10:48 a.m.
What do you guys think of putting a team together and making a Fedora Online
Magazine? I would head it (Be the editor-in-chief), and we would publish it
every 2 months (with some other special releases). I really think this would
be good for us. We would have no costs besides hosting for the magazine
which I think the web team could take care of (I'll ask them also). We could
have a set few staff (5-10), and then have open submission where all the
members of the community can send in articles, and the staff would pick the
best to go in. I'd license the magazine under Creative Commons
Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License (or something else?) the point is it
wouldn't be copyrighted (or it can be... but i'd prefer it to be open). We
could arrange to get it printed in the future and take advertisements from
people in the community. No stupid ads for some buy this coffee maker
today..unless the coffee maker runs fedora;). So yeah, I just wanna get
approval, and see how it goes. If you wanna be on the staff and you are a
good writer (duh....) just email me (acapur{At]arcnetworks[dot}biz). It
could really market fedora, get us more users, and teach our users new
things. I really wanna do this, I've got some really good ideas!!
P.S. I've BCC'ed this to the Ambassadors list.
Thanks,
Anand Capur
(Fedora Ambassador)
11:48 a.m.
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 12:19 -0400, Christopher Aillon wrote:
Anand Capur wrote:
> What do you guys think of putting a team together and making a Fedora
> Online
> Magazine?
Might want to talk to the Fedora Weekly News guys. I always thought
that was supposed to be the magazine type thing.
As a matter of fact, I stopped work on this ...
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Magazine
... when FWN came into the fold of the Fedora Project.
IMO, we should *not* fragment our efforts. Maybe there is some value in
putting together a longer magazine format. Personally, I think it is a
HUGE challenge for volunteers. We've been slowly working up from
shorter content to full-lengthy guides for Fedora Docs, and we are not
there yet.
It takes a fair amount of effort to put FWN together. There is more to
being an editor than one might think, unless you have actually been an
editor-in-chief. Even an every-other-month magazine with a small staff
is going to take some full-time weeks to make happen.
Instead, if we build up the staff of FWN, then look at growing that into
outputting a bi-monthly magazine, that has good chance of success. I
think this is a situation where we need to learn to crawl, then walk,
before we run.
- Karsten
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12:27 p.m.
O/H Karsten Wade έγραψε:
It takes a fair amount of effort to put FWN together. There is more
to
being an editor than one might think, unless you have actually been an
editor-in-chief. Even an every-other-month magazine with a small staff
is going to take some full-time weeks to make happen.
Instead, if we build up the staff of FWN, then look at growing that into
outputting a bi-monthly magazine, that has good chance of success. I
think this is a situation where we need to learn to crawl, then walk,
before we run.
+1.
The FWN is continually increasing its size and quality, which is great
considering its publication frequency. It would be much easier for the magazine
to work through FWN and every two months take a "snapshot", extract the most
important past artcles, add up some guides, images, interviews, statistics.
Doing it through FWN is like spreading the editing work in the whole 2 months
instead of 2-3 weeks at the end. The content base would be bigger and of higher
quality (more contributors, more eyes to edit).
A magazine like this will bring a lot of energy to all our marketing/news
efforts, and why not start again the Interviews thing (/wiki/Interviews).
-d
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12:46 p.m.
ok, lets do a combination of both. We can have writers write articles to
fill empty space, we'll take articles from FWN (as bulk of mag), add guides,
columns, etc... How about we intervew Thomas Chung? He seems like he does
ALOT for fedora! So, whoever wants to be on the "core" magazine team please
email me at (acapur[at}arcnetworks{dot]biz). We'll get this "party"
started!!!
Thanks,
Anand
P.S. I run my magazines where we work throughout, not 2-3 weeks @ the end
crunching to get done ;)
1:37 p.m.
On 6/15/07, Anand Capur <anandcomputerphreak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
ok, lets do a combination of both. We can have writers write articles
to
fill empty space, we'll take articles from FWN (as bulk of mag), add guides,
columns, etc... How about we intervew Thomas Chung? He seems like he does
ALOT for fedora! So, whoever wants to be on the "core" magazine team please
email me at (acapur[at}arcnetworks{dot]biz). We'll get this
"party" started!!!
I'm sorry but I'm *extremely* busy at work right now so I won't be
available for interview.
Thank you for your enthusiasm but I would suggest to focus on getting
enough volunteers before you go forward.
Regards,
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Thomas Chung
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4:21 p.m.
On 6/16/07, Thomas Chung <tchung(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On 6/15/07, Anand Capur <anandcomputerphreak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> ok, lets do a combination of both. We can have writers write articles to
> fill empty space, we'll take articles from FWN (as bulk of mag), add
guides,
> columns, etc... How about we intervew Thomas Chung? He seems like he
does
> ALOT for fedora! So, whoever wants to be on the "core" magazine team
please
> email me at (acapur[at}arcnetworks{dot]biz). We'll get this
> "party" started!!!
I'm sorry but I'm *extremely* busy at work right now so I won't be
available for interview.
Thank you for your enthusiasm but I would suggest to focus on getting
enough volunteers before you go forward.
Talking about the magazine... lemme be one among the first volunteers out
here... i would like to give you the amount of webspace you ask for!!
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7:01 p.m.
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 23:16 +0530, Anand Capur wrote:
ok, lets do a combination of both.
Right. I was thinking, maybe bring the magazine under the existing
Fedora News project? That way it is a peer of FWN, working along side,
sharing staff, stories, etc. ... but it still stands-alone
For someone like me, I can then lend my editing expertise to both,
knowing it is helping to train the same/related writers and editors.
