On Friday 26 May 2006 17:06, Patrick W. Barnes wrote:
I have to be honest, I'm not impressed with the new header
don't fit in with the wiki's theme, they are completely irrelevant, and
they waste a lot of space. On lower resolutions, a visitor might have to
scroll most of a page to get to any useful content.
We need artwork that is consistent, lightweight, and can be worked
current themes. If we really want context-sensitive artwork, we should try
to work out a way to include that artwork as part of the wiki header, where
it could fill some of the already-wasted space instead of wasting even
more. Another consideration is in our ability to produce matching pieces,
such as when a new project is formed. Having to ask a particular person to
create a new piece using his proprietary software is only going to cause
problems in the future.
One day before the new logo guidelines came, I created a new compatible logo
to put in our Wiki, to overwrite the current old one. This new "temporary"
logo uses the new Fedora logo instead of the generic one currently in Wiki.
They complained that the Logo isn't following the guidelines, but didn't say
what guideline it wasn't following. Looking at the guidelines I found out
that I was not following the "Clear Space" rule. Ok, I gave up, IMO there was
no good way to create a new logo for Wiki and follow this guideline.
Looking today at the proprietary image format about a new Wiki design, I
realized that the design itself isn't following the "clear space" guideline
So I suggested (and I'm bringing this discussion here) to extend the Logo
Guidelines to create Sub-Projects Logos, like for Fedora Extras, Fedora
Documentation, Fedora (Brazil), Fedora (France), and so on. The current
guidelines does not allow us to do this in a pretty way because of the "clear
space" rule. What do you think?
I'm not saying that these pieces don't look nice, they just
Talking with other members of the Fedora Artwork team, I've found that I'm
not alone in these opinions. I think that this artwork needs more review
before it is implemented throughout the wiki. Also, before we go into too
much effort for this, is there a reason we need artistic headers that are
unique for each project? While some of the project pages lack style, many
feature fancy tables and a banner formed from the new logo, and I think
those work nicely.
These WikiElements are pretty but I agree with Patrick, they're too big and
not suitable (just my opinion).
Matt did a great job on the new logo, and these new pieces look nice,
we should involve the community in reviewing this new artwork and should
give the Artwork team a chance to do better before we start widely
publishing this artwork with only a handful of reviews. It is haphazard to
immediately publish such pieces without giving the Artwork and Website
teams a chance to provide feedback.
Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
"Talk is cheap. Show me the code." - Linus Torvalds