Idea and Possible Event in Aveiro, Portugal

[Nelson Marques]

 Hi,

 Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
manufacturers, service enablers etc).
 This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.

 Congress Center:

http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg



 After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
for the two days.

 My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
(Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).

 http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
 http://www.ipam.pt

  IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
  Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
community.

  Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
parking, etc.

  I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
Slowlaris).

  Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
amongst other things.

  There could be no better background for this.


  My thing:

  # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
  # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
  # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
     - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
     - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
Medinas is from Aveiro).
     - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
     - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?

  GOALS:
  # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
  # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
  # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
  # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
of interest to Red Hat).


  Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
open source enablers, etc).

  I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.

  Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
(installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
(SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
(anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).

   I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.

   

   If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:

   - March (too close and important city events)
   - April/May (full of students events)
   - June (exams)
   - July (no great events on schedule)


   I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.

   Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
old fashion Linux Install Fest.

   Waiting for feedback from the list.

    Nelson.

[Gerold]

+1

Nelson, your plans are awesome and I personaly like to see it happen.
You will get my highest support to make it happen. Maybe I find also a
possibility to attend if it really happen in May or June and during a
weekend ..

Let's talk in private for more details. Other question; have you also
asked in the Ambassadors List to get support?

regards

Gerold

Am Samstag, den 27.02.2010, 16:44 +0000 schrieb Nelson Marques: 
>  Hi,
>  
>   Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
>  in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
>  online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
>  event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
>  retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
>  5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
>  manufacturers, service enablers etc).
>   This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
>  public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
>  
>   Congress Center:
>  
>
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
>  http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
>  http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
>  
>  
>  
>   After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
>  time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
>  don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
>  free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
>  for the two days.
>  
>   My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
>  instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
>  (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
>  
>   http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
>   http://www.ipam.pt
>  
>    IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
>  Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
>  Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
>    Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
>  community.
>  
>    Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
>  presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
>  parking, etc.
>  
>    I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
>  Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
>  Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
>  Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
>  Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
>  Slowlaris).
>  
>    Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
>  and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
>  platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
>  continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
>  pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
>  establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
>  amongst other things.
>  
>    There could be no better background for this.
>  
>  
>    My thing:
>  
>    # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
>    # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
>    # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
>       - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
>       - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
>  Medinas is from Aveiro).
>       - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
>       - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
>  
>    GOALS:
>    # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
>    # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
>  get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
>    # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
>    # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
>  of interest to Red Hat).
>  
>  
>    Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
>  relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
>  involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
>  as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
>  eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
>  LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
>  open source enablers, etc).
>  
>    I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
>  Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
>  
>    Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
>  supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
>  company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
>  (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
>  (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
>  pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
>  we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
>  support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
>  resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
>  (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
>  
>     I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
>  is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
>  
>     
>  
>     If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
>  
>     - March (too close and important city events)
>     - April/May (full of students events)
>     - June (exams)
>     - July (no great events on schedule)
>  
>  
>     I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
>  myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
>  try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
>  
>     Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
>  old fashion Linux Install Fest.
>  
>     Waiting for feedback from the list.
>  
>      Nelson.  
>  
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[Nelson Marques]

 Hi Gerold,

 It's mainly an idea for now, and I haven't contacted no one yet.
 May could be fun, because it's the students festivities (and 25% of
Aveiro resident population is students). So, we also have a nice
playground to have some fun after the event :)

 As I said previously, I haven't contacted the ambassadors, because it's
just a sketch of an idea, needs to get more substract (hopefully from
this thread).
 I would recon that we could eventually develop a bit more this idea on
the list and then present it to the Ambassadors once it gets more
"stable".

 Here's a list of people that could get involved:

 - Aveiro City Hall (through the cultural and educational department)
 - PT Inovação S.A. (as a open source enabler in the market, they used a
lot of Red Hat when I was there (1999/2001), not sure what they use now,
but I can select the people that are pro Red Hat (my former boss would
be great, he was the one who teached me a lot about Red Hat back then,
and he also gives conferences sometimes, so he has a lot background and
experience).
 - Inforlandia Lda > They were one of the first, if not the first
hardware manufacturer/OEM brander to ship with pre-installed GNU/Linux.
They are a good company, and they count with local engineering people
from nvidia and Clevo.
 - IPAM > My University (bellongs to the Ensigest Group, present in
Europe and Americas).
 - University of Aveiro > One of the highest technological poles in the
country. They form a lot of good people and some of their teachers are
deeply involved in Free Software promotion (like Dr. Ruben Mendes from
ANSOL, which was also a contributer/maintainer for Debian in the past,
if I'm not wrong).
 - Fedora Community > of course.
 - Red Hat ?
 - I would like to contact probably one or two ISP's and mobile
operators (reason: e-student program from the governament provides
mobile networking aswell for students. Supported? Alert to open
source?).

 Keep feeding the thread and comenting everything, so we can have a
clear inview of what we can do and what we cant do before we start
rallying for manpower and things we need.

 Feel free to contact me in private: 07721(a)ipam.pt,
nmarques(a)fedoraproject.org. 

 My German is basic ;) (almost 15 years without practicing on it)
English would be preferred.


