#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? -----------------------------+------------------------------ Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not-urgent Keywords: Categories | Blocked By: Blocking: | -----------------------------+------------------------------ It was mentioned in #fedora-mktg today about proposing changes to the Magazine categories to something a bit more intuitive to readers. With the advent of the Community Blog, the category of "For contributors" isn't as useful, and as-is right now, the categories are fairly broad and loosely defined.
We were wanting to discuss ideas for new, relevant categories that more accurately target the type of material we're putting out. Ideas mentioned were…
- Fedora News - How-To - Events
And so on. What are your thoughts and ideas on new categories?
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not-urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Categories Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+-----------------------------
Comment (by mailga):
When I produced the Italian magazine I had those bullet points:
* editorial (more or less the 5FTW) * introducing the teams (a sort of general explanations of the workflow of each group) * interview (questions to someone tied to the Project) * events (a storyteller talking about one or more events he attended) * software (installation and use of one or more useful software) * first steps (first we started to get more comfortable the use of the terminal) * basic system (capabilities of the basic system e.g. services) * advanced system (as above for advanced users e.g. kernel explanation and so on) * "unknown" commands (use and usefulness of a command unknown to the most) * craziness (fun stuff taken from the forum e.g strange or funny questions/answers) * coming soon (preview of next release).
Of course those categories was studied for a semestral pdf magazine and we rotated arguments based on posts we had in that moment.
I think some of then could be used also for fedmag.
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not-urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Categories Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+-----------------------------
Comment (by jflory7):
Replying to [comment:1 mailga]:
- editorial (more or less the 5FTW)
- introducing the teams (a sort of general explanations of the workflow
of each group)
- interview (questions to someone tied to the Project)
- events (a storyteller talking about one or more events he attended)
- software (installation and use of one or more useful software)
- first steps (first we started to get more comfortable the use of the
terminal)
- basic system (capabilities of the basic system e.g. services)
- advanced system (as above for advanced users e.g. kernel explanation
and so on)
- "unknown" commands (use and usefulness of a command unknown to the
most)
- craziness (fun stuff taken from the forum e.g strange or funny
questions/answers)
- coming soon (preview of next release).
So considering this list, here's a potential proposed list of new categories (mixed in with some of my own ideas), organized alphabetically.
== Proposed Categories, rev. 1 == * '''5 Things in Fedora This Week''' (no change) * '''(Fedora) Contributor Community''' * Articles about "the happenings" across the Fedora Project that are of interest to the entire Fedora user community (wider audience than CommBlog) * '''Events''' * Anything pertaining to events or real world happenings with Fedora (good place for Ambassadors to be engaged too…) * '''Hot off the press! / New in Fedora''' * Either name, depending on how serious we want to keep things. :) * For breaking news about major changes or updates about changes that ''directly impact users'' * '''How do you Fedora''' (no change) * '''Interviews''' * Distinctly different from ''How do you Fedora'' * Can contain any type of interview (example: Creating laser light shows with Fedora) * '''Using software''' * Slug: ''/software'' * For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software in Fedora * '''Using hardware''' * Slug: ''/hardware'' * For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software with Fedora
I was wanting to scroll through our recent articles for more ideas, but I am unable to reach the Magazine right now… if I have more ideas, I'll pitch them later. For now, though, does this seem like a solid set of proposed categories? Any -1s on one of these?
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not-urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Categories Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+-----------------------------
Comment (by mailga):
Good list, I agreed.
I miss only something hilarius. A cartoon or a comic dialogue; something able to break the monotony of a series of articles.
My two cents.
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not-urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Categories Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+-----------------------------
Comment (by jflory7):
Replying to [comment:3 mailga]:
I miss only something hilarius. A cartoon or a comic dialogue; something
able to break the monotony of a series of articles. The Magazine came back for me and I got a chance to scroll through a few pages of articles, so I had another idea for a category too. :) How about…
== Proposed Categories, rev. 2 == * '''5 Things in Fedora This Week''' (no change) * '''(Fedora) Contributor Community''' * Articles about "the happenings" across the Fedora Project that are of interest to the entire Fedora user community (wider audience than CommBlog?) * '''Events''' * Anything pertaining to events or real world happenings with Fedora (good place for Ambassadors to be engaged too…) * '''Hot off the press! / New in Fedora''' * Either name, depending on how serious we want to keep things. :) * For breaking news about major changes or updates about changes that directly impact users * '''How do you Fedora''' (no change) * '''Interviews''' * Distinctly different from How do you Fedora * Can contain any type of interview * Example: ''Creating laser light shows with Fedora'' * '''Off the record''' * For a new type of article relating to anything humorous or perhaps off the "normal" type of articles that appear (for fun articles!) * '''Using software''' * Slug: /software * For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software in Fedora * '''Using hardware''' * Slug: /hardware * For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software with Fedora * '''Word from high command''' * Articles relating to "calls of action" or other types of post about specific topics from deep inside Fedora * Example: ''Fedora Marketing is not a spectator sport''
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not-urgent Resolution: | Keywords: nextmeeting Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+----------------------------- Changes (by jflory7):
* keywords: Categories => nextmeeting * owner: chrisroberts => jflory7 * status: new => assigned
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+----------------------------- Changes (by jflory7):
* keywords: nextmeeting =>
Comment:
Today's meeting is a little heavy. Removing this from the discussion list.
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: | Keywords: meeting Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+----------------------------- Changes (by jflory7):
* keywords: => meeting
Comment:
Putting this up for this meeting. I can do this pretty easily if I'm granted the privileges on the Magazine.
