Fedora and lack of audio communication with the community

[Valent Turkovic]

Hi,
first excuse me if this is the wrong mailing list. If there is
better mailing list please point me in the right direction.

Fedora has a really strong emphasize on communication and openness,
and that is true in most part from the open communication on mailing
lists and irc channels.

AFAIK there is no fedora podcast, there was one unofficial but it died
and it produced only a few (great) shows.

I also rarely see and fedora exposure in other podcasts; there are
fedora reviews and usually podcast hosts do a interview with Max
Spevack once or twice a year and that is it.

Why?

There are lots of great fedora community members, fedora devels and
redhat people that would make great guests on lots of podcasts... I
believe they should approach podcast hosts with some interesting
Fedora related project, new feature or any other interesting topic and
go from there...

It would be even better if Fedora had an official podcast, or even
better a few official and few unofficial :)

I listen to few of the most interesting linux podcasts and one think
that made me write this post was the Fedora 8 review and KDE4 review
by Chris and Bryan form Linux Action Show podcast.

They made a great show and reviewed Fedora 8 and gave their comments
what they see as bad and good in Fedora 8 (LAS episode 67). They also
said that KDE4 RC1 basically sucks or it should be still called beta
not RC1.

In the latest episode 68 Aaron Seigo from the KDE project got on as s
guest to explain what is going on with the KDE 4.0 and that was a
really revealing episode and really informative on multiple levels.
This could be their best show to date.

It would be great if somebody from Fedora agreed to do an interview
for Linux Action Show regarding issues they have with Fedora 8. That
would be a GREAT thing for us users and fans of Fedora...

Thank you,
Valent from Croatia.

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[Rahul Sundaram]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  Hi,
>  first excuse me if this is the wrong mailing list. If there is
>  better mailing list please point me in the right direction.
>  
>  Fedora has a really strong emphasize on communication and openness,
>  and that is true in most part from the open communication on mailing
>  lists and irc channels.
>  
>  AFAIK there is no fedora podcast, there was one unofficial but it died
>  and it produced only a few (great) shows.
>  
>  I also rarely see and fedora exposure in other podcasts; there are
>  fedora reviews and usually podcast hosts do a interview with Max
>  Spevack once or twice a year and that is it.
>  
>  Why? 
This is not true. Others like Jeremy Katz have showed up in podcasts.

>  
>  There are lots of great fedora community members, fedora devels and
>  redhat people that would make great guests on lots of podcasts... I
>  believe they should approach podcast hosts with some interesting
>  Fedora related project, new feature or any other interesting topic and
>  go from there...
>  
>  It would be even better if Fedora had an official podcast, or even
>  better a few official and few unofficial :) 
Are you volunteering to lead the effort?

>  I listen to few of the most interesting linux podcasts and one think
>  that made me write this post was the Fedora 8 review and KDE4 review
>  by Chris and Bryan form Linux Action Show podcast.
>  
>  They made a great show and reviewed Fedora 8 and gave their comments
>  what they see as bad and good in Fedora 8 (LAS episode 67). They also
>  said that KDE4 RC1 basically sucks or it should be still called beta
>  not RC1.
>  
>  In the latest episode 68 Aaron Seigo from the KDE project got on as s
>  guest to explain what is going on with the KDE 4.0 and that was a
>  really revealing episode and really informative on multiple levels.
>  This could be their best show to date.
>  
>  It would be great if somebody from Fedora agreed to do an interview
>  for Linux Action Show regarding issues they have with Fedora 8. That
>  would be a GREAT thing for us users and fans of Fedora... 
I have send a mail before.

Rahul

[Valent Turkovic]

On 12/23/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  > first excuse me if this is the wrong mailing list. If there is
>  > better mailing list please point me in the right direction.
>  >
>  > Fedora has a really strong emphasize on communication and openness,
>  > and that is true in most part from the open communication on mailing
>  > lists and irc channels.
>  >
>  > AFAIK there is no fedora podcast, there was one unofficial but it died
>  > and it produced only a few (great) shows.
>  >
>  > I also rarely see and fedora exposure in other podcasts; there are
>  > fedora reviews and usually podcast hosts do a interview with Max
>  > Spevack once or twice a year and that is it.
>  >
>  > Why?
>
>  This is not true. Others like Jeremy Katz have showed up in podcasts. 
Ok, Jeremy also shows up in podcasts, I wasn't saying that only Max is
guest on some podcasts but that other distros and projects have are
more involved with their community through podcasts.

>  >
>  > There are lots of great fedora community members, fedora devels and
>  > redhat people that would make great guests on lots of podcasts... I
>  > believe they should approach podcast hosts with some interesting
>  > Fedora related project, new feature or any other interesting topic and
>  > go from there...
>  >
>  > It would be even better if Fedora had an official podcast, or even
>  > better a few official and few unofficial :)
>
>  Are you volunteering to lead the effort? 
I'm not one of those who just complaing and does nothing for Fedora.
If I had the skills, gadgets and time to do a Fedora podcast you would
be already hearing me... but there must be some Fedora fans that can
do this beside me.

I tried to contribute in this way:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315171
but I'm being completely ignored so far :(

And if you lookup my profile on redhat bugzilla you will see a dozen
of bugs that I reported and even more bugs on which I contributed.