 Thanks for the support,

 Nelson

On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 22:11 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote:
>  +1
>  
>  Nelson, your plans are awesome and I personaly like to see it happen.
>  You will get my highest support to make it happen. Maybe I find also a
>  possibility to attend if it really happen in May or June and during a
>  weekend ..
>  
>  Let's talk in private for more details. Other question; have you also
>  asked in the Ambassadors List to get support?
>  
>  regards
>  
>  Gerold
>  
>  Am Samstag, den 27.02.2010, 16:44 +0000 schrieb Nelson Marques: 
>  > Hi,
>  > 
>  >  Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
>  > in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
>  > online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
>  > event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
>  > retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
>  > 5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
>  > manufacturers, service enablers etc).
>  >  This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
>  > public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
>  > 
>  >  Congress Center:
>  > 
>  >
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
>  > http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
>  > http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  >  After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
>  > time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
>  > don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
>  > free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
>  > for the two days.
>  > 
>  >  My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
>  > instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
>  > (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
>  > 
>  >  http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
>  >  http://www.ipam.pt
>  > 
>  >   IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
>  > Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
>  > Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
>  >   Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
>  > community.
>  > 
>  >   Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
>  > presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
>  > parking, etc.
>  > 
>  >   I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
>  > Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
>  > Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
>  > Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
>  > Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
>  > Slowlaris).
>  > 
>  >   Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
>  > and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
>  > platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
>  > continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
>  > pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
>  > establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
>  > amongst other things.
>  > 
>  >   There could be no better background for this.
>  > 
>  > 
>  >   My thing:
>  > 
>  >   # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
>  >   # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
>  >   # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
>  >      - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
>  >      - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
>  > Medinas is from Aveiro).
>  >      - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
>  >      - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
>  > 
>  >   GOALS:
>  >   # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
>  >   # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
>  > get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
>  >   # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
>  >   # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
>  > of interest to Red Hat).
>  > 
>  > 
>  >   Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
>  > relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
>  > involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
>  > as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
>  > eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
>  > LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
>  > open source enablers, etc).
>  > 
>  >   I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
>  > Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
>  > 
>  >   Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
>  > supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
>  > company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
>  > (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
>  > (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
>  > pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
>  > we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
>  > support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
>  > resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
>  > (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
>  > 
>  >    I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
>  > is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
>  > 
>  >    
>  > 
>  >    If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
>  > 
>  >    - March (too close and important city events)
>  >    - April/May (full of students events)
>  >    - June (exams)
>  >    - July (no great events on schedule)
>  > 
>  > 
>  >    I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
>  > myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
>  > try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
>  > 
>  >    Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
>  > old fashion Linux Install Fest.
>  > 
>  >    Waiting for feedback from the list.
>  > 
>  >     Nelson.  
>  > 
>  > -- 
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[threethirty]

On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 21:32 +0000, Nelson Marques wrote:
>  Hi Gerold, 
>  
>   It's mainly an idea for now, and I haven't contacted no one yet.
>   May could be fun, because it's the students festivities (and 25% of
>  Aveiro resident population is students). So, we also have a nice
>  playground to have some fun after the event :)
>  
>   As I said previously, I haven't contacted the ambassadors, because it's
>  just a sketch of an idea, needs to get more substract (hopefully from
>  this thread).
>   I would recon that we could eventually develop a bit more this idea on
>  the list and then present it to the Ambassadors once it gets more
>  "stable".
>  
>   Here's a list of people that could get involved:
>  
>   - Aveiro City Hall (through the cultural and educational department)
>   - PT Inovação S.A. (as a open source enabler in the market, they used a
>  lot of Red Hat when I was there (1999/2001), not sure what they use now,
>  but I can select the people that are pro Red Hat (my former boss would
>  be great, he was the one who teached me a lot about Red Hat back then,
>  and he also gives conferences sometimes, so he has a lot background and
>  experience).
>   - Inforlandia Lda > They were one of the first, if not the first
>  hardware manufacturer/OEM brander to ship with pre-installed GNU/Linux.
>  They are a good company, and they count with local engineering people
>  from nvidia and Clevo.
>   - IPAM > My University (bellongs to the Ensigest Group, present in
>  Europe and Americas).
>   - University of Aveiro > One of the highest technological poles in the
>  country. They form a lot of good people and some of their teachers are
>  deeply involved in Free Software promotion (like Dr. Ruben Mendes from
>  ANSOL, which was also a contributer/maintainer for Debian in the past,
>  if I'm not wrong).
>   - Fedora Community > of course.
>   - Red Hat ?
>   - I would like to contact probably one or two ISP's and mobile
>  operators (reason: e-student program from the governament provides
>  mobile networking aswell for students. Supported? Alert to open
>  source?).
>  
>   Keep feeding the thread and comenting everything, so we can have a
>  clear inview of what we can do and what we cant do before we start
>  rallying for manpower and things we need.
>  
>   Feel free to contact me in private: 07721(a)ipam.pt,
>  nmarques(a)fedoraproject.org. 
>  
>   My German is basic ;) (almost 15 years without practicing on it)
>  English would be preferred.
>  
>  
>   Thanks for the support,
>  
>   Nelson
>  
>  On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 22:11 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote:
>  > +1
>  > 
>  > Nelson, your plans are awesome and I personaly like to see it happen.
>  > You will get my highest support to make it happen. Maybe I find also a
>  > possibility to attend if it really happen in May or June and during a
>  > weekend ..
>  > 
>  > Let's talk in private for more details. Other question; have you also
>  > asked in the Ambassadors List to get support?
>  > 
>  > regards
>  > 
>  > Gerold
>  > 
>  > Am Samstag, den 27.02.2010, 16:44 +0000 schrieb Nelson Marques: 
>  > > Hi,
>  > > 
>  > >  Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
>  > > in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
>  > > online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
>  > > event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
>  > > retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
>  > > 5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
>  > > manufacturers, service enablers etc).
>  > >  This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
>  > > public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
>  > > 
>  > >  Congress Center:
>  > > 
>  > >
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
>  > > http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
>  > > http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > >  After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
>  > > time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
>  > > don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
>  > > free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
>  > > for the two days.
>  > > 
>  > >  My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
>  > > instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
>  > > (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
>  > > 
>  > >  http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
>  > >  http://www.ipam.pt
>  > > 
>  > >   IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
>  > > Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
>  > > Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
>  > >   Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
>  > > community.
>  > > 
>  > >   Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
>  > > presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
>  > > parking, etc.
>  > > 
>  > >   I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
>  > > Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
>  > > Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
>  > > Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
>  > > Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
>  > > Slowlaris).
>  > > 
>  > >   Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
>  > > and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
>  > > platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
>  > > continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
>  > > pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
>  > > establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
>  > > amongst other things.
>  > > 
>  > >   There could be no better background for this.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > >   My thing:
>  > > 
>  > >   # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
>  > >   # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
>  > >   # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
>  > >      - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
>  > >      - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
>  > > Medinas is from Aveiro).
>  > >      - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
>  > >      - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
>  > > 
>  > >   GOALS:
>  > >   # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
>  > >   # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
>  > > get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
>  > >   # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
>  > >   # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
>  > > of interest to Red Hat).
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > >   Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
>  > > relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
>  > > involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
>  > > as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
>  > > eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
>  > > LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
>  > > open source enablers, etc).
>  > > 
>  > >   I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
>  > > Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
>  > > 
>  > >   Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
>  > > supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
>  > > company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
>  > > (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
>  > > (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
>  > > pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
>  > > we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
>  > > support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
>  > > resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
>  > > (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
>  > > 
>  > >    I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
>  > > is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
>  > > 
>  > >    
>  > > 
>  > >    If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
>  > > 
>  > >    - March (too close and important city events)
>  > >    - April/May (full of students events)
>  > >    - June (exams)
>  > >    - July (no great events on schedule)
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > >    I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
>  > > myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
>  > > try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
>  > > 
>  > >    Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
>  > > old fashion Linux Install Fest.
>  > > 
>  > >    Waiting for feedback from the list.
>  > > 
>  > >     Nelson.  
>  > > 
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Nelson,

