Res: Fedora 9

[Henrique de Castro]

Here in Brazil (and I bet that in all Latin countries) the choice of
this codenames have caused a negative reaction even in the more enthusiastic users. 
Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior
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De: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Para: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base
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Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 18 de Janeiro de 2008 11:28:32
Assunto: Re: Fedora 9

Rodrigo Menezes wrote:
>  I agree with Padula, half of these names are diseases or monters,
 man, 
>  this codename should be something cool, not a monster. What is this?
>
>  Fedora Monster, Fedora Disease?
>  
>  I think we need to review this list. 
There was a open call in fedora-devel list and
all of the names were 
suggested from people in the community and need to pass through legal 
review which has already been done. The names won't be changed now.

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[Juan Camilo Prada]

On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 05:55 -0800, Henrique de Castro wrote:
>  Here in Brazil (and I bet that in all Latin countries) the choice of
>  this codenames have caused a negative reaction even in the more
>  enthusiastic users.
>   
I agree, I'm from Colombia and so far many people think those names may
get fedora to lost some credibility 
in front of some other distros. For example that Chupacabra, thats a
ridiculous code name (no offense to the one who proposed it) 




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[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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Juan Camilo Prada escreveu:
|
|
| On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 05:55 -0800, Henrique de Castro wrote:
|> Here in Brazil (and I bet that in all Latin countries) the choice of
|> this codenames have caused a negative reaction even in the more
|> enthusiastic users.
|
| I agree, I'm from Colombia and so far many people think those names may
| get fedora to lost some credibility
| in front of some other distros. For example that Chupacabra, thats a
| ridiculous code name (no offense to the one who proposed it)
|
|
| Juan Camilo Prada - <jprada(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
| http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JuanCamiloPrada
|

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[John Mackay]

-1
Names have allways been relaxed and fun.

2008/1/20, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org&gt;:
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>  Juan Camilo Prada escreveu:
>  |
>  |
>  | On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 05:55 -0800, Henrique de Castro wrote:
>  |> Here in Brazil (and I bet that in all Latin countries) the choice of
>  |> this codenames have caused a negative reaction even in the more
>  |> enthusiastic users.
>  |
>  | I agree, I'm from Colombia and so far many people think those names may
>  | get fedora to lost some credibility
>  | in front of some other distros. For example that Chupacabra, thats a
>  | ridiculous code name (no offense to the one who proposed it)
>  |
>  |
>  | Juan Camilo Prada - <jprada(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JuanCamiloPrada
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[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay escribió:
>  -1
>  Names have allways been relaxed and fun. 
How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8
codename?
8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue
>  
>  2008/1/20, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org&gt;: 
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>          |
>          |
>          | On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 05:55 -0800, Henrique de Castro wrote:
>          |> Here in Brazil (and I bet that in all Latin countries) the
>          choice of
>          |> this codenames have caused a negative reaction even in the
>          more 
>          |> enthusiastic users.
>          |
>          | I agree, I'm from Colombia and so far many people think
>          those names may
>          | get fedora to lost some credibility
>          | in front of some other distros. For example that Chupacabra,
>          thats a 
>          | ridiculous code name (no offense to the one who proposed it)
>          |
>          |
>          | Juan Camilo Prada - <jprada(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>          | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JuanCamiloPrada
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[David Nielsen]

man, 21 01 2008 kl. 20:20 -0300, skrev Eduardo Villagrán Morales:
>  El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay escribió:
>  > -1
>  > Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
>  How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
>  8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue 
Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical creatures. The latter
is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra

- David

[Juan Camilo Prada]

being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a ridiculous
name! almost all spanish speakers may agree with me!!

On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 00:40 +0100, David Nielsen wrote:
>  man, 21 01 2008 kl. 20:20 -0300, skrev Eduardo Villagrán Morales:
>  > El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay escribió:
>  > > -1
>  > > Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
>  > How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
>  > 8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue
>  
>  Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical creatures. The latter
>  is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker.
>  
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
>  
>  - David
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[Juan M. Rodriguez]

While I agree with Juan Camilo (hola tocallo!) that 'Chupacabra' is indeed a
ridiculous name, its one of the many options available.

I hear a lot of complaints about the options, but while most of them are
indeed diseases and monsters (and mayonnaise, whats with that?), its still
to be determined which name is the actual winner, voted by the majority.

On a side note, I voted for Chupacabra because it was indeed a ridiculous
name, but had a hard choice not picking "Dragicorn" instead.

2008/1/21 Juan Camilo Prada <juankprada(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a
> ridiculous
>  name! almost all spanish speakers may agree with me!!
>
>  On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 00:40 +0100, David Nielsen wrote:
>  > man, 21 01 2008 kl. 20:20 -0300, skrev Eduardo Villagrán Morales:
>  > > El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay escribió:
>  > > > -1
>  > > > Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
>  > > How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
>  > > 8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue
>  >
>  > Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical creatures. The latter
>  > is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker.
>  >
>  > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
>  >
>  > - David
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[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

Juan Camilo Prada escribió:
>  being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a
> ridiculous
>  name! almost all spanish speakers may agree with me!!
>
>     
Amen to that, brother!

