Re: desktop relevance

[Kam Salisbury]

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From:  Marcus Moeller 
Subj:  desktop relevance
Date:  Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:02 pm
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To:  For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base

Good Evening,

I was a bit disappointed to read the interview with Jim Whitehurst on
InfoWorld where he talked about (Red Hat's) Linux desktop's relevance.
On the one hand I agree with him that desktops will move more and more
to hosted applications or virtual frameworks. But besides that Red Hat
already offers a gread desktop product with a large userbase: Fedora.

Also web based components will be more and more integrated into
traditional desktop products. Please remember that there are still a
lot of people out there using old versions of Windows, too. These also
want to take part in the online future. So there will be backports and
browser plugins.

And note: Fedora does offer all of that great features, today.

But as InfoWorld is a traditionally business-oriented netmag the focus
was on 'making money with Linux desktops' I can somewhat understand
his position. You can earn more money with services and solutions. I
am just disappointed that it has not been clearly stated that the best
way to keep up on that road is to use free components and to improve
the (free) Linux desktop experience.

Best Regards
Marcus

desktop relevance

[Marcus Moeller]

Dear Kam,
> Hi Marcus, I am confused.
>
> It reads like your saying Fedora "is" Redhat. I thought it was a seperate distribution much like CentOS is seperate.

As Fedora is a Red Hat product it's part of Red Hat's portfolio. Maybe
not the business one but the general.

Best Regards
Marcus

desktop relevance

[Joerg Simon]

Am Donnerstag 26 März 2009 11:14:46 schrieb Marcus Moeller:
> As Fedora is a Red Hat product it's part of Red Hat's portfolio. Maybe
> not the business one but the general.

This is a risky statement! Explore the Wiki and the list-archives about co-
branding etc. 
I think we have put so much effort to be accepted as Community in the past 
years, that it would be a shame to ruin that with such a misstatement!
If you want to pay for our booth next time - because that is not RedHats 
bussines - keep going :)

CU Joerg

desktop relevance

[Marcus Moeller]

Dear Joerg.
> This is a risky statement! Explore the Wiki and the list-archives about co-
> branding etc.
> I think we have put so much effort to be accepted as Community in the past
> years, that it would be a shame to ruin that with such a misstatement!
> If you want to pay for our booth next time - because that is not RedHats
> bussines - keep going :)

Okay, I understand the differences, but there are still a lot of
dependencies between the company and the project (e.g some kind of
'upstream' for their enterprise products).

Btw. is Fedora completly driven by 'The Fedora Foundation is a 501(c)3
nonprofit organization' ?

Best Regards
Marcus

desktop relevance

[Rahul Sundaram]

Marcus Moeller wrote:
> Dear Joerg.
> > This is a risky statement! Explore the Wiki and the list-archives about co-
> > branding etc.
> > I think we have put so much effort to be accepted as Community in the past
> > years, that it would be a shame to ruin that with such a misstatement!
> > If you want to pay for our booth next time - because that is not RedHats
> > bussines - keep going :)
>
> Okay, I understand the differences, but there are still a lot of
> dependencies between the company and the project (e.g some kind of
> 'upstream' for their enterprise products).
>
> Btw. is Fedora completly driven by 'The Fedora Foundation is a 501(c)3
> nonprofit organization' ?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundation

Rahul

desktop relevance

[Joerg Simon]

Am Donnerstag 26 März 2009 13:27:04 schrieb Marcus Moeller:
> Btw. is Fedora completly driven by 'The Fedora Foundation is a 501(c)3
> nonprofit organization' ?

Fedora is driven the Community, enabled by the steering committees and the 
fedora board. The Fedora Foundation NPO 501(c)3  does not exist right now, as 
you can read in the wiki - Rahul has sent you the link. 
There are regional Fedora related NPO's as example Fedora EMEA e.V. with non-
profit Status in Germany/Europe, who is working as a ressource bridge to enable 
us to scale the budget and make it transparent. The work is done by the 
community and the decissions are made by the community.

CU Joerg

desktop relevance

[Marcus Moeller]

Hi again,
> > Btw. is Fedora completly driven by 'The Fedora Foundation is a 501(c)3
> > nonprofit organization' ?

Especially

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2006-April/msg00016.html

contains interesting information I did not know about the project, yet.

Thanks for that.

Marcus

desktop relevance

[Rahul Sundaram]

Marcus Moeller wrote:
> Dear Kam,
> > Hi Marcus, I am confused.
> >
> > It reads like your saying Fedora "is" Redhat. I thought it was a seperate distribution much like CentOS is seperate.
>
> As Fedora is a Red Hat product it's part of Red Hat's portfolio. Maybe
> not the business one but the general.

Red Hat does not consider Fedora as a Red Hat product. It is a sponsored
community project that Red Hat participates in.  That is one of the
primary differences between the original Red Hat Linux and Fedora.

You don't see Fedora in

http://www.redhat.com/products/

You can see it here instead

http://www.redhat.com/developers/

Rahul