One thing to remind people is, if they are ever interested in getting
*paid* to write about FLOSS, this is great training, experience, and
resume/CV building.
We can have writers write articles to fill empty space, we'll
take
articles from FWN (as bulk of mag), add guides, columns, etc... How
about we intervew Thomas Chung? He seems like he does ALOT for fedora!
So, whoever wants to be on the "core" magazine team please email me at
(acapur[at}arcnetworks{dot]biz). We'll get this "party" started!!!
Do you want to move this discussion and collaboration to
fedora-news-list? Again, rather than start yet another new mailing
list, we can ride the momentum of an existing one.
P.S. I run my magazines where we work throughout, not 2-3 weeks @
the
end crunching to get done ;)
Bless you for that! Having an EiC with experience who wants things to
go smoothly as a big +1 for me.
- Karsten
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11:59 a.m.
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 21:18 +0530, Anand Capur wrote:
I really wanna do this, I've got some really good ideas!!
P.S. I've BCC'ed this to the Ambassadors list.
BTW, my other email wasn't meant to discourage; just re-read it and
realized I forgot to say ...
Great idea! It's hard but rewarding work.
Maybe we can get some pointers from the Red Hat Magazine folks?
My biggest suggestion is to do it from within Fedora itself, and make it
part of/related to the work the Fedora News team does. For example, I'd
love to see a long article from Oisin talking about his experiences
covering the developers.
- Karsten
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12:30 p.m.
ok, well I've been an editor-in-chief for some local magazines before, so I
know how it goes. The FWN is just a newsletter, not a mag. I'm talking good
article size, with illustrations, etc.. We can start small (less pages, less
content, and grow) since we won't be a "commercial" magazine we don't
have
"set due dates/times". Also, I've noticed people tend to work harder on
"their" articles, then say user manuals/guides. You get a better sense of
accomplishment. Can I start work on this? If so lets get a team together =D.
I'll aim for a release in August?
Thanks,
Anand
1:28 p.m.
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Karsten Wade wrote:
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 21:18 +0530, Anand Capur wrote:
> I really wanna do this, I've got some really good ideas!!
> P.S. I've BCC'ed this to the Ambassadors list.
So let me ask a few questions.
1. *Why* do you want to do it? Do you want to do Fedora Magazine because
you think it's badly needed? Do you have a bunch you'd like to say? Do
you want experience running an online magazine? I think it's important to
have a clear and honest answer to this question.
2. Is it possible to use Fedora News as a jumping-off point? Maybe work
in conjunction with Thomas?
3. Would you consider working in conjunction with Red Hat Magazine?
Because we're starting to look at increasing our community involvement as
well.
--g
BTW, my other email wasn't meant to discourage; just re-read it
and
realized I forgot to say ...
Great idea! It's hard but rewarding work.
Maybe we can get some pointers from the Red Hat Magazine folks?
My biggest suggestion is to do it from within Fedora itself, and make it
part of/related to the work the Fedora News team does. For example, I'd
love to see a long article from Oisin talking about his experiences
covering the developers.
- Karsten
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Greg DeKoenigsberg
Community Development Manager
Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255
"To whomsoever much hath been given...
...from him much shall be asked"
7:36 p.m.
On 6/15/07, Anand Capur <anandcomputerphreak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
What do you guys think of putting a team together and making a Fedora
Online
Magazine? I would head it (Be the editor-in-chief), and we would publish it
every 2 months (with some other special releases). I really think this would
be good for us. We would have no costs besides hosting for the magazine
which I think the web team could take care of (I'll ask them also). We could
have a set few staff (5-10), and then have open submission where all
A magazine requires of much effort, multiple actors like publishers,
content's generator, artists and most important, voluntarys, without
doubt it's a great initiative, nevertheless, I think that FWN in
quality, format, and frequency's publication and its a great work,
now, have not been exposed as to be it's publish, to that we want to
arrive, without a doubt some FWN is not the suitable format to
approach new users, but we can feed the magazine with FWN content. In
Venezuela, for example we begin a effort related to the subject, we
already have several months publishing a magazine in Spanish with
contributions of the ambassadors for Venezuela, it magazine is called
"Fedora Planet(in english)", which is characterized by be informative,
technical and of easy print, at this moment we go in I number 16 of
the magazine.[1]
I think that we must reflect on this question and consider as it goes
to be the approach that is desired to orient the magazine.
greetings
[1] Fedora Magazine Files (PDF) in Spanish:
http://www.fedora-ve.org/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/Itemid...
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11:01 p.m.
I want to do it, because I think Fedora needs a dedicated magazine. I also
want experience running an online magazine (I think it would be easier than
a print one). I don't have a lot to say, but I am a very good editor and can
write good stories when I have an interest (I couldn't write one about the
dog next door). Fedora News would be our jumping off point, we would get the
bulk of the content from there. Sure, we can work in conjunction with RHM
(What do you exactly mean by this though?). Thomas can help, but in
conjunction wouldn't work out as he says he is very busy (I can understand
that!). There are localized fedora magazines, but this would be the
"official" one. Having it as a peer of FWN, but still separate is exactly
what I wanted, just wasn't sure how to put it. I'd prefer it to have its own
mailing list, so I could get one from fedora-magazine(a)redhat.com, or create
one on the domain I buy.
Thanks,
Anand
4:12 a.m.
Anand Capur wrote:
What do you guys think of putting a team together and making a Fedora
Online Magazine? I would head it (Be the editor-in-chief), and we would
publish it every 2 months (with some other special releases).
The last time we briefly discussed this we wanted to call it "Fedora
Journal" and fedorajournal.com was registered and is still available.
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