Actually the Ambassador List would be the place to flush this out. We
actually have a budget for doing things like this and there may be some
Ambassadors near you that could help out.


-- 
Justin "threethirty" O'Brien
Fedora Ambassador & Marketing Team Member
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[Robyn Bergeron]

If you are looking to do something heavily Fedora-centric, which is
what it sounds like, you should read the FUDCon wiki page
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fudcon), and the FUDCon organizational
process page (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_organization_process),
and probably also the bid process page
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_bid_process).

The 2010 FUDCon for EMEA is scheduled for Sept-Nov. 2010; if you are
interested in doing something in that timeframe, I would recommend
joining the FUDCon planning list
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_bid_process), catching up with
their recent archives (I believe some people may already be in the
process of proposing event locations for the EMEA FUDCon), and
bouncing your ideas off of that list.

Aside from that, particularly if you're considering something not
entirely Fedora-centric,  I'd also get in touch with the EMEA
ambassadors for feedback.  You should probably also consider what
other major FOSS conferences are going on in Europe during this time
of year; I know that June is LinuxTAG in Germany, and I'm sure there
are other events throughout the summer (I don't know what they are
offhand, though). These are great opportunities to work with the
Ambassadors in the region to do Fedora-related activities, both
before/after and during the conference, without having to reinvent the
wheel or force potential participants to have to choose where they'd
like to invest their travel funds.

