no reason why we couldn't ramp that up to have info sessions and/or tech talk types of events on campus during the course of the school year.
One of the things we're doing at Cabrillo College is creating our own distro, called Seahawk GNU/Linux (the Seahawk is the Cabrillo mascot). Not that the world needs yet another distro, mind you, but we're using the project as a teaching tool more than an actual distro that will take the world by storm. Of course, it's based on Fedora.
How that translates into promotional value for Fedora is that those of us working on the project -- students in the Computer and Information Systems department primarily -- work specifically with Fedora and, as a result, gain a familiarity to it. Also, as Fedora is connected to the distro, those who get introduced to GNU/Linux through the school-based distro get a sort of introduction to Fedora as well (and, naturally, they might be inclined -- or urged -- to use Fedora).
For those who have stayed awake up to this point, thanks for reading.
Larry Cafiero http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero
On 6/28/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
Thanks, Jack
Jack Aboutboul wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
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Looks like, I have missed the conversation. Sorry for late reply. Add me in there too. I am from Bangladesh. Student of National University. I am also a Fedora Ambassador and I am working as the President of ¨Dhaka City College Linux User Group¨. Also I am working with Bangladesh Linux User Alliance.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Oops.
Second paragraph should read:
What I would expect from such a program is, essentially, support for our evangelism as promote Fedora on campus. Swag is always nice -- it may not appeal so much to me, a 50-year-old freshman, as it does to younger students -- and general promotional support in the form of providing software and other instructional materials to introduce students to Fedora, if they exist (and, to say the least, we can draw from our own experiences in promoting Fedora on campus).
Sorry
On 6/28/08, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Jack --
I think the idea of getting a foothold into colleges is a good one. I'm not entirely clear how advocating for Fedora in the school setting differs from what we would normally do as ambassadors, but I'm willing to be educated. :-)
What I would expect from such a program is, essentially, support for our evangelism as promote Fedora on campus. Swag is always nice -- it may not appeal so much to me, a 50-year-old freshman, as it does to younger students -- and
But bright ideas? Hmmm. I'm open to new ideas, but I can tell you what we're doing so far at Cabrillo College.
The Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group holds biweekly installfests during the school semesters (monthly during the summer). During new releases -- like the Fedora 9 release -- the installfests take on a "theme," and in the Fedora 9 instance it was "Hats Off to Fedora 9" back in May.
Generally speaking, there is always a Fedora presence at meetings and installfests (by me, for one, but we've also had another local ambassador, Karsten Wade, attend as well). There's no reason why we couldn't ramp that up to have info sessions and/or tech talk types of events on campus during the course of the school year.
One of the things we're doing at Cabrillo College is creating our own distro, called Seahawk GNU/Linux (the Seahawk is the Cabrillo mascot). Not that the world needs yet another distro, mind you, but we're using the project as a teaching tool more than an actual distro that will take the world by storm. Of course, it's based on Fedora.
How that translates into promotional value for Fedora is that those of us working on the project -- students in the Computer and Information Systems department primarily -- work specifically with Fedora and, as a result, gain a familiarity to it. Also, as Fedora is connected to the distro, those who get introduced to GNU/Linux through the school-based distro get a sort of introduction to Fedora as well (and, naturally, they might be inclined -- or urged -- to use Fedora).
For those who have stayed awake up to this point, thanks for reading.
Larry Cafiero http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero
On 6/28/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join,
but I
was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what
you
would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than
the
current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
Thanks, Jack
Jack Aboutboul wrote:
Hey All,
I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was
told
that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with
Fedora
and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past
couple
of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors
which I
tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the
Firefox
Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student
body
about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there
is
constant action and interest in Fedora.
There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next
week
at which I would like to present the final plan for this and
officially
launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students
from
various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and
so
far there is interest.
Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what
people
had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or
over
the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
Thanks, Jack
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hi,looks like ive missed a lot too.. Im a student myself and an Ambassador.. the ideas great (im in) .. however what exactly are we doing ?? i mean has a draft or something been drawn up?? Objectives etc?? plan of action ?? regards, --- On Sun, 29/6/08, Angel angel.fedora@gmail.com wrote: From: Angel angel.fedora@gmail.com Subject: Re: Recruiting Students (Campus Ambassadors) To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com Date: Sunday, 29 June, 2008, 3:39 PM
Looks like, I have missed the conversation. Sorry for late reply. Add me in there too. I am from Bangladesh. Student of National University. I am also a Fedora Ambassador and I am working as the President of ¨Dhaka City College Linux User Group¨. Also I am working with Bangladesh Linux User Alliance.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Oops.
