A big +1 for the parrot! Great work!
Casey
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (Thomas Canniot)
2. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (Dimitris Glezos)
3. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (Matthew Miller)
4. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (M?ir?n Duffy)
5. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (Alex Maier)
6. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (M?ir?n Duffy)
7. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (Alex Maier)
8. Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara (M?ir?n Duffy)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:32:15 +0200
From: Thomas Canniot <thomas.canniot(a)fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: Mascot - Blue Arrara
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Le Sat, 7 Apr 2007 21:37:47 +0200,
"nihed mbarek" <nihedmm(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
> yes, like my friends i think that is a good job
> +1 for parrot
>
> 2007/4/7, Nayyar Ahmad <nayyares(a)gmail.com>:
> >
> > +1 for parrot. Great work
> >
> > On 4/7/07, Juan Rodriguez <nushio(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 to the parrot.
> > > It seems a lot more 'friendly' than an alien, and its less used
> > > than a Polar Bear or a Dolphin.
> > >
Indeed the Parrot is a great mascot for the moment, maybe because it as
got more love from our designers. But is nobody chocked by the meaning
it conveys ?
>From my point of you, the parrot is a very polished mascot for the
moment, but the fact it is seen as a dumb animal repeating what he ears
without understanding it makes be much more doubtful.
Thomas
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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 12:52:38 +0100
From: Dimitris Glezos <dimitris(a)glezos.com>
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O/H Thomas Canniot ÎγÏαÏε:
> Indeed the Parrot is a great mascot for the moment, maybe because it as
> got more love from our designers. But is nobody chocked by the meaning
> it conveys ?
>
>>From my point of you, the parrot is a very polished mascot for the
> moment, but the fact it is seen as a dumb animal repeating what he ears
> without understanding it makes be much more doubtful.
If lots of people, once they looked at the logo, *have* thought "ha, we repeat
what other people say", then we should reconsider it. To be honest, I haven't
thought about it until it was mentioned on the mailing list. Probably because
not all parrots talk and even then they only repeat words but don't mimic (eg.
actions).
I'm sure all of us are open to any other ideas of animals with well-balanced
images (the penguin is one such example, which obviously, can't be used).
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:10:44 -0400
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)mattdm.org>
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On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:32:15AM +0200, Thomas Canniot wrote:
> From my point of you, the parrot is a very polished mascot for the
> moment, but the fact it is seen as a dumb animal repeating what he ears
> without understanding it makes be much more doubtful.
Yeah, that's sure my first thought too.
Actually, it's my second thought. My first thought is: we need a mascot?
What are we, a breakfast cereal?
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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:51:28 -0400
From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com>
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Matthew Miller wrote:
> Actually, it's my second thought. My first thought is: we need a mascot?
> What are we, a breakfast cereal?
It can't hurt to see what folks who think its a good idea come up with.
~m
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:58:05 -0400
From: "Alex Maier" <lxmaier(a)gmail.com>
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Well, unless we are seriously considering marketing Fedora to
kindergarden demographic, I doubt that we need a mascot. But hey, who
am I to doubt the wisdom of the majority vote?
A stray thought here: why not spend some time brainstorming some cool
goodies to produce, instead of the old tired t-shirts and caps?
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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:01:33 -0400
From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com>
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Alex Maier wrote:
> Well, unless we are seriously considering marketing Fedora to
> kindergarden demographic, I doubt that we need a mascot. But hey, who
> am I to doubt the wisdom of the majority vote?
Linux has tux the penguin
BSD has chuck the demon guy
Are Linux and BSD catered towards kindergarteners?
Has Tux not been successful?
~m
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:05:25 -0400
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On 4/9/07, MáirÃn Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Alex Maier wrote:
> > Well, unless we are seriously considering marketing Fedora to
> > kindergarden demographic, I doubt that we need a mascot. But hey, who
> > am I to doubt the wisdom of the majority vote?
>
> Linux has tux the penguin
> BSD has chuck the demon guy
Yes as logos, and we have one too, just not one that is easily made in
form of a cuddly stuffed doll.
> Are Linux and BSD catered towards kindergarteners?
I am simply saying that I do not see any reason to add a cuddly mascot
to our existing brand palette.
> Has Tux not been successful?
Very, and this discussion is proof.
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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:14:00 -0400
From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com>
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Alex Maier wrote:
> On 4/9/07, MáirÃn Duffy <duffy(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> Alex Maier wrote:
>> > Well, unless we are seriously considering marketing Fedora to
>> > kindergarden demographic, I doubt that we need a mascot. But hey, who
>> > am I to doubt the wisdom of the majority vote?
>>
>> Linux has tux the penguin
>> BSD has chuck the demon guy
>
> Yes as logos, and we have one too, just not one that is easily made in
> form of a cuddly stuffed doll.
And herein lies the problem. The licensing/etc issues around the logo
have made it such that it can be difficult for community members to
actually use it (eg Fedora art team) or even interpretations of it.
For the community to create something that they made and own would be
nice, I think. And it's nice to have something cuddly to give out at
conference booths. Maybe I'm silly tho.
~m
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