-robyn

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Nelson Marques <07721(a)ipam.pt&gt; wrote:
>   Hi Gerold,
>
>   It's mainly an idea for now, and I haven't contacted no one yet.
>   May could be fun, because it's the students festivities (and 25% of
>  Aveiro resident population is students). So, we also have a nice
>  playground to have some fun after the event :)
>
>   As I said previously, I haven't contacted the ambassadors, because it's
>  just a sketch of an idea, needs to get more substract (hopefully from
>  this thread).
>   I would recon that we could eventually develop a bit more this idea on
>  the list and then present it to the Ambassadors once it gets more
>  "stable".
>
>   Here's a list of people that could get involved:
>
>   - Aveiro City Hall (through the cultural and educational department)
>   - PT Inovação S.A. (as a open source enabler in the market, they used a
>  lot of Red Hat when I was there (1999/2001), not sure what they use now,
>  but I can select the people that are pro Red Hat (my former boss would
>  be great, he was the one who teached me a lot about Red Hat back then,
>  and he also gives conferences sometimes, so he has a lot background and
>  experience).
>   - Inforlandia Lda > They were one of the first, if not the first
>  hardware manufacturer/OEM brander to ship with pre-installed GNU/Linux.
>  They are a good company, and they count with local engineering people
>  from nvidia and Clevo.
>   - IPAM > My University (bellongs to the Ensigest Group, present in
>  Europe and Americas).
>   - University of Aveiro > One of the highest technological poles in the
>  country. They form a lot of good people and some of their teachers are
>  deeply involved in Free Software promotion (like Dr. Ruben Mendes from
>  ANSOL, which was also a contributer/maintainer for Debian in the past,
>  if I'm not wrong).
>   - Fedora Community > of course.
>   - Red Hat ?
>   - I would like to contact probably one or two ISP's and mobile
>  operators (reason: e-student program from the governament provides
>  mobile networking aswell for students. Supported? Alert to open
>  source?).
>
>   Keep feeding the thread and comenting everything, so we can have a
>  clear inview of what we can do and what we cant do before we start
>  rallying for manpower and things we need.
>
>   Feel free to contact me in private: 07721(a)ipam.pt,
>  nmarques(a)fedoraproject.org.
>
>   My German is basic ;) (almost 15 years without practicing on it)
>  English would be preferred.
>
>
>   Thanks for the support,
>
>   Nelson
>
>  On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 22:11 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > Nelson, your plans are awesome and I personaly like to see it happen.
> > You will get my highest support to make it happen. Maybe I find also a
> > possibility to attend if it really happen in May or June and during a
> > weekend ..
> >
> > Let's talk in private for more details. Other question; have you also
> > asked in the Ambassadors List to get support?
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Gerold
> >
> > Am Samstag, den 27.02.2010, 16:44 +0000 schrieb Nelson Marques:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >  Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
> > > in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
> > > online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
> > > event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
> > > retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
> > > 5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
> > > manufacturers, service enablers etc).
> > >  This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
> > > public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
> > >
> > >  Congress Center:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
> > > http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
> > > http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
> > > time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
> > > don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
> > > free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
> > > for the two days.
> > >
> > >  My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
> > > instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
> > > (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
> > >
> > >  http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
> > >  http://www.ipam.pt
> > >
> > >   IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
> > > Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
> > > Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
> > >   Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
> > > community.
> > >
> > >   Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
> > > presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
> > > parking, etc.
> > >
> > >   I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
> > > Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
> > > Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
> > > Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
> > > Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
> > > Slowlaris).
> > >
> > >   Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
> > > and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
> > > platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
> > > continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
> > > pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
> > > establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
> > > amongst other things.
> > >
> > >   There could be no better background for this.
> > >
> > >
> > >   My thing:
> > >
> > >   # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
> > >   # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
> > >   # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
> > >      - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
> > >      - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
> > > Medinas is from Aveiro).
> > >      - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
> > >      - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
> > >
> > >   GOALS:
> > >   # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
> > >   # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
> > > get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
> > >   # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
> > >   # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
> > > of interest to Red Hat).
> > >
> > >
> > >   Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
> > > relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
> > > involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
> > > as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
> > > eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
> > > LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
> > > open source enablers, etc).
> > >
> > >   I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
> > > Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
> > >
> > >   Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
> > > supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
> > > company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
> > > (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
> > > (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
> > > pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
> > > we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
> > > support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
> > > resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
> > > (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
> > >
> > >    I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
> > > is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
> > >
> > >    - March (too close and important city events)
> > >    - April/May (full of students events)
> > >    - June (exams)
> > >    - July (no great events on schedule)
> > >
> > >
> > >    I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
> > > myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
> > > try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
> > >
> > >    Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
> > > old fashion Linux Install Fest.
> > >
> > >    Waiting for feedback from the list.
> > >
> > >     Nelson.
> > >
> > > --
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> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> >
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[Nelson Marques]

 Robyn,

 I'm going to cease this thread and take it to the ambassadors list. But
that's not what I have in mind, not even close.
 
 I'm aiming for something different, recruit more people to Fedora as
contributors. The local LUG, GLUA, represents groups of users from
several distros, openSuSE, Fedora, Archlinux, Debian, Ubuntu, etc.
 
 The people attending this event will be splitted into two groups. The
people who want to get into the Linux world and want to learn, through
the LIP (Linux Install Party), supported by the local community (easy
free manpower). And a second group, the local community which is a group
of students and over 2000 IT Professionals, for this group a small event
on the background, a couple of conferences with some some community
icons. 

 All this people are aware of Linux and use it daily. What we would win
mainly for this by having a small representation is mainly contributors
and strengthen our local presence.

 This event is not aiming to an existing Fedora Community, I would see
it as a field test on how to get closer to possible new contributors.
This is why it needs somehow to be connected to Fedora. So we can
sensibilize people to our cause.

 I'm taking it to the ambassadors. Anyway, I'm not expecting any
founding for the event itself, as I know it's reliable to organize it
using free resources such as the local Linux community and my school.
 If I can make the local industry stop for 2 days and look at us, it's a
great achievement. I'm not planning to freeze the world and make it turn
to us in those 2 days.

 I'm taking this to the ambassadors, but I would still like to report
regularly to this list, as my marketing goal on this is to expand the
list of active contributors and this is actually within the scope of
marketing from the Promotion and Place point of view.

 nelson.
 


