[Magazine] Planning ahead for this Friday

[Justin W. Flory]

Hi all,

I'm forwarding this email on behalf of Chaoyi (cydrobolt) – he was 
having issues posting to the mailing list and this was a time-sensitive 
topic. I chose a somewhat ambiguous subject to keep it low-key for if we 
go with this to keep the surprise element.

* * * * *

Hey all!

As you may know, April Fool's is coming up this Friday. For those 
unaware, it is a day where many people and organisations play "pranks" 
by writing interesting articles.

For instance, Microsoft recently has posted an article about "bash in 
Windows 10", which also includes a section joking about the availability 
of Ubuntu binaries within Windows 10.

Justin and I were thinking about publishing an April Fool's article on 
Fedora Magazine. Some ideas included "Internet Explorer now default 
internet browser in Fedora 24" or "Fedora will support sticky keys in 
Fedora 24"

If we made an April Fool's article about Internet Explorer (r), we would 
be using a Microsoft trademark. However, the usage should be covered 
under fair use because it is a parody and “use of some elements of a 
prior author’s composition to create a new one that, at least in part, 
comments on that author’s works.” (Campbell v. AcuffRose Music, Inc.)

See 
https://apps.americanbar.org/litigation/committees/intellectual/roundtabl...

I think the post about Internet Explorer could be interesting, and 
sticky keys would also be a quite interesting post. It would help us 
garner free publicity and enjoy a good joke :)

After April Fool's, we can mend the article to show that it was an April 
Fool's prank. It seems only fair since Microsoft has made April Fool's 
pranks about Linux for many years in a row :)

Any input is appreciated! You may also ping us on #fedora-mktg

If either of these ideas are good, I can draft an article and get it 
ready to publish before April 1st :)

Cheers,
Chaoyi

* * * * *

-- 
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

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[Huiren Woo]

Hey all,

I think this, although very last minute, is a fantastic idea! I've got some
ideas I would like to contribute (I would be happy to help edit the article
to include these technical details) as well.

So here are some of it:

-Met Microsoft Chakra team at BrickHack.
-Interested in collaborating with us

-Why Edge

--Chakra core is OSS
--Chakra core has fantastic ES2015 support
--Chakra core is highly comparable against Chrome V8 engine
--Fedora infrastructure runs NodeJS w Chakra Core

-How

--Working with OSS Microsoft team
--Developing fully FOSS version of Edge (will be uploaded on Github later)


-Maybe some edited screenshots of Edge on Fedora?

Minor corrections:

- IE no longer exists, it is now Microsoft Edge.

What do y'all think of this? Thanks! :)

Best Regards,
Woo Huiren
Fedora Ambassador & Marketing

https://twitter.com/woohuiren

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[Chaoyi Zha]

Hi Huiren,

This sounds interesting! I appreciate your feedback, but I'm not sure that
we can infer that Microsoft is "collaborating" or endorses Fedora since it
is not true. That could get into a more lofty area that we might not want
to get involved with.

In regards to Chakra being open source, I think, inherently, the article is
making a joke, not proposing a real product or project. Hence, I think
talking about the open source components of Edge and "collaboration" would
be a bit of a grey area and a bit too convincing, perhaps?

Although Edge exists, I think IE is still available for download for those
who are looking for it. I think using IE rather than Edge might be a good
way to provide comedy value without getting into too many problems. Instead
of talking about details and aspects that might imply endorsement when
there is none, we could try parodying some well-known "issues" or aspects
of Fedora, for instance, its speed, its crashes, or its lack of
compatibility. We could also put in some edited screenshots for fun, if we
can get some before the end of the day tomorrow :)

What do you think?

Chaoyi



On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 at 21:13 Huiren Woo <giantcrabby(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hey all,
>
>  I think this, although very last minute, is a fantastic idea! I've got
>  some ideas I would like to contribute (I would be happy to help edit the
>  article to include these technical details) as well.
>
>  So here are some of it:
>
>  -Met Microsoft Chakra team at BrickHack.
>  -Interested in collaborating with us
>
>  -Why Edge
>
>  --Chakra core is OSS
>  --Chakra core has fantastic ES2015 support
>  --Chakra core is highly comparable against Chrome V8 engine
>  --Fedora infrastructure runs NodeJS w Chakra Core
>
>  -How
>
>  --Working with OSS Microsoft team
>  --Developing fully FOSS version of Edge (will be uploaded on Github later)
>
>
>  -Maybe some edited screenshots of Edge on Fedora?
>
>  Minor corrections:
>
>  - IE no longer exists, it is now Microsoft Edge.
>
>  What do y'all think of this? Thanks! :)
>
>  Best Regards,
>  Woo Huiren
>  Fedora Ambassador & Marketing
>
>  https://twitter.com/woohuiren
>  --
>  marketing mailing list
>  marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  List info or to change your subscription:
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

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[Chaoyi Zha]