>  > I listen to few of the most interesting linux podcasts and one
> think
>  > that made me write this post was the Fedora 8 review and KDE4 review
>  > by Chris and Bryan form Linux Action Show podcast.
>  >
>  > They made a great show and reviewed Fedora 8 and gave their comments
>  > what they see as bad and good in Fedora 8 (LAS episode 67). They also
>  > said that KDE4 RC1 basically sucks or it should be still called beta
>  > not RC1.
>  >
>  > In the latest episode 68 Aaron Seigo from the KDE project got on as s
>  > guest to explain what is going on with the KDE 4.0 and that was a
>  > really revealing episode and really informative on multiple levels.
>  > This could be their best show to date.
>  >
>  > It would be great if somebody from Fedora agreed to do an interview
>  > for Linux Action Show regarding issues they have with Fedora 8. That
>  > would be a GREAT thing for us users and fans of Fedora...
>
>  I have send a mail before.
>
>  Rahul 
You send an email to Chris and Brian from Linux Action Show regarding
episode 67? What did you say in that email? Did you ask for a
interview?


Valent.


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[Rahul Sundaram]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  I'm not one of those who just complaing and does nothing for
> Fedora.
>  If I had the skills, gadgets and time to do a Fedora podcast you would
>  be already hearing me... but there must be some Fedora fans that can
>  do this beside me. 
That's what everybody thinks and then the ideas don't reach anywhere. 
Besides a microphone and recording software there isn't any gadgets needed.

>  I tried to contribute in this way:
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315171
>  but I'm being completely ignored so far :( 
Umm. No. There has been several responses on suggestions on the same 
report which is far from being ignored. You said you were willing to do 
the work involved. If you needed more guidance, you could have asked 
here. What guidance do you need?

>  You send an email to Chris and Brian from Linux Action Show
> regarding
>  episode 67? What did you say in that email? Did you ask for a
>  interview? 
Yes. I said I am interested in responding to the review and discuss 
about Fedora in general.

Rahul

[Valent Turkovic]

On 12/23/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  > I'm not one of those who just complaing and does nothing for Fedora.
>  > If I had the skills, gadgets and time to do a Fedora podcast you would
>  > be already hearing me... but there must be some Fedora fans that can
>  > do this beside me.
>
>  That's what everybody thinks and then the ideas don't reach anywhere.
>  Besides a microphone and recording software there isn't any gadgets needed. 
Well, you need time for research, time to record, another host (one
host podcasts are boring), connections with interesting people in
OSS...

I travel a lot, and some time because of work or because of other
projects I run (an NGO and municipal wireless network...) so you would
hear one show every few weeks if I was the host :)

>  > I tried to contribute in this way:
>  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315171
>  > but I'm being completely ignored so far :(
>
>  Umm. No. There has been several responses on suggestions on the same
>  report which is far from being ignored. You said you were willing to do
>  the work involved. If you needed more guidance, you could have asked
>  here. What guidance do you need? 
Well, if you have seen the link then you know what I would like to do.
I see there are videos and other multimedia materials that fedora
community produces but aren't immediately visible to new fedora users.

I liked what Ubuntu does with their live gnome cd and I think that it
would be great if Fedora also has an exaple folder on it's Desktop
Live CD.

I need the guidance how I can contribute in this idea. I never
contributed anything but bugs so how do I start contributing to this
idea? How can I contact Fedora Ambasadors regarding this idea? How
much space on CD can be spared for this feature?

>  > You send an email to Chris and Brian from Linux Action Show
> regarding
>  > episode 67? What did you say in that email? Did you ask for a
>  > interview?
>
>  Yes. I said I am interested in responding to the review and discuss
>  about Fedora in general.
>
>  Rahul 

Ah, to bad. I'll send them email to check..
I would like to hear you on LAS podcast.

Valent.

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[Rahul Sundaram]

Valent Turkovic wrote:

>  I travel a lot, and some time because of work or because of other
>  projects I run (an NGO and municipal wireless network...) so you would
>  hear one show every few weeks if I was the host :) 
That's actually pretty good for a start as compared to nothing.

>  I need the guidance how I can contribute in this idea. I never
>  contributed anything but bugs so how do I start contributing to this
>  idea? How can I contact Fedora Ambasadors regarding this idea? How
>  much space on CD can be spared for this feature? 
You will have to talk to Jeremy about how much spare he can spare. 
Jeremy outlined what is needed to be done.  For the example video 
content, pick one of the Red Hat videos which are under creative commons 
license.

http://www.redhat.com/videos/ourfilms.html

Truth Happens, Inevitable and Choice are fairly popular, generic enough 
and available in ogg formats. There are a few more you can look up.

For music, try

http://ogg.jamendo.com/
http://magnatune.com/

Presentation -

You can list out what's unique about Fedora in a presentation. Feel free 
to remix content from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations.

Rahul

[Valent Turkovic]

On 12/23/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Valent Turkovic wrote:
>
>  > I travel a lot, and some time because of work or because of other
>  > projects I run (an NGO and municipal wireless network...) so you would
>  > hear one show every few weeks if I was the host :)
>
>  That's actually pretty good for a start as compared to nothing.
>
>  > I need the guidance how I can contribute in this idea. I never
>  > contributed anything but bugs so how do I start contributing to this
>  > idea? How can I contact Fedora Ambasadors regarding this idea? How
>  > much space on CD can be spared for this feature?
>
>  You will have to talk to Jeremy about how much spare he can spare.
>  Jeremy outlined what is needed to be done.  For the example video
>  content, pick one of the Red Hat videos which are under creative commons
>  license.
>
>  http://www.redhat.com/videos/ourfilms.html
>
>  Truth Happens, Inevitable and Choice are fairly popular, generic enough
>  and available in ogg formats. There are a few more you can look up.
>
>  For music, try
>
>  http://ogg.jamendo.com/
>  http://magnatune.com/
>
>  Presentation -
>
>  You can list out what's unique about Fedora in a presentation. Feel free
>  to remix content from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations.
>
>  Rahul 
I'll get on it right away...

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