On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 14:52 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
>  If you are looking to do something heavily Fedora-centric, which is
>  what it sounds like, you should read the FUDCon wiki page
>  (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fudcon), and the FUDCon organizational
>  process page (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_organization_process),
>  and probably also the bid process page
>  (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_bid_process).
>  
>  The 2010 FUDCon for EMEA is scheduled for Sept-Nov. 2010; if you are
>  interested in doing something in that timeframe, I would recommend
>  joining the FUDCon planning list
>  (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_bid_process), catching up with
>  their recent archives (I believe some people may already be in the
>  process of proposing event locations for the EMEA FUDCon), and
>  bouncing your ideas off of that list.
>  
>  Aside from that, particularly if you're considering something not
>  entirely Fedora-centric,  I'd also get in touch with the EMEA
>  ambassadors for feedback.  You should probably also consider what
>  other major FOSS conferences are going on in Europe during this time
>  of year; I know that June is LinuxTAG in Germany, and I'm sure there
>  are other events throughout the summer (I don't know what they are
>  offhand, though). These are great opportunities to work with the
>  Ambassadors in the region to do Fedora-related activities, both
>  before/after and during the conference, without having to reinvent the
>  wheel or force potential participants to have to choose where they'd
>  like to invest their travel funds.
>  
>  -robyn
>  
>  On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Nelson Marques <07721(a)ipam.pt&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  >  Hi Gerold,
>  >
>  >  It's mainly an idea for now, and I haven't contacted no one yet.
>  >  May could be fun, because it's the students festivities (and 25% of
>  > Aveiro resident population is students). So, we also have a nice
>  > playground to have some fun after the event :)
>  >
>  >  As I said previously, I haven't contacted the ambassadors, because it's
>  > just a sketch of an idea, needs to get more substract (hopefully from
>  > this thread).
>  >  I would recon that we could eventually develop a bit more this idea on
>  > the list and then present it to the Ambassadors once it gets more
>  > "stable".
>  >
>  >  Here's a list of people that could get involved:
>  >
>  >  - Aveiro City Hall (through the cultural and educational department)
>  >  - PT Inovação S.A. (as a open source enabler in the market, they used a
>  > lot of Red Hat when I was there (1999/2001), not sure what they use now,
>  > but I can select the people that are pro Red Hat (my former boss would
>  > be great, he was the one who teached me a lot about Red Hat back then,
>  > and he also gives conferences sometimes, so he has a lot background and
>  > experience).
>  >  - Inforlandia Lda > They were one of the first, if not the first
>  > hardware manufacturer/OEM brander to ship with pre-installed GNU/Linux.
>  > They are a good company, and they count with local engineering people
>  > from nvidia and Clevo.
>  >  - IPAM > My University (bellongs to the Ensigest Group, present in
>  > Europe and Americas).
>  >  - University of Aveiro > One of the highest technological poles in the
>  > country. They form a lot of good people and some of their teachers are
>  > deeply involved in Free Software promotion (like Dr. Ruben Mendes from
>  > ANSOL, which was also a contributer/maintainer for Debian in the past,
>  > if I'm not wrong).
>  >  - Fedora Community > of course.
>  >  - Red Hat ?
>  >  - I would like to contact probably one or two ISP's and mobile
>  > operators (reason: e-student program from the governament provides
>  > mobile networking aswell for students. Supported? Alert to open
>  > source?).
>  >
>  >  Keep feeding the thread and comenting everything, so we can have a
>  > clear inview of what we can do and what we cant do before we start
>  > rallying for manpower and things we need.
>  >
>  >  Feel free to contact me in private: 07721(a)ipam.pt,
>  > nmarques(a)fedoraproject.org.
>  >
>  >  My German is basic ;) (almost 15 years without practicing on it)
>  > English would be preferred.
>  >
>  >
>  >  Thanks for the support,
>  >
>  >  Nelson
>  >
>  > On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 22:11 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote:
>  >> +1
>  >>
>  >> Nelson, your plans are awesome and I personaly like to see it happen.
>  >> You will get my highest support to make it happen. Maybe I find also a
>  >> possibility to attend if it really happen in May or June and during a
>  >> weekend ..
>  >>
>  >> Let's talk in private for more details. Other question; have you also
>  >> asked in the Ambassadors List to get support?
>  >>
>  >> regards
>  >>
>  >> Gerold
>  >>
>  >> Am Samstag, den 27.02.2010, 16:44 +0000 schrieb Nelson Marques:
>  >> > Hi,
>  >> >
>  >> >  Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
>  >> > in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
>  >> > online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
>  >> > event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise,
> cd's,
>  >> > retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star
> Office
>  >> > 5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
>  >> > manufacturers, service enablers etc).
>  >> >  This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened"
> for
>  >> > public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
>  >> >
>  >> >  Congress Center:
>  >> >
>  >> >
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
>  >> > http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
>  >> > http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >  After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
>  >> > time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
>  >> > don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center
> for
>  >> > free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
>  >> > for the two days.
>  >> >
>  >> >  My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
>  >> > instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
>  >> > (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
>  >> >
>  >> >  http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
>  >> >  http://www.ipam.pt
>  >> >
>  >> >   IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
>  >> > Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
>  >> > Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
>  >> >   Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
>  >> > community.
>  >> >
>  >> >   Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
>  >> > presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
>  >> > parking, etc.
>  >> >
>  >> >   I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
>  >> > Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
>  >> > Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
>  >> > Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
>  >> > Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
>  >> > Slowlaris).
>  >> >
>  >> >   Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
>  >> > and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
>  >> > platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
>  >> > continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
>  >> > pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
>  >> > establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
>  >> > amongst other things.
>  >> >
>  >> >   There could be no better background for this.
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >   My thing:
>  >> >
>  >> >   # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
>  >> >   # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
>  >> >   # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
>  >> >      - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
>  >> >      - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech
> (Luis
>  >> > Medinas is from Aveiro).
>  >> >      - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
>  >> >      - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
>  >> >
>  >> >   GOALS:
>  >> >   # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
>  >> >   # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
>  >> > get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
>  >> >   # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
>  >> >   # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
>  >> > of interest to Red Hat).
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >   Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
>  >> > relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
>  >> > involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
>  >> > as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
>  >> > eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
>  >> > LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
>  >> > open source enablers, etc).
>  >> >
>  >> >   I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
>  >> > Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
>  >> >
>  >> >   Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
>  >> > supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
>  >> > company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
>  >> > (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
>  >> > (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
>  >> > pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
>  >> > we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
>  >> > support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and
> such
>  >> > resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
>  >> > (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
>  >> >
>  >> >    I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
>  >> > is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >    If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
>  >> >
>  >> >    - March (too close and important city events)
>  >> >    - April/May (full of students events)
>  >> >    - June (exams)
>  >> >    - July (no great events on schedule)
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >    I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
>  >> > myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space
> (I'll
>  >> > try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
>  >> >
>  >> >    Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
>  >> > old fashion Linux Install Fest.
>  >> >
>  >> >    Waiting for feedback from the list.
>  >> >
>  >> >     Nelson.
>  >> >
>  >> > --
>  >> > marketing mailing list
>  >> > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  >> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>  >>
>  >> --
>  >> marketing mailing list
>  >> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > marketing mailing list
>  > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing

