magazine design refresh

[Matthew Miller]

I know Ryan's been working on this on and off. I'd really like to see a
design refresh, especially as traffic is increasing. And I think no one
was really _opposed_ to reducing categories to "For Users", "For
Contributors", and "5tFTW".


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Fedora Project Leader

[Chris Roberts]

I agree :) the amount of traffic we are getting is amazing and I am happy to see this
become a key piece of Fedora. The only thing I would like to see stay besides those
categories is events. With all the different events that get posted especially Flock it
would be nice to be able to go back and see something in that category.

- Chris

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Subject: magazine design refresh

I know Ryan's been working on this on and off. I'd really like to see a
design refresh, especially as traffic is increasing. And I think no one
was really _opposed_ to reducing categories to "For Users", "For
Contributors", and "5tFTW".


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[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Chris Roberts wrote:
>  I agree :) the amount of traffic we are getting is amazing and I am
>  happy to see this become a key piece of Fedora. The only thing I
>  would like to see stay besides those categories is events. With all
>  the different events that get posted especially Flock it would be
>  nice to be able to go back and see something in that category. 

Can we use tags for that?

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[Chris Roberts]

Forgot about those mornings-- sounds good to me to drop them then.

Sent from my iPhone

>  On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Matthew Miller
> <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  
> > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Chris Roberts wrote:
> > I agree :) the amount of traffic we are getting is amazing and I am
> > happy to see this become a key piece of Fedora. The only thing I
> > would like to see stay besides those categories is events. With all
> > the different events that get posted especially Flock it would be
> > nice to be able to go back and see something in that category.
>  
>  
>  Can we use tags for that?
>  
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[Ryan Lerch]

On 02/04/2015 09:36 AM, Chris Roberts wrote:
>  Forgot about those mornings-- sounds good to me to drop them then.
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Chris Roberts wrote:
> >> I agree :) the amount of traffic we are getting is amazing and I am
> >> happy to see this become a key piece of Fedora. The only thing I
> >> would like to see stay besides those categories is events. With all
> >> the different events that get posted especially Flock it would be
> >> nice to be able to go back and see something in that category.
> >
> > Can we use tags for that?
> >
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Still not sold on those categories, tbh.

Maybe expand it a bit to something like this:

* News
* Community News
* Applications
* Five Things
* Tips & Tricks

Want to try to avoid specifying the audience as a category, rather 
catergorize the posts on content than audience...

sorry if that doesnt make sense :(

--ryanlerch

PS. working on the theme again this week...

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 10:37:57AM -0500, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>  Still not sold on those categories, tbh.
>  Maybe expand it a bit to something like this:
>  * News
>  * Community News
>  * Applications
>  * Five Things
>  * Tips & Tricks
>  Want to try to avoid specifying the audience as a category, rather
>  catergorize the posts on content than audience...
>  sorry if that doesnt make sense :( 
It makes sense just fine. I'm just not convinced. :)

Your categories seem good too, but basically the audience question is
the only reason I can think to really have categories _at all_ rather
than just tags. We've had several discussions about not wanting to
overwhelm users with contributor-focused content, but we _do_ have a
lot of that too, and no where good to put it, and I don't want to
start a _second_ blog....

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Fedora Project Leader

[Bryan Sutherland]

How about denoting the audience in the tags? I agree that splitting the
content with categories could end up with both communities missing out on
valid and useful articles.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 10:37:57AM -0500, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>  > Still not sold on those categories, tbh.
>  > Maybe expand it a bit to something like this:
>  > * News
>  > * Community News
>  > * Applications
>  > * Five Things
>  > * Tips & Tricks
>  > Want to try to avoid specifying the audience as a category, rather
>  > catergorize the posts on content than audience...
>  > sorry if that doesnt make sense :(
>
>  It makes sense just fine. I'm just not convinced. :)
>
>  Your categories seem good too, but basically the audience question is
>  the only reason I can think to really have categories _at all_ rather
>  than just tags. We've had several discussions about not wanting to
>  overwhelm users with contributor-focused content, but we _do_ have a
>  lot of that too, and no where good to put it, and I don't want to
>  start a _second_ blog....
>
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[Ryan Lerch]

On 02/04/2015 10:48 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 10:37:57AM -0500, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> > Still not sold on those categories, tbh.
> > Maybe expand it a bit to something like this:
> > * News
> > * Community News
> > * Applications
> > * Five Things
> > * Tips & Tricks
> > Want to try to avoid specifying the audience as a category, rather
> > catergorize the posts on content than audience...
> > sorry if that doesnt make sense :(
>  It makes sense just fine. I'm just not convinced. :)
>
>  Your categories seem good too, but basically the audience question is
>  the only reason I can think to really have categories _at all_ rather
>  than just tags. We've had several discussions about not wanting to
>  overwhelm users with contributor-focused content, but we _do_ have a
>  lot of that too, and no where good to put it, and I don't want to
>  start a _second_ blog.... 
Yeah, I also think we could be a little smarter with the contributor 
focussed content too. Sure, f22 is branched -- that is good info for 
contributors. But we can also give a little background on what this 
actaully means, for the users that are not yet contributors :)

Dunno, maybe we just try not having categories -- only tags. A lot of 
our readers are coming in to specific posts anyway at the moment, so 
having categories wont really change much, TBH.

--ryanlerch
>

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 01:15:28PM -0500, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>  Dunno, maybe we just try not having categories -- only tags. A lot
>  of our readers are coming in to specific posts anyway at the moment,
>  so having categories wont really change much, TBH. 
Okay, I can live with that. But let's get your new pretty design up. :)

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Matthew Miller
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Fedora Project Leader