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: | Keywords: meeting Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+-----------------------------
Comment (by jflory7):
'''Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting-1/2016-03-30/marketing.2016-03-30-20.59.html 2016-03-30 meeting].'''
stickster / ryanlerch are the best people to make this call and weren't at the meeting. I'm going to follow up with one of them privately to work on the new categories.
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+----------------------------- Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: minor | Milestone: Future releases Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: | Keywords: meeting Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+-----------------------------
Comment (by pfrields):
I had some thoughts on the categories. I like the majority of the suggestions, but I also believe Ryan as editor in chief will need to make the final call. Here's my proposal with slight changes: * capture CTA posts into Contributor Community * subsume HDYF into Interviews (although the series can keep its name in titles, just like other series) * eliminate comedy posts -- we can't judge how it will come off with all audiences, and we don't have enough articles for monotony to be an issue, so this is a solution in search of a problem
== Proposed Categories, rev. 3 == * '''5 Things in Fedora This Week''' (no change) * '''(Fedora) Contributor Community''' * Articles about "the happenings" across the Fedora Project that are of interest to the entire Fedora user community (wider audience than CommBlog?) * Example: ''We're making Fedora more modular'' * Articles relating to "calls of action" or other types of post about specific topics from deep inside Fedora * Example: ''Fedora Marketing is not a spectator sport'' * '''Events''' * Anything pertaining to events or real world happenings with Fedora (good place for Ambassadors to be engaged too…) * '''Hot off the press! / New in Fedora''' * Either name, depending on how serious we want to keep things. :) * For breaking news about major changes or updates about changes that directly impact users * '''Interviews''' * Distinctly different from How do you Fedora * Can contain any type of interview * Example: ''Creating laser light shows with Fedora'' * Includes '''How do you Fedora''' * requires renaming existing category, can be done in the SQL trivially if not in the WP UI * '''Using software''' * Slug: /software * For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software in Fedora * '''Using hardware''' * Slug: /hardware * For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software with Fedora
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+------------------------ Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Fedora 23 Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+------------------------ Changes (by jflory7):
* keywords: meeting => * priority: minor => normal * milestone: Future releases => Fedora 23
Comment:
I don't think this ticket needs to be on the meeting agenda anymore. I've followed up with Ryan in PM letting him know about the ticket.
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+------------------------ Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Fedora 23 Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+------------------------
Comment (by ryanlerch):
Replying to [comment:9 pfrields]:
I had some thoughts on the categories. I like the majority of the
suggestions, but I also believe Ryan as editor in chief will need to make the final call. Here's my proposal with slight changes:
- capture CTA posts into Contributor Community
- subsume HDYF into Interviews (although the series can keep its name in
titles, just like other series)
- eliminate comedy posts -- we can't judge how it will come off with all
audiences, and we don't have enough articles for monotony to be an issue, so this is a solution in search of a problem
I think ryanlerch as editor in chief should probably make the final call
here, but I think none of the proposals are bad as-is.
== Proposed Categories, rev. 3 ==
- '''5 Things in Fedora This Week''' (no change)
- '''(Fedora) Contributor Community'''
- Articles about "the happenings" across the Fedora Project that are of
interest to the entire Fedora user community (wider audience than CommBlog?)
- Example: ''We're making Fedora more modular''
- Articles relating to "calls of action" or other types of post about
specific topics from deep inside Fedora
- Example: ''Fedora Marketing is not a spectator sport''
- '''Events'''
- Anything pertaining to events or real world happenings with Fedora
(good place for Ambassadors to be engaged too…)
- '''Hot off the press! / New in Fedora'''
- Either name, depending on how serious we want to keep things. :)
- For breaking news about major changes or updates about changes that
directly impact users
- '''Interviews'''
- Distinctly different from How do you Fedora
- Can contain any type of interview
- Example: ''Creating laser light shows with Fedora''
- Includes '''How do you Fedora'''
- requires renaming existing category, can be done in the SQL
trivially if not in the WP UI
- '''Using software'''
- Slug: /software
- For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software in Fedora
- '''Using hardware'''
- Slug: /hardware
- For how-tos / guides / walkthroughs of using software with Fedora
I think this is awesome! and all of our current posts would easily fit in one of these.
My vote is for "New in Fedora" rather than "Hot off the press!", but it could easlity be just "Fedora News" though not sold on that either. I assume this category will contain items like ones about serious security issues, and updates to big packages (like the firefox updateposts we sometimes do)
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+------------------------ Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: normal | Milestone: Fedora 23 Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+------------------------
Comment (by jflory7):
Replying to [comment:11 ryanlerch]:
I think this is awesome! and all of our current posts would easily fit
in one of these.
My vote is for "New in Fedora" rather than "Hot off the press!", but it
could easlity be just "Fedora News" though not sold on that either. I assume this category will contain items like ones about serious security issues, and updates to big packages (like the firefox updateposts we sometimes do)
Earlier last week, Ryan went through and did the recategorization. This ticket is now complete! ryanlerch++ stickster++ mailga++
#210: Magazine Categories - Reorganization? ------------------------------+------------------------ Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7 Type: task | Status: closed Priority: normal | Milestone: Fedora 23 Component: Fedora Magazine | Severity: not urgent Resolution: completed | Keywords: Blocked By: | Blocking: ------------------------------+------------------------ Changes (by jflory7):
* status: assigned => closed * resolution: => completed
marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org