Second paragraph should read:
What I would expect from such a program is, essentially, support for
our evangelism as promote Fedora on campus. Swag is always nice -- it
may not appeal so much to me, a 50-year-old freshman, as it does to
younger students -- and general promotional support in the form of
providing software and other instructional materials to introduce
students to Fedora, if they exist (and, to say the least, we can draw
from our own experiences in promoting Fedora on campus).
Sorry
On 6/28/08, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
Jack --
I think the idea of getting a foothold into colleges is a good one.
I'm not entirely clear how advocating for Fedora in the school setting
differs from what we would normally do as ambassadors, but I'm willing
to be educated. :-)
What I would expect from such a program is, essentially, support for
our evangelism as promote Fedora on campus. Swag is always nice -- it
may not appeal so much to me, a 50-year-old freshman, as it does to
younger students -- and
But bright ideas? Hmmm. I'm open to new ideas, but I can tell you what
we're doing so far at Cabrillo College.
The Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group holds biweekly installfests
during the school semesters (monthly during the summer). During new
releases -- like the Fedora 9 release -- the installfests take on a
"theme," and in the Fedora 9 instance it was "Hats Off to Fedora 9"
back in May.
Generally speaking, there is always a Fedora presence at meetings and
installfests (by me, for one, but we've also had another local
ambassador, Karsten Wade, attend as well). There's no reason why we
couldn't ramp that up to have info sessions and/or tech talk types of
events on campus during the course of the school year.
One of the things we're doing at Cabrillo College is creating our own
distro, called Seahawk GNU/Linux (the Seahawk is the Cabrillo mascot).
Not that the world needs yet another distro, mind you, but we're using
the project as a teaching tool more than an actual distro that will
take the world by storm. Of course, it's based on Fedora.
How that translates into promotional value for Fedora is that those of
us working on the project -- students in the Computer and Information
Systems department primarily -- work specifically with Fedora and, as
a result, gain a familiarity to it. Also, as Fedora is connected to
the distro, those who get introduced to GNU/Linux through the
school-based distro get a sort of introduction to Fedora as well (and,
naturally, they might be inclined -- or urged -- to use Fedora).
For those who have stayed awake up to this point, thanks for reading.
Larry Cafiero
On 6/28/08, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I
> was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you
> would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the
> current ambassadors setup.
>
> I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
>
> Jack Aboutboul wrote:
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm sorry I missed the marketing meeting earlier today, but I was told
> > that there was discussion of recruiting students to help out with Fedora
> > and Fedora marketing efforts. I have been working for the past couple
> > of weeks to put together something modeled after the ambassadors which I
> > tentatively call "Campus Ambassadors". The mission of the campus
> > ambassadors is something similar to what Mozilla does with the Firefox
> > Campus Rep program--to have someone who can speak to the student body
> > about Fedora and represent Fedora at relevant campus events.
> >
> > Also, I am looking to require campus ambassadors to hold one info
> > session or tech talk type thing per semester to make sure that there is
> > constant action and interest in Fedora.
> >
> > There will be a community architecture team meeting in Raleigh next week
> > at which I would like to present the final plan for this and officially
> > launch. I have already been in contact with a number of students from
> > various universities (Berkeley, Oswego, CMU, Auburn, Texas A&M) and so
> > far there is interest.
> >
> > Just thought I would kick the idea out to the list and see what people
> > had to say. My plan is to put up a wiki page for this tomorrow or over
> > the weekend, so that it can be presented next week.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jack
> >
> >
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My role at MIT is to try and make things easier for all Linux users whatever their skill level and whatever their preferred distribution.
In the past MIT had Project Athena which acted as a focal point and framework to get students involved in writing software and getting it out into the world. It seems to me that MIT has, if you will, "gone meta" on institutionally nurturing open source development. It's kind of assumed that MIT students will write software if necessary as part of some bigger world-changing activity.