"Por supuesto que es un nombre ridículo"

[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 17:58 -0600, Gian Paolo Mureddu escribió:
>  Juan Camilo Prada escribió:
>  > being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a ridiculous
>  > name! almost all spanish speakers may agree with me!!
>  >
>  >   
>  Amen to that, brother!
>  
>  "Por supuesto que es un nombre ridículo" 
Concuerdo contigo!
+1
>   
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[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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+1

If a ridiculous name like that is approved, I do not spread in my
lectures or in the Brazilian media. I will use only the number 9 or
people will laugh in my face. lol

Juan Camilo Prada escreveu:
| being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a ridiculous
| name! almost all spanish speakers may agree with me!!
|
| On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 00:40 +0100, David Nielsen wrote:
|> man, 21 01 2008 kl. 20:20 -0300, skrev Eduardo Villagrán Morales:
|>> El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay escribió:
|>>> -1
|>>> Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
|>> How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
|>> 8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue
|> Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical creatures. The latter
|> is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker.
|>
|> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
|>
|> - David
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[Henrique Junior]

(...)
If a ridiculous name like that is approved, I do not spread in my
lectures or in the Brazilian media. I will use only the number 9 or
people will laugh in my face. lol
(...)

+1

2008/1/22, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org&gt;:
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>  If a ridiculous name like that is approved, I do not spread in my
>  lectures or in the Brazilian media. I will use only the number 9 or
>  people will laugh in my face. lol
>
>  Juan Camilo Prada escreveu:
>  | being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a ridiculous
>  | name! almost all spanish speakers may agree with me!!
>  |
>  | On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 00:40 +0100, David Nielsen wrote:
>  |> man, 21 01 2008 kl. 20:20 -0300, skrev Eduardo Villagrán Morales:
>  |>> El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay escribió:
>  |>>> -1
>  |>>> Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
>  |>> How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
>  |>> 8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue
>  |> Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical creatures. The latter
>  |> is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker.
>  |>
>  |> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
>  |>
>  |> - David
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[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

El mar, 22-01-2008 a las 00:48 -0200, Henrique Junior escribió:
>  (...)
>  If a ridiculous name like that is approved, I do not spread in my
>  lectures or in the Brazilian media. I will use only the number 9 or
>  people will laugh in my face. lol
>  (...)
>  
>  +1 
+1
>  
>  2008/1/22, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org&gt;:
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>          If a ridiculous name like that is approved, I do not spread in
>          my
>          lectures or in the Brazilian media. I will use only the number
>          9 or
>          people will laugh in my face. lol 
>          
>          Juan Camilo Prada escreveu:
>          | being mythical doesnt make them cool, chupacabra is juts a
>          ridiculous
>          | name! almost all spanish speakers may agree with me!!
>          |
>          | On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 00:40 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: 
>          |> man, 21 01 2008 kl. 20:20 -0300, skrev Eduardo Villagrán
>          Morales:
>          |>> El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay
>          escribió:
>          |>>> -1
>          |>>> Names have allways been relaxed and fun. 
>          |>> How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
>          |>> 8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must
>          continue
>          |> Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical
>          creatures. The latter
>          |> is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker.
>          |>
>          |> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
>          |>
>          |> - David
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[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

El mar, 22-01-2008 a las 00:40 +0100, David Nielsen escribió:
>  man, 21 01 2008 kl. 20:20 -0300, skrev Eduardo Villagrán Morales:
>  > El lun, 21-01-2008 a las 11:47 -0600, John Mackay escribió:
>  > > -1
>  > > Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
>  > How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
>  > 8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue
>  
>  Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical creatures. The latter
>  is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker. 
Werewolf is related to a movie,
like Moonshine. Then werewolf (as
mythical) is related with Chupacabra, it is OK.
But Chupacabra is ridiculous, other mythical creature is Frankenstein.
>  
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
>  
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[Elio Tondo]

Eduardo Villagrán Morales wrote:

> >>> Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
> >> How Chupacabra is related with Fedora 8 codename?
> >> 8 generations of traditions on codenames, this must continue
> > Both the werewolf and the chupacabra are mythical creatures. The latter
> > is probably better known as The Mexican Goatsucker.
>  Werewolf is related to a movie, like Moonshine. Then werewolf (as
>  mythical) is related with Chupacabra, it is OK.
>  But Chupacabra is ridiculous, other mythical creature is Frankenstein. 
Henrique Junior wrote:

>  If a ridiculous name like that is approved, I do not spread in my
>  lectures or in the Brazilian media. I will use only the number 9 or
>  people will laugh in my face. lol 
I agree. I voted for Woodwose, that I feel can continue the "tradition".

Elio
(from Italy, in the process of joining the Ambassadors group)

[Juan Camilo Prada]

Being fun is way different than what we have here!... almost all those
names represent bad things, and i dont feel like promoting fedora as a
bad thing! deseases, ridiculous monsters!.... what's with the guys who
proposed all those names?...i just hope this next release is so awesome
that it can get over the bad comments that the codename might generate!

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 11:47 -0600, John Mackay wrote:
>  -1
>  Names have allways been relaxed and fun.
>  
>  2008/1/20, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org&gt;: 
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>          Juan Camilo Prada escreveu: 
>          |
>          |
>          | On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 05:55 -0800, Henrique de Castro wrote:
>          |> Here in Brazil (and I bet that in all Latin countries) the
>          choice of
>          |> this codenames have caused a negative reaction even in the
>          more 
>          |> enthusiastic users.
>          |
>          | I agree, I'm from Colombia and so far many people think
>          those names may
>          | get fedora to lost some credibility
>          | in front of some other distros. For example that Chupacabra,
>          thats a 
>          | ridiculous code name (no offense to the one who proposed it)
>          |
>          |
>          | Juan Camilo Prada - <jprada(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>          | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JuanCamiloPrada
>          |
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[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

I can only agree with Henrique and Juan (hola tocayo!), these names are 
less powerful than the last round. I'm particularly concerned about that 
'Chupacabra' name (does the one responsible for it and the voters even 
know or understand what it stands for, or what does it mean?). Sure I 
can do my part by not voting for it, but the choices are rather... slim.