Thinking about this a little more, I think it actually would be a good
possibility to add that some parts of Edge are open source, which could
help us "port" IE/Edge to Linux? Perhaps without the "endorsement"
part? :)

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 at 21:41 Chaoyi Zha <cydrobolt(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:

>  Hi Huiren,
>
>  This sounds interesting! I appreciate your feedback, but I'm not sure that
>  we can infer that Microsoft is "collaborating" or endorses Fedora since it
>  is not true. That could get into a more lofty area that we might not want
>  to get involved with.
>
>  In regards to Chakra being open source, I think, inherently, the article
>  is making a joke, not proposing a real product or project. Hence, I think
>  talking about the open source components of Edge and "collaboration" would
>  be a bit of a grey area and a bit too convincing, perhaps?
>
>  Although Edge exists, I think IE is still available for download for those
>  who are looking for it. I think using IE rather than Edge might be a good
>  way to provide comedy value without getting into too many problems. Instead
>  of talking about details and aspects that might imply endorsement when
>  there is none, we could try parodying some well-known "issues" or aspects
>  of Fedora, for instance, its speed, its crashes, or its lack of
>  compatibility. We could also put in some edited screenshots for fun, if we
>  can get some before the end of the day tomorrow :)
>
>  What do you think?
>
>  Chaoyi
>
>
>
>  On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 at 21:13 Huiren Woo <giantcrabby(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I think this, although very last minute, is a fantastic idea! I've got
> > some ideas I would like to contribute (I would be happy to help edit the
> > article to include these technical details) as well.
> >
> > So here are some of it:
> >
> > -Met Microsoft Chakra team at BrickHack.
> > -Interested in collaborating with us
> >
> > -Why Edge
> >
> > --Chakra core is OSS
> > --Chakra core has fantastic ES2015 support
> > --Chakra core is highly comparable against Chrome V8 engine
> > --Fedora infrastructure runs NodeJS w Chakra Core
> >
> > -How
> >
> > --Working with OSS Microsoft team
> > --Developing fully FOSS version of Edge (will be uploaded on Github later)
> >
> >
> > -Maybe some edited screenshots of Edge on Fedora?
> >
> > Minor corrections:
> >
> > - IE no longer exists, it is now Microsoft Edge.
> >
> > What do y'all think of this? Thanks! :)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Woo Huiren
> > Fedora Ambassador & Marketing
> >
> > https://twitter.com/woohuiren
> > --
> > marketing mailing list
> > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > List info or to change your subscription:
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>
>

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[Sylvia Sánchez]

I think it should be something less subtle.  I didn't even know that
Internet Explorer now it's called Edge or something like that.  About
Chakra...  I've got completely lost.  If nobody says it I'd took it
for good.
To me, it should be something more obvious, that anyone can read,
understand and have a laugh.



My thoughts,
Sylvia

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[Ryan Lerch]

Maybe I am just getting old and cranky, but IMHO, most of these April
Fool's "Jokes" that I have seen in recent years have made me cringe.

just my opinion, now get off my lawn.
--ryanlerch

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I think it should be something less subtle.  I didn't even know
> that
>  Internet Explorer now it's called Edge or something like that.  About
>  Chakra...  I've got completely lost.  If nobody says it I'd took it
>  for good.
>  To me, it should be something more obvious, that anyone can read,
>  understand and have a laugh.
>
>
>
>  My thoughts,
>  Sylvia
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>  marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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>

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[Paul W. Frields]

I don't think it's a young vs. old thing.

(1) April Fools Day doesn't translate everywhere, and we should be
seeking the widest possible international audience.

(2) Satire usually is about poking someone else in the eye, and that's
not good marketing.

(3) Your funny may be someone else's offense.  We should stick to
facts and features.

Let's leave this to other general and more snarky online venues,
please.

Paul

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:59:30PM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>  Maybe I am just getting old and cranky, but IMHO, most of these
> April
>  Fool's "Jokes" that I have seen in recent years have made me cringe.
>  
>  just my opinion, now get off my lawn.
>  --ryanlerch
>  
>  On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > I think it should be something less subtle.  I didn't even know that
>  > Internet Explorer now it's called Edge or something like that.  About
>  > Chakra...  I've got completely lost.  If nobody says it I'd took it
>  > for good.
>  > To me, it should be something more obvious, that anyone can read,
>  > understand and have a laugh.

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[James Hogarth]

On 31 March 2016 at 14:21, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I don't think it's a young vs. old thing.
>
>  (1) April Fools Day doesn't translate everywhere, and we should be
>  seeking the widest possible international audience.
>
>  (2) Satire usually is about poking someone else in the eye, and that's
>  not good marketing.
>
>  (3) Your funny may be someone else's offense.  We should stick to
>  facts and features.
>
>  Let's leave this to other general and more snarky online venues,
>  please.
>
>
>  
I can't see any *good* from doing April's fools articles ... I'd rather FM
is kept a sane island.

As for the mail originating this thread the Ubuntu userland (bash and
apt-get etc) on windows 10 isn't an April Fools ...