Here's a page for anyone to add to the list of ideas for screencasts.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/ScreencastIdeas
Thanks dude. Good start.
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Here's a page for anyone to add to the list of ideas for screencasts.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/ScreencastIdeas
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2008/6/2 Greg Dekoenigsberg gdk@redhat.com:
Thanks dude. Good start.
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Here's a page for anyone to add to the list of ideas for screencasts.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/ScreencastIdeas
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There can Ambassadors suggest ideas for Fedora 10?
Last time, it was a long discuss with Fedora Developers, It´s a good idea have a little board with some ideas for Fedora 10 from Ambassadors (Ambassadors have so much customer suport and I am sure there are many suggestions directly from the final user). Next we will show the board to developers and they will decide.
What do you think?
As far as I'm concerned, Ambassadors can make suggestions for screencast tutorials. All ideas are welcome and if we brainstorm enough, we can eventually cover all aspects of Fedora that new users may want to learn about. Diego Escobar wrote:
2008/6/2 Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk@redhat.com mailto:gdk@redhat.com>:
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There can Ambassadors suggest ideas for Fedora 10?
Last time, it was a long discuss with Fedora Developers, It�s a good idea have a little board with some ideas for Fedora 10 from Ambassadors (Ambassadors have so much customer suport and I am sure there are many suggestions directly from the final user). Next we will show the board to developers and they will decide.
What do you think?
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Thanks for your response. Is a excelent way to do Fedora better. As you know ambassadors usually are the connection point between the final user and Fedora community in general. In my case, many people tell me some suggestions about they would like to have in Fedora. Always is good listen the user.
Could you explain me how it works? I supose I just edit and write the idea with a short description, there are no more requeriments?
Regards.
Diego Escobar wrote:
Thanks for your response. Is a excelent way to do Fedora better. As you know ambassadors usually are the connection point between the final user and Fedora community in general. In my case, many people tell me some suggestions about they would like to have in Fedora. Always is good listen the user.
Could you explain me how it works? I supose I just edit and write the idea with a short description, there are no more requeriments?
Regards.
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Pretty much that's it, edit the wiki page and type out what the screencast should cover. Explain with details or an example problem that the screen cast would solve, if necessary.
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This page [1] contains the ideas for the LinuxTag video [2] I made.
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Awesome. Thanks for posting that page up there. The list is already looking good. I'll be sure to add some more ideas.
I don't actually know how to make a screencast, but I volunteer for making Live USB screencast. I think it's a really attractive tool for beginners and a great chance to aggregate more users to Fedora.
One complication I can think of is that I would have to reboot my machine to boot the USB... Maybe a screencast made by a virtual machine? Any suggestions?
Rafael Liu
2008/6/6 Jason Fenner axelilly@gmail.com:
Awesome. Thanks for posting that page up there. The list is already looking good. I'll be sure to add some more ideas.
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I don't actually know how to make a screencast, but I volunteer for making Live USB screencast. I think it's a really attractive tool for beginners and a great chance to aggregate more users to Fedora.
Then start by reading this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting (but I am afraid the info there is a bit old and could use some updating)
One complication I can think of is that I would have to reboot my machine to boot the USB... Maybe a screencast made by a virtual machine? Any suggestions?
I am not sure what is the target of the proposed screencast: creating a Live USB? booting it? working with it?
For creation, you can record the terminal window where the image is transferred to Live USB, for booting it, yes, you will need a VM and for working with the stick (live persistence), you can install Istanbul on the stick.
2008/6/6 Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro:
rafael liu wrote:
I don't actually know how to make a screencast, but I volunteer for making Live USB screencast. I think it's a really attractive tool for beginners and a great chance to aggregate more users to Fedora.
Then start by reading this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting(but I am afraid the info there is a bit old and could use some updating)
One complication I can think of is that I would have to reboot my machine
to boot the USB... Maybe a screencast made by a virtual machine? Any suggestions?
I am not sure what is the target of the proposed screencast: creating a Live USB? booting it? working with it?
For creation, you can record the terminal window where the image is transferred to Live USB, for booting it, yes, you will need a VM and for working with the stick (live persistence), you can install Istanbul on the stick.
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Thanks for your response. I had the same question. The list is looking good and growing. I did my first suggestion and also I am interested to do the screencast. (I will learn how to).
Regards
Diego Escobar wrote:
Thanks for your response. I had the same question. The list is looking good and growing. I did my first suggestion and also I am interested to do the screencast. (I will learn how to).