Living in the trenches as I do, however, I am concerned that not enough attention is going into identifying talented and interested students, and giving them an entree into the process of getting their ideas cooked up tested out and put into the world. Yes there are exciting research projects where a community is formed and creative stuff is done, but when the project is over, everybody goes home and the lessons learned are published, not passed on.
Recognizing that I cannot get funding for a curriculum activity, and I need to assure important bureaucrats that I am not endorsing a product, or even putting MIT institutionally behind only one of many possible worthy Linux endeavors, I think the Fedora Community is a worthy framework.
What would I like to see from your program:
My goal is to help students interested in contributing to open source to find out if Fedora is right for them, and if so to make it easy for them to get involved, and to enlarge the MIT Linux talent pool.
Similarly to the position articulated by Jeff Spaleta, I need some advice in doing the outreach. What kinds of outreach have been done at other schools? What are the pieces to get this sort of thing started? Most importantly, how can I show that it would be a valuable thing to try with low risk to the bureaucrats?
Would I really get emails from students interested in participating in Linux support and development if I did nothing more than poster the campus?
-Bill
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On Jun 29, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Larry Cafiero wrote:
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
Thanks, Jack
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
A few thoughts now on reaching out to students ... perhaps later I'll add some thoughts about reaching out to faculty and researchers.
One thing that would be immensely helpful to all campus communities is promotional materials that could be distributed around campus. I don't mean swag, but rather informational items like posters. Linux meetings reach only a tiny part of campus. We need to catch the eye of people all over campus. Posters located in the Design College just might catch the eye of some budding graphics designer who would love a project where their art might actually be used for example, but they are unlikely candidates for attending a local LUG/FUG meeting. How many marketing majors are aware that there are real life marketing opportunities for them within the Fedora project while they are still students? Reaching these students should be one focus of any campus outreach.
If promotional material could be targeted to specific areas of need that would be helpful too in getting the idea across to the technical writing student that Fedora has something for *them* to do to contribute. We can make students aware of Fedora with general Fedora events, banners, posters. If we want new students to become actively involved they need to see how they can contribute to the project by doing things they are interested in doing. Not just look and say, "oh Fedora, that's cool" as they walk by.
Similarly it would be nice to reach students more widely than we can now when recruiting participants for Summer of Code projects or for Fedora intern positions. While faculty is generally receptive to passing along information about such opportunities to students there is a limit to what can be expected of busy faculty members. Taping up a poster outside the office or in the classroom is not too much of a burden.
In all campus advertising I think it is really critical to make it easy for the student to contact someone who can help guide them along in their first steps. Ideally, I think there should be a local contact on each promotional item. That way someone they can talk to directly can help them join the Fedora project and mediate a contact between the student and an appropriate mentor whether that mentor is local or someone within the broader Fedora community.
John
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program?
I think ambassadors targeting colleges and universities is an excellent direction. These are the folks that are going to influence various decisions and how work is done in the future. Exposing them to open source tools, philosophies and Fedora while in school is a great way to both bolster the number of contributors to the project and build a user base.
Several have already made excellent suggestions already as to more specific areas to target and such.
I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
Given that many of the responders to the thread are already Fedora Ambassadors and ready to help, why do you want a different setup than the current ambassadors? If the current isn't seen as working well - then lets focus on fixing that so both ambassadors working on a college campus and those of us working at open source conferences and events can all benefit.
What do we gain by not working within the Ambassador framework for this? I think this is a project that fits under the Ambassador group quite nicely and would let us build on lessons already learned by that group and also allow for lessons learned by ambassadors working on college campuses to feed back into the ambassador group as well.
Regards, Jeffrey
Jeffrey Tadlock wrote:
Given that many of the responders to the thread are already Fedora Ambassadors and ready to help, why do you want a different setup than the current ambassadors? If the current isn't seen as working well - then lets focus on fixing that so both ambassadors working on a college campus and those of us working at open source conferences and events can all benefit.
What do we gain by not working within the Ambassador framework for this? I think this is a project that fits under the Ambassador group quite nicely and would let us build on lessons already learned by that group and also allow for lessons learned by ambassadors working on college campuses to feed back into the ambassador group as well.
Regards, Jeffrey
The main reasons for this working outside of ambassadors is that we are going to have a different governance model around this and the goals will be slightly different....
Jack
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
The main reasons for this working outside of ambassadors is that we are going to have a different governance model around this and the goals will be slightly different....