[wonderer]

Hy,

I think thats a great idea.
You should also post this idea on the Ambassadors list. These are mostly
the the people who spread the words...
Also if the location itself is fix you should post it on the Events Page
on the wiki (I intentional let the link away to improve searching
skills...) to find some more people who will help you, who will
represent the Fedoraproject and/or projects within the Fedoraproject.



mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
Henrik Heigl - wonderer(a)fedoraproject.org

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Am 27.02.2010 22:32, schrieb Nelson Marques:
>   
>   Hi Gerold,
>
>   It's mainly an idea for now, and I haven't contacted no one yet.
>   May could be fun, because it's the students festivities (and 25% of
>  Aveiro resident population is students). So, we also have a nice
>  playground to have some fun after the event :)
>
>   As I said previously, I haven't contacted the ambassadors, because it's
>  just a sketch of an idea, needs to get more substract (hopefully from
>  this thread).
>   I would recon that we could eventually develop a bit more this idea on
>  the list and then present it to the Ambassadors once it gets more
>  "stable".
>
>   Here's a list of people that could get involved:
>
>   - Aveiro City Hall (through the cultural and educational department)
>   - PT Inovação S.A. (as a open source enabler in the market, they used a
>  lot of Red Hat when I was there (1999/2001), not sure what they use now,
>  but I can select the people that are pro Red Hat (my former boss would
>  be great, he was the one who teached me a lot about Red Hat back then,
>  and he also gives conferences sometimes, so he has a lot background and
>  experience).
>   - Inforlandia Lda > They were one of the first, if not the first
>  hardware manufacturer/OEM brander to ship with pre-installed GNU/Linux.
>  They are a good company, and they count with local engineering people
>  from nvidia and Clevo.
>   - IPAM > My University (bellongs to the Ensigest Group, present in
>  Europe and Americas).
>   - University of Aveiro > One of the highest technological poles in the
>  country. They form a lot of good people and some of their teachers are
>  deeply involved in Free Software promotion (like Dr. Ruben Mendes from
>  ANSOL, which was also a contributer/maintainer for Debian in the past,
>  if I'm not wrong).
>   - Fedora Community > of course.
>   - Red Hat ?
>   - I would like to contact probably one or two ISP's and mobile
>  operators (reason: e-student program from the governament provides
>  mobile networking aswell for students. Supported? Alert to open
>  source?).
>
>   Keep feeding the thread and comenting everything, so we can have a
>  clear inview of what we can do and what we cant do before we start
>  rallying for manpower and things we need.
>
>   Feel free to contact me in private: 07721(a)ipam.pt,
>  nmarques(a)fedoraproject.org. 
>
>   My German is basic ;) (almost 15 years without practicing on it)
>  English would be preferred.
>
>
>   Thanks for the support,
>
>   Nelson
>
>  On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 22:11 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote:
>    
> > +1
> >
> > Nelson, your plans are awesome and I personaly like to see it happen.
> > You will get my highest support to make it happen. Maybe I find also a
> > possibility to attend if it really happen in May or June and during a
> > weekend ..
> >
> > Let's talk in private for more details. Other question; have you also
> > asked in the Ambassadors List to get support?
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Gerold
> >
> > Am Samstag, den 27.02.2010, 16:44 +0000 schrieb Nelson Marques: 
> >     
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>  Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
> >> in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
> >> online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
> >> event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
> >> retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
> >> 5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
> >> manufacturers, service enablers etc).
> >>  This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
> >> public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
> >>
> >>  Congress Center:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
> >> http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
> >> http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
> >> time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
> >> don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
> >> free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
> >> for the two days.
> >>
> >>  My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
> >> instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
> >> (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
> >>
> >>  http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
> >>  http://www.ipam.pt
> >>
> >>   IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
> >> Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
> >> Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
> >>   Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
> >> community.
> >>
> >>   Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
> >> presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
> >> parking, etc.
> >>
> >>   I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
> >> Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
> >> Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
> >> Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
> >> Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
> >> Slowlaris).
> >>
> >>   Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
> >> and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
> >> platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
> >> continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
> >> pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
> >> establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
> >> amongst other things.
> >>
> >>   There could be no better background for this.
> >>
> >>
> >>   My thing:
> >>
> >>   # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
> >>   # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
> >>   # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
> >>      - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
> >>      - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
> >> Medinas is from Aveiro).
> >>      - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
> >>      - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
> >>
> >>   GOALS:
> >>   # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
> >>   # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
> >> get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
> >>   # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
> >>   # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
> >> of interest to Red Hat).
> >>
> >>
> >>   Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
> >> relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
> >> involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
> >> as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
> >> eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
> >> LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
> >> open source enablers, etc).
> >>
> >>   I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
> >> Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
> >>
> >>   Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
> >> supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
> >> company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
> >> (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
> >> (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
> >> pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
> >> we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
> >> support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
> >> resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
> >> (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
> >>
> >>    I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
> >> is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>    If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
> >>
> >>    - March (too close and important city events)
> >>    - April/May (full of students events)
> >>    - June (exams)
> >>    - July (no great events on schedule)
> >>
> >>
> >>    I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
> >> myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
> >> try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
> >>
> >>    Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
> >> old fashion Linux Install Fest.
> >>
> >>    Waiting for feedback from the list.
> >>
> >>     Nelson.  
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> marketing mailing list
> >> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> >>       
> > -- 
> > marketing mailing list
> > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> >     
>
>