Do you like redundancy? Here is a little screencast about creating screencasts: http://howto.nicubunu.ro/video/howto-istanbul.ogg
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
rafael liu wrote:
I don't actually know how to make a screencast, but I volunteer for making Live USB screencast. I think it's a really attractive tool for beginners and a great chance to aggregate more users to Fedora.
Then start by reading this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting(but I am afraid the info there is a bit old and could use some updating)
Well, some other point to contribute ;) I'll read about it and try to update information there.
One complication I can think of is that I would have to reboot my machine
to boot the USB... Maybe a screencast made by a virtual machine? Any suggestions?
I am not sure what is the target of the proposed screencast: creating a Live USB? booting it? working with it?
For creation, you can record the terminal window where the image is transferred to Live USB, for booting it, yes, you will need a VM and for working with the stick (live persistence), you can install Istanbul on the stick.
Actually my idea was to do all the way to go all the way until a fully functional Live USB Fedora. The screencast should stop once the Live USB is created, but I would like to show how would it be booting and using it (just to show persistence). Thinking about it now it may get too long...
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Michael Beckwith michael.d.beckwith@gmail.com wrote:
Here's a page for anyone to add to the list of ideas for screencasts.
Okay to take this to the next step, here's is what I need someone to do. I need someone or a group of someone's to watch this page for new videos and then turn the information into this page into an rss feed that we can view in miro. You'd have to manually add new screencasts to the miro feed for the time being. For the time being lets stick to an english feed. As we collect more videos we can think about redoing the audio in different languages and setting up additional language specific feeds using the alternative audio tracks.
We should probably consider changing the format of that table to include several useful tags that miro knows how to parse. if we are really clever we will construct a wikipage that we can parse with a tool and generate the miro feed once we settle on a format for the information. Yes, I realize that we shouldn't do this manually in the long term, but for the time being so we can experiment with the entire process including miro as our preferred viewer of this sort of community generated content.
Anyone want to volunteer to generate the associated rss feed meant to be used in miro? Starting with Clint's video as the first rss entry.
Following the format that Jon Roberts gave us in another post would want to be able to construct rss entries from the collected wiki information that look like this:
<?xml version="1.0"?> <rss version="2.0"> <channel> <title>Fedora Project</title> <link>http://fedoraproject.org</link> <description>Find out all about the Fedora Project, from screencast tutorials to video interviews with members of our community.</description> <language>en-us</language> <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:04:00 GMT</pubDate> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:04:00 GMT</lastBuildDate> <docs>http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification</docs> <managingEditor>jonrob@fedoraproject.org</managingEditor> <webMaster>webmaster@fedoraproject.org</webMaster> <item> <title>GVFS</title> <link>http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/GVFS.ogg</link> <description>Have you heard about Gnome's new GVFS system? It lets you copy multiple files at once, queues transfers and keeps track of everything you're doing in one neat window.</description> <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:04:00 GMT</pubDate> <enclosure url="http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/GVFS.ogg" length="4064708" type="video/x-theora+ogg" /> <guid>http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/GVFS.ogg</guid> </item> </channel> </rss>
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone want to volunteer to generate the associated rss feed meant to be used in miro? Starting with Clint's video as the first rss entry.
Has anyone volunteered for this yet?
2008/6/16 Jason Fenner axelilly@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone want to volunteer to generate the associated rss feed meant to be used in miro? Starting with Clint's video as the first rss entry.
Has anyone volunteered for this yet?
Yep, it's been done and the channel is in Miro :) Fedora TV.
What does need doing however, is an e-mail web form so that people can submit an idea to a video for review before it gets added to the feed. If you're interested in helping, maybe you'd like to do this?! Would be awesome if you could!
Best,
Jon
I can try to do this, just tell me what info do you want me to get from the users, and I'll try to do something here
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2008/6/16 Jason Fenner axelilly@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com
wrote:
Anyone want to volunteer to generate the associated rss feed meant to be used in miro? Starting with Clint's video as the first rss entry.
Has anyone volunteered for this yet?
Yep, it's been done and the channel is in Miro :) Fedora TV.
What does need doing however, is an e-mail web form so that people can submit an idea to a video for review before it gets added to the feed. If you're interested in helping, maybe you'd like to do this?! Would be awesome if you could!