I'm looking specifically to put students/faculty with academic project requirements in touch with existing Fedora Project technical needs that could make adequate use of term limited student manpower to get something specific and well scoped done. If students as part of their degrees need to work on a year or semester long project, I want Fedora to be obvious place to look for compelling things to work on, with an aim towards well scoped projects that have a good chance for long lived utility. Ie, things we know we'd like to see people take a stab a doing, and we would attempt then pick up and maintain once the student completes their academic project time period. I hate seeing good academic project die because there was no real plan to hand them off outside of that academic group which incubated them. I think we do better.
I frankly don't care under what group I have to work under to help achieve that. If I can build these sorts of bridges under a Campus specific outreach group which requires me to put in some "face time" by giving a tech talk on a periodic basis.. so be it. Whatever makes the most sense to get our foot in the door so we can start generating sustainable student involvement.
-jef
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
The main reasons for this working outside of ambassadors is that we are going to have a different governance model around this and the goals will be slightly different....
I'm looking specifically to put students/faculty with academic project requirements in touch with existing Fedora Project technical needs that could make adequate use of term limited student manpower to get something specific and well scoped done. If students as part of their degrees need to work on a year or semester long project, I want Fedora to be obvious place to look for compelling things to work on, with an aim towards well scoped projects that have a good chance for long lived utility. Ie, things we know we'd like to see people take a stab a doing, and we would attempt then pick up and maintain once the student completes their academic project time period. I hate seeing good academic project die because there was no real plan to hand them off outside of that academic group which incubated them. I think we do better.
I absolutely agree and that is one of the aims of this, to link up students with current Fedora contributors who may need/require help. I have spoken to several institutions about this specific model and we have done things like this in the past but nothing formally. I *really* want to formalize this process as well and get some momentum around it.
Jack
Sure,
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
I think it would be great to have a class that just focuses on open source tools. I think I might have spoken to you about this before. CS classes seem to be missing some practical lessons, like what to do when your computer fails, how to install an operating system and programs, how to build up a customized IDE, how to work with source control, how to fiddle with an email program, and completely ignores classical errors especially when working with real world libraries taht can spit up any number of exceptions.
I think the lesson would follow something like this: Day 1: Learn about GPG, homework, make GPG keys and submit them to a server Day 2: Key signing party. All homework will be signed with your GPG key Day 3: Error codes and exceptions, homework, here's a broken piece of hardware, read a file or character stream from it.
Etc....
-Yaakov
hi all:
i believe each ambassador has a plan to hold the perfection of Fedora Community. Let find and give some option to the new people who really wants to help Fedora and its Community. In this way, we can make a difference to the goal. The Ambassadors should be a guide of those Student Ambassador and help them when and whenever they want. More than, encourage them to the best. Once again, the aim of Fedora ambassadors are different than Student Ambassadors. We should work beside the student network and let them learn one step ahead to make Fedora more wide in marketing.
Regards,
Rashadul Islam ---------------------- Fedora Ambassador Home Site: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RashadulIslam
On 6/30/08, Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroublond@gmail.com wrote:
Sure,
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com wrote:
Hey All,
I appreciate all the enthusiasm, I know you guys are eager to join, but I was more curious in what you guys felt about the actual idea and what you would expect out of such a program? I want it to be different than the current ambassadors setup.
I know you guys have some bright ideas--let me hear them.
I think it would be great to have a class that just focuses on open source tools. I think I might have spoken to you about this before. CS classes seem to be missing some practical lessons, like what to do when your computer fails, how to install an operating system and programs, how to build up a customized IDE, how to work with source control, how to fiddle with an email program, and completely ignores classical errors especially when working with real world libraries taht can spit up any number of exceptions.
I think the lesson would follow something like this: Day 1: Learn about GPG, homework, make GPG keys and submit them to a server Day 2: Key signing party. All homework will be signed with your GPG key Day 3: Error codes and exceptions, homework, here's a broken piece of hardware, read a file or character stream from it.
Etc....
-Yaakov
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2008/6/27 Jack Aboutboul jaa@redhat.com:
Hey All,
Count me in too... I am teacher from Universidad Central, in Chile, and work for Red Hat Chile as Consultant. I'm ambassador from Santiago de Chile and can help u in all.
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