Will people be grumpy if I include Mac OS X instructions?

[Joe Brockmeier]

Hey all,

Question - I'm wondering if folks are likely to be grumpy en masse if I include
instructions targeted to Mac OS X users for a post on Fedora Magazine?

Context:  We're producing two kinds of Vagrant boxes for Fedora 22 Atomic -
KVM/libvirt and VirtualBox. The VirtualBox images are most likely to be consumed by
Vagrant users on Mac OS X and Windows. That's a Good Thing(TM) if we have devs on Mac
OS X/Windows spinning up Fedora for their Docker work/testing.

But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac instructions for Fedora
Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive. 

Best, 

jzb
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[Stephen John Smoogen]

You are going to get pushback but I think that since pretty much all the
people I am helping on weekends with Vagrant are MacOSX users.. that it
needs to be done.

On 16 March 2015 at 13:22, Joe Brockmeier <jzb(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hey all,
>
>  Question - I'm wondering if folks are likely to be grumpy en masse if I
>  include instructions targeted to Mac OS X users for a post on Fedora
>  Magazine?
>
>  Context:  We're producing two kinds of Vagrant boxes for Fedora 22 Atomic
>  - KVM/libvirt and VirtualBox. The VirtualBox images are most likely to be
>  consumed by Vagrant users on Mac OS X and Windows. That's a Good Thing(TM)
>  if we have devs on Mac OS X/Windows spinning up Fedora for their Docker
>  work/testing.
>
>  But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac instructions
>  for Fedora Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive.
>
>  Best,
>
>  jzb
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[Gabriele Trombini]

>  Il giorno 16/mar/2015, alle ore 20:22, Joe Brockmeier
> <jzb(a)redhat.com&gt; ha scritto:
>  [cut]
>  But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac instructions for Fedora
> Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive. 
IMO there's no problem. 
As ambassador I would love when I can say we don't boycott others s.o. and rather give
instructions with howto for everyone.
It's also a good way to promote Fedora.

Gabri

[Ryan Lerch]

On 03/16/2015 03:22 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  Hey all,
>
>  Question - I'm wondering if folks are likely to be grumpy en masse if I include
> instructions targeted to Mac OS X users for a post on Fedora Magazine?
>
>  Context:  We're producing two kinds of Vagrant boxes for Fedora 22 Atomic -
> KVM/libvirt and VirtualBox. The VirtualBox images are most likely to be consumed by
> Vagrant users on Mac OS X and Windows. That's a Good Thing(TM) if we have devs on Mac
> OS X/Windows spinning up Fedora for their Docker work/testing.
>
>  But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac instructions for Fedora
> Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive.
>
>  Best,
>
>  jzb 
I think it is well within the scope of the magazine to include the 
instructions in this context. It would be slightly different if writing 
up instructions to, say describe how to install inkscape on OSX in the 
magazine.

To me, the proposed instructions are similar to describing how to copy 
the Fedora ISO to a USB on Windows or OSX -- which would be entirely ok 
on the magazine too, IMHO.

--ryanlerch

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[Jaroslav Reznik]

----- Original Message -----
>  On 03/16/2015 03:22 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  > Hey all,
>  >
>  > Question - I'm wondering if folks are likely to be grumpy en masse if I
>  > include instructions targeted to Mac OS X users for a post on Fedora
>  > Magazine?
>  >
>  > Context:  We're producing two kinds of Vagrant boxes for Fedora 22 Atomic -
>  > KVM/libvirt and VirtualBox. The VirtualBox images are most likely to be
>  > consumed by Vagrant users on Mac OS X and Windows. That's a Good Thing(TM)
>  > if we have devs on Mac OS X/Windows spinning up Fedora for their Docker
>  > work/testing.
>  >
>  > But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac instructions
>  > for Fedora Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive.
>  >
>  > Best,
>  >
>  > jzb
>  I think it is well within the scope of the magazine to include the
>  instructions in this context. It would be slightly different if writing
>  up instructions to, say describe how to install inkscape on OSX in the
>  magazine.
>  
>  To me, the proposed instructions are similar to describing how to copy
>  the Fedora ISO to a USB on Windows or OSX -- which would be entirely ok
>  on the magazine too, IMHO. 
And actually, this could be a great article in the magazine! Something I
feel folks struggle with. 

Joe, I'd say go ahead. It's a nice way how to spread our technology to
other developers not on Fedora. One thing I'd like to ask is - please,
add some Vagrant for beginners part aka what Vagrant is and how it can
be used.

