RE: Fedora Project Sign for GITEX Demo Pod

[Thomas Chung]

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:48:28 +0200
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project Sign for GITEX Demo Pod
Am Sonntag, 29. Juli 2007 18:12 schrieb Hisham Abdel-Magid:
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/GitexExampleSign 
I think in this case, you should not mix the fedora logo and design with the
RedHat Logo. You represent Fedora, not Red Hat. This will confuse the
visitors - and someone must approve the use of the RedHat Logo to.
This is how i interpret
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct

CU Joerg


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Fedora Project Sign for GITEX Demo Pod

[John Babich]

On 7/30/07, Thomas Chung <tchung(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
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>  Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:48:28 +0200
>  Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project Sign for GITEX Demo Pod
>  Am Sonntag, 29. Juli 2007 18:12 schrieb Hisham Abdel-Magid:
>  > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/GitexExampleSign
>
>  I think in this case, you should not mix the fedora logo and design with the
>  RedHat Logo. You represent Fedora, not Red Hat. This will confuse the
>  visitors - and someone must approve the use of the RedHat Logo to.
>  This is how i interpret
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct
>  
I believe Joerg is referring to this paragraph:

"You represent Fedora, not Red Hat

This is pretty simple. You represent the Fedora Project, which is
sponsored by Red Hat. You do not represent Red Hat. If someone is
interested in RHEL, please put them in touch with a local Red Hat
sales engineer. If you need help with that, ask JonFautley. Even
though you may believe that Fedora is perfection, you should not
insult any other project or product. "

I agree 100% with this paragraph.

I see two scenarios:

Scenario #1: Fedora Project is at an Open Source Conference (such as OSCON)

This is crystal-clear. The Fedora Project is the Fedora Project. Period.

Scenario #2: Fedora Project is sharing Red Hat exhibition space with
Red Hat at an ICT commercial exhibition  (such as GITEX)

The Fedora Project is clearly sponsored by Red Hat. The Fedora Project
is mostly autonomous, but not 100% disconnected from Red Hat. As
stated on the main page of the wiki:

"The Fedora Project is a collection of projects sponsored by Red Hat,
and developed as a partnership between the open source community and
Red Hat engineers".

In a professional IT setting, such as an ICT exhibition, where the
Fedora Project is sharing expensive exhibition space with Red Hat,
through the generosity of Red Hat, I think it is appropriate to openly
acknowledge Red Hat's sponsorship. In fact, it is a big advantage for
an ICT professional to know that the Fedora Project has the clear
support of the leading commercial Linux company, Red Hat.

At the same time, I plan to clearly identify myself as a Fedoran,
since I am not an employee of Red Hat. (A Fedora shirt would be nice).
To do otherwise would be deceptive and misleading. If someone asks a
Red Hat marketing question (or a technical question for that matter),
I will definitely refer them to the Red Hat people sharing the space
with me.

As for the demo pod poster and literature, I also feel it is
appropriate in this context to include the Red Hat logo to reinforce
the connection between the Fedora Project and Red Hat, which is a
positive association.

Best Regards,

John Babich
Volunteer, Fedora Project

Fedora Project Sign for GITEX Demo Pod

[simon]

Am Montag, 30. Juli 2007 08:44 schrieb John Babich:

>  > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct
>  I agree 100% with this paragraph.
>  I also feel it is
>  appropriate in this context to include the Red Hat logo to reinforce
>  the connection between the Fedora Project and Red Hat, which is a
>  positive association. 
In this combination, a Visitor who not know the Fedora Project, will see two Logos in the
same hierarchy and size - so what is the correct one? And then the Rection is "ah
like OpenSuse" - and this is what we are not ... there are more point hidden in the
wiki not to combine it so don't do it.
If you must have it.
You should send your Proposal to logo(a)fedoraproject.org.
For a short decision ask Max directly - maybe he can approve your Fedora-RedHat
Logo-Combination - i would'nt combine it. 

Cheers Joerg
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