Best,
Jon
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2008/6/16 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
I can try to do this, just tell me what info do you want me to get from the users, and I'll try to do something here
Basically we want:
Name: E-Mail: Video URL: Video Title: Video Description:
And then have that e-mailed to an editor or a mailing list (i.e. just needs an e-mail address we can fill in for it to be sent to). What would be cool if the form would automatically update the RSS feed once somebody clicks approve, but this could also be done manually quite easily.
Let me know, otherwise I'll investigate this properly myself when I get a minute,
Thanks,
Jon
got my people doing this, by the end of the afternoon, from here to 3 or 4 hours, U'll have your script right away! :)
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2008/6/16 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
I can try to do this, just tell me what info do you want me to get from
the
users, and I'll try to do something here
Basically we want:
Name: E-Mail: Video URL: Video Title: Video Description:
And then have that e-mailed to an editor or a mailing list (i.e. just needs an e-mail address we can fill in for it to be sent to). What would be cool if the form would automatically update the RSS feed once somebody clicks approve, but this could also be done manually quite easily.
Let me know, otherwise I'll investigate this properly myself when I get a minute,
Thanks,
Jon
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done and done :)
fell free to make any changes.. script made in PHP and HTML :) Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?hixl2zpmbxm
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br wrote:
got my people doing this, by the end of the afternoon, from here to 3 or 4 hours, U'll have your script right away! :)
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Jonathan Roberts < jonrob@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
2008/6/16 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
I can try to do this, just tell me what info do you want me to get from
the
users, and I'll try to do something here
Basically we want:
Name: E-Mail: Video URL: Video Title: Video Description:
And then have that e-mailed to an editor or a mailing list (i.e. just needs an e-mail address we can fill in for it to be sent to). What would be cool if the form would automatically update the RSS feed once somebody clicks approve, but this could also be done manually quite easily.
Let me know, otherwise I'll investigate this properly myself when I get a minute,
Thanks,
Jon
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On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2008/6/16 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
I can try to do this, just tell me what info do you want me to get from the users, and I'll try to do something here
Basically we want:
Name: E-Mail: Video URL: Video Title: Video Description:
You need an explicit statement as to the license. For the time being we should require something like CC-BY-SA on all submission until there is a decision otherwise.
-jef
Srry, I don't understand what you're saying.. can u please re-explain ? :D
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2008/6/16 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
I can try to do this, just tell me what info do you want me to get from
the
users, and I'll try to do something here
Basically we want:
Name: E-Mail: Video URL: Video Title: Video Description:
You need an explicit statement as to the license. For the time being we should require something like CC-BY-SA on all submission until there is a decision otherwise.
-jef
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2008/6/16 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
Srry, I don't understand what you're saying.. can u please re-explain ? :D
When people are submitting items to the feed, we need the people doing the submission to affirm that the video is copyright licensed under terms that we as a project are okay with. The license that is currently most appropriate is the Create Commons CC-BY-SA license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
We can't have people submitting content that is more restrict than that. We could allow less restrictive licensing but that will complicate the submission. Initially we should just require submitters that the video is licensed under the terms of CC-BY-SA for any work. And then there should be a discussion concerning whether or not we want to allow more licensing options than that.
-jef
Ok, but that is the point since the beginning of the project, I think.. :D
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com wrote:
2008/6/16 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
Srry, I don't understand what you're saying.. can u please re-explain ?
:D
When people are submitting items to the feed, we need the people doing the submission to affirm that the video is copyright licensed under terms that we as a project are okay with. The license that is currently most appropriate is the Create Commons CC-BY-SA license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
We can't have people submitting content that is more restrict than that. We could allow less restrictive licensing but that will complicate the submission. Initially we should just require submitters that the video is licensed under the terms of CC-BY-SA for any work. And then there should be a discussion concerning whether or not we want to allow more licensing options than that.
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2008/6/17 Lucas Saboya lucas@cefetce.br:
Ok, but that is the point since the beginning of the project, I think.. :D
I don't anyone is arguing over the point. What I trying to suggest is that being explicit concerning the licensing in the web submission form matters. It should not be implied in the submission form. People submitting videos should actively affirm the licensing so that we have a record that we were told what the copyright license on the material is.
We cannot have this project taking in video into a project branded miror channel assuming the licensing is okay. The submitter must tell us explicitly what the licensing is... just like we expect people contributing code into our repository must do as part of the package submission review.
John did not include a field for licensing in the list of things the webform needs. I am suggesting that the lack of a licensing field in the webform is an oversight that needs to be corrected.
-jef
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