Jaroslav 

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[Chaoyi Zha]

I think this would work perfectly fine. We are writing OSX instructions on
using Fedora, the end goal still matches what the Fedora magazine is for.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015, 4:22 AM Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > On 03/16/2015 03:22 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  > > Hey all,
>  > >
>  > > Question - I'm wondering if folks are likely to be grumpy en masse if I
>  > > include instructions targeted to Mac OS X users for a post on Fedora
>  > > Magazine?
>  > >
>  > > Context:  We're producing two kinds of Vagrant boxes for Fedora 22
>  Atomic -
>  > > KVM/libvirt and VirtualBox. The VirtualBox images are most likely to be
>  > > consumed by Vagrant users on Mac OS X and Windows. That's a Good
>  Thing(TM)
>  > > if we have devs on Mac OS X/Windows spinning up Fedora for their Docker
>  > > work/testing.
>  > >
>  > > But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac
>  instructions
>  > > for Fedora Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive.
>  > >
>  > > Best,
>  > >
>  > > jzb
>  > I think it is well within the scope of the magazine to include the
>  > instructions in this context. It would be slightly different if writing
>  > up instructions to, say describe how to install inkscape on OSX in the
>  > magazine.
>  >
>  > To me, the proposed instructions are similar to describing how to copy
>  > the Fedora ISO to a USB on Windows or OSX -- which would be entirely ok
>  > on the magazine too, IMHO.
>
>  And actually, this could be a great article in the magazine! Something I
>  feel folks struggle with.
>
>  Joe, I'd say go ahead. It's a nice way how to spread our technology to
>  other developers not on Fedora. One thing I'd like to ask is - please,
>  add some Vagrant for beginners part aka what Vagrant is and how it can
>  be used.
>
>  Jaroslav
>
>  > --ryanlerch
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[Joe Brockmeier]

On 03/17/2015 04:22 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>  Joe, I'd say go ahead. It's a nice way how to spread our
> technology to
>  other developers not on Fedora. One thing I'd like to ask is - please,
>  add some Vagrant for beginners part aka what Vagrant is and how it can
>  be used. 
OK, the consensus seems to be "do it!" so I'll try to get this wrapped
up today. I am adding a "what's Vagrant" section.

If anybody has any tips or tricks for Vagrant with libvirt feel free to
shoot 'em my way.

Best,

jzb
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jzb(a)redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb  | http://dissociatedpress.net/

[Ryan Lerch]

On 03/17/2015 08:16 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  On 03/17/2015 04:22 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > Joe, I'd say go ahead. It's a nice way how to spread our technology to
> > other developers not on Fedora. One thing I'd like to ask is - please,
> > add some Vagrant for beginners part aka what Vagrant is and how it can
> > be used.
>  OK, the consensus seems to be "do it!" so I'll try to get this wrapped
>  up today. I am adding a "what's Vagrant" section.
>
>  If anybody has any tips or tricks for Vagrant with libvirt feel free to
>  shoot 'em my way.
>
>  Best,
>
>  jzb
>
>  
If you are almost done with this one, do you want to schedule it to post 
tomorrow? Paul's notification post should be done and out today.

--ryanlerch

[Joe Brockmeier]

On 03/17/2015 10:27 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> >> Joe, I'd say go ahead. It's a nice way how to spread
> our technology to
> >> other developers not on Fedora. One thing I'd like to ask is - please,
> >> add some Vagrant for beginners part aka what Vagrant is and how it can
> >> be used.
> > OK, the consensus seems to be "do it!" so I'll try to get this wrapped
> > up today. I am adding a "what's Vagrant" section.
> >
> > If anybody has any tips or tricks for Vagrant with libvirt feel free to
> > shoot 'em my way.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> >
> >
>  If you are almost done with this one, do you want to schedule it to post
>  tomorrow? Paul's notification post should be done and out today. 
I was just going to throw it up as soon as I got it done, but I can
schedule for tomorrow...
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Twitter: @jzb  | http://dissociatedpress.net/

[Joe Brockmeier]

On 03/17/2015 10:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  I was just going to throw it up  
I could have maybe phrased that better.

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[Kushal Das]

On 16/03/15, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>  Hey all,
>  
>  Question - I'm wondering if folks are likely to be grumpy en masse if I include
> instructions targeted to Mac OS X users for a post on Fedora Magazine?
>  
>  Context:  We're producing two kinds of Vagrant boxes for Fedora 22 Atomic -
> KVM/libvirt and VirtualBox. The VirtualBox images are most likely to be consumed by
> Vagrant users on Mac OS X and Windows. That's a Good Thing(TM) if we have devs on Mac
> OS X/Windows spinning up Fedora for their Docker work/testing.
>  
>  But it feels slightly weird writing a howto that includes Mac instructions for Fedora
> Magazine. Thoughts? Hope I'm just being over-sensitive. 
>   
I am looking at this as a way to run Fedora on Mac. I say go ahead.


Kushal
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Director @ Python Software Foundation
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