[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

Hi Nelson,

I'm from Brasil.

I would like to help you and the Portuguese community to grow!

Please, keep me in touch and the Brazilian guys can help you on all that
you need in BR portuguese language :-)

We tried last year to help some people from Portugal, but the community
did not received good efforts in your contry last years.

I would like to schedule a meeting with you and Portuguese ambassadors
to discuss about some strategies for you country.

See you my brother!!


Em Sáb, 2010-02-27 às 16:44 +0000, Nelson Marques escreveu:
>  Hi,
>  
>   Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
>  in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
>  online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
>  event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
>  retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
>  5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
>  manufacturers, service enablers etc).
>   This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
>  public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
>  
>   Congress Center:
>  
>
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
>  http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
>  http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
>  
>  
>  
>   After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
>  time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
>  don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
>  free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
>  for the two days.
>  
>   My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
>  instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
>  (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
>  
>   http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
>   http://www.ipam.pt
>  
>    IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
>  Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
>  Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
>    Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
>  community.
>  
>    Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
>  presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
>  parking, etc.
>  
>    I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
>  Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
>  Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
>  Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
>  Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
>  Slowlaris).
>  
>    Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
>  and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
>  platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
>  continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
>  pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
>  establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
>  amongst other things.
>  
>    There could be no better background for this.
>  
>  
>    My thing:
>  
>    # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
>    # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
>    # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
>       - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
>       - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
>  Medinas is from Aveiro).
>       - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
>       - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
>  
>    GOALS:
>    # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
>    # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
>  get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
>    # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
>    # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
>  of interest to Red Hat).
>  
>  
>    Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
>  relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
>  involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
>  as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
>  eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
>  LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
>  open source enablers, etc).
>  
>    I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
>  Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
>  
>    Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
>  supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
>  company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
>  (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
>  (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
>  pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
>  we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
>  support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
>  resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
>  (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
>  
>     I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
>  is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
>  
>     
>  
>     If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
>  
>     - March (too close and important city events)
>     - April/May (full of students events)
>     - June (exams)
>     - July (no great events on schedule)
>  
>  
>     I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
>  myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
>  try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
>  
>     Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
>  old fashion Linux Install Fest.
>  
>     Waiting for feedback from the list.
>  
>      Nelson.  
>  
>  -- 
>  marketing mailing list
>  marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing 
-- 
Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
www.rodrigopadula.com

[Nelson Marques]

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 01:52 -0300, Rodrigo Padula wrote:
>  Hi Nelson,
>  
>  I'm from Brasil.
>  
>  I would like to help you and the Portuguese community to grow! 
 Thanks.


>  Please, keep me in touch and the Brazilian guys can help you on all
> that
>  you need in BR portuguese language :-) 
 As you are aware, we use PT_PT. Thanks for the offer.

>  
>  We tried last year to help some people from Portugal, but the community
>  did not received good efforts in your contry last years. 
 I know. The first generation of people are well in life, scattered
through strategical positions in our major ISPs and Telecommunications
companies. I'm counting with their support on this. I've contacted some
of the old school people, and they are receptive. I'm expecting to
receive a couple of headstrong people who will mobilize the young people
for sure.

 This will be aimed for over 1000 local IT Professionals. And through my
Institute I can hit the entire local Industry, as we have protocols with
all the major corporation in the district.

 In addition I plan to do an honor to one of the community members that
died last year. He was the founder of Startux, the largest community
project ever in Portugal, amongst other projects. He was also one of the
highest contributors of POLI, the first Portuguese Documentation
Project.

>  
>  I would like to schedule a meeting with you and Portuguese ambassadors
>  to discuss about some strategies for you country.  
I'm planning to take this to EMEA and accept Gerold's offer to help on
this. You are welcome as always, but I'm not changing the original
Guidelines of this. This event is also a Marketing driven event in where
I want to show a couple of things to my Institute.

>  
>  See you my brother!!
>  
>  
>  Em Sáb, 2010-02-27 às 16:44 +0000, Nelson Marques escreveu:
>  > Hi,
>  > 
>  >  Not sure if people know, but in February 2001 I've organized an event
>  > in Aveiro to promote Linux (I was back then the responsible for PLUG
>  > online Documentation, PLUG as in Portuguese Linux Users Group). This
>  > event was supported by SuSE GmbH (donated 2 crates of merchandise, cd's,
>  > retail boxes, t-shirts, pins), Sun MicroSystems (500 CD's of Star Office
>  > 5.1), Red Hat (some stickers) and some other local companies (hardware
>  > manufacturers, service enablers etc).
>  >  This event had over 400 visitors in the 2 days we were "opened" for
>  > public. We used Aveiro's Congress Center for this.
>  > 
>  >  Congress Center:
>  > 
>  >
> http://www.cm-aveiro.pt/www//Templates/GenericDetails.aspx?id_object=2748...
>  > http://www.av.it.pt/aveirocidade/pt/congressos/index.htm
>  > http://i.olhares.com/data/big/178/1780535.jpg
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  >  After this background, I was thinking in organizing another event, this
>  > time to promote Fedora. From the previous experience, I know that if we
>  > don't advertise, they can spare us some space in the Congress Center for
>  > free, if we advertise, we need to pay. Back then we payed around 450$US
>  > for the two days.
>  > 
>  >  My idea was to do something different. First, no Congress Center,
>  > instead ask for space on my University and host the event At IPAM Aveiro
>  > (Portuguese Institute for Marketing Management).
>  > 
>  >  http://www.e-u.pt/ResourcesUser/InstituicoesImagens/IPAM.gif
>  >  http://www.ipam.pt
>  > 
>  >   IPAM is starting it's internationalization project, being present in
>  > Portugal (Aveiro, Porto and Lisbon), Spain (Madrid, cooperation with
>  > Universidad Rey Juan Carlos), in Brazil and Netherlands.
>  >   Aveiro school was appointed to be the center of it's international
>  > community.
>  > 
>  >   Through IPAM we can most likely get an anfi-theater for any
>  > presentation/conference, rooms to be used and free space, with bar,
>  > parking, etc.
>  > 
>  >   I would also like to focus that the City of Aveiro has the former
>  > Center for Telecommunication Studies (former CET), now known as Portugal
>  > Telecom Inovação S.A., the Research and Development unit for Portugal
>  > Telecom, where I worked in the past packaging and maintaining our Red
>  > Hat 6 plataform on IBM RS4500 (replacing the Sun equipment and
>  > Slowlaris).
>  > 
>  >   Either way Aveiro also has one of the biggest Universities in Europe,
>  > and in 2050 the biggest. Aveiro is the technological telecommunications
>  > platform in Portugal (Portugal Telecom has operations worldwide in the 5
>  > continents), and was responsible for great accolades, like the first
>  > pre-paid GSM Card in the World, the second country in Europe to
>  > establish a phone network without operator (automatic switching),
>  > amongst other things.
>  > 
>  >   There could be no better background for this.
>  > 
>  > 
>  >   My thing:
>  > 
>  >   # Organize an event to promote GNU/Linux and Fedora.
>  >   # Gather support for space and resources in IPAM (to go zero costs).
>  >   # Promote a couple of background events related to Linux
>  >      - Possibility of someone from Fedora to present it?
>  >      - I can ask one of GNOME Brasero's maintainers also to speech (Luis
>  > Medinas is from Aveiro).
>  >      - Corporate view of open-source by Portugal Telecom Inovação?
>  >      - Maybe someone from Red Hat ?
>  > 
>  >   GOALS:
>  >   # Give to know and Promote Fedora.
>  >   # Promote Fedora with IPAM (see this as a first approach to try and
>  > get IPAM involved with the Fedora community).
>  >   # Gather the local native population for this promotion event.
>  >   # Attract and attack the small business to favor open-source (might be
>  > of interest to Red Hat).
>  > 
>  > 
>  >   Anyone, pull out comments, goals, objectives, pros, cons, anything
>  > relevant. Keep in mind that the main event (despite of any other
>  > involvements such as guest speakers and such) is the promotion of Fedora
>  > as a reliable free alternative either for normal people, students or
>  > eventually to new IT professionals. I can gather some manpower on local
>  > LUGS and gather corporate support if required (hardware manufacturers,
>  > open source enablers, etc).
>  > 
>  >   I have also some bonds with ANSOL (http://www.ansol.org), the FSF
>  > Portuguese branch, and also can get their cooperation almost for sure.
>  > 
>  >   Also regarding to Aveiro, there is currently one company that is
>  > supplying the students laptops through the governament. I know this
>  > company for over 15 years and have developed work for them in the past
>  > (installing and configuring Linux Servers (Red Hat) and Workstations
>  > (SuSE). They currently use the Portuguese Caixa Mágica distro for their
>  > pre-installed computers. We can try an approach to them as well so that
>  > we use Fedora. We have something that Caixa Mágica can't offer, decent
>  > support to new users. I've been lurking on the #Fedora channel, and such
>  > resources are valuable and can make a difference in our favor here
>  > (anyone has status of Portuguese PT_PT implementation on Fedora?).
>  > 
>  >    I know this might be of interest to Fedora as a Community, and if it
>  > is successful we might open new doors to our sponsor, Red Hat.
>  > 
>  >    
>  > 
>  >    If we move on such thing, I would consider the following:
>  > 
>  >    - March (too close and important city events)
>  >    - April/May (full of students events)
>  >    - June (exams)
>  >    - July (no great events on schedule)
>  > 
>  > 
>  >    I would point for May or July if such is to be done. I am making
>  > myself available to develop contacts, rally support, find a space (I'll
>  > try to go to zero costs) and do necessary local arrangements.
>  > 
>  >    Is this of interest to Fedora? The event itself I was thinking on a
>  > old fashion Linux Install Fest.
>  > 
>  >    Waiting for feedback from the list.
>  > 
>  >     Nelson.  
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