Fedora 27 talking points -- can someone take the lead on this?

[Matthew Miller]

This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative in
previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP

and draft page at 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_talking_points

but note that that latter is currently entirely text copied from F26.

-- 
Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Fedora Project Leader

[Gabriele Trombini]

2017-09-28 14:17 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative
> in
>  previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
>  to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
>  
Hello Matthew,

here I am.
I'm going to work on TPs today and tomorrow.

As you said I didn't follow the TPs editing in the last releases, so I need
to give a glance to the procedure.

I'll keep you updated.

Thanks.

-- 
Gabri

[Eduard Lucena]

Hi!

I was out for a little more than a week, but I'm back. Gabriele, basically
the procedire is to ask each team, via ML or via IRC in meetings or in each
channel about what is new and hot in each part of the project for this
release. There are some groups that goes directly to the wiki and put the
TPs by themselves, so maybe just a revision and edit. The idea with the TPs
is not to have a feature list, but a general idea of the best and greater
changes to allow each part of the project, specially Ambassadors, to take
this into account to promote the new release. Thanks for step ahead with
this and please don't hesitate in contact me if you need something.

Br,

2017-09-28 9:51 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.trombini(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  2017-09-28 14:17 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>
> > This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative in
> > previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
> > to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
> >
>
>  Hello Matthew,
>
>  here I am.
>  I'm going to work on TPs today and tomorrow.
>
>  As you said I didn't follow the TPs editing in the last releases, so I
>  need to give a glance to the procedure.
>
>  I'll keep you updated.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  --
>  Gabri
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fedora Marketing mailing list -- marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>  

-- 
Eduard Lucena
Móvil: [phone]
GNU/Linux User #589060
Ubuntu User #8749
Fedora Ambassador Latam

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hello Eduard,
thanks for the infos.
Do you have contacts for each group?
I admit I ever had issues to understand which group does what.....

I guess you've a list of them and that's will help me a lot (over all for
in order to cut the waste time needed to ask someone randomly).

Thanks for what you're doing.

Gabri

Il 28 set 2017 3:17 PM, "Eduard Lucena" <eduardlucena(a)gmail.com&gt; ha
scritto:

Hi!

I was out for a little more than a week, but I'm back. Gabriele, basically
the procedire is to ask each team, via ML or via IRC in meetings or in each
channel about what is new and hot in each part of the project for this
release. There are some groups that goes directly to the wiki and put the
TPs by themselves, so maybe just a revision and edit. The idea with the TPs
is not to have a feature list, but a general idea of the best and greater
changes to allow each part of the project, specially Ambassadors, to take
this into account to promote the new release. Thanks for step ahead with
this and please don't hesitate in contact me if you need something.

Br,

2017-09-28 9:51 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.trombini(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  2017-09-28 14:17 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>
> > This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative in
> > previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
> > to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
> >
>
>  Hello Matthew,
>
>  here I am.
>  I'm going to work on TPs today and tomorrow.
>
>  As you said I didn't follow the TPs editing in the last releases, so I
>  need to give a glance to the procedure.
>
>  I'll keep you updated.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  --
>  Gabri
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fedora Marketing mailing list -- marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>  

-- 
Eduard Lucena
Móvil: [phone] <+56%209%207568%207314>
GNU/Linux User #589060
Ubuntu User #8749
Fedora Ambassador Latam

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[Eduard Lucena]

Hi!

I don't have one specific, but I will create it right now, right here:

- Workstation: Via IRC at #fedora-workstation very responsive team via IRC.
- Server: I don't have an specific contact, sgallagh do the edits for F26.
Maybe it's worthy to ask him again.
- Atomic: AFAIK they are not releasing with the rest of the project, Really
responsive in any via: IRC #fedora-atomic and #fedora-cloud. It will be
good to ask how they are different and how we should announce this
"separation" to the public.
- ARM: Via ML arm(a)lists.fedoraproject.org really resposive.
- KDE: Via IRC #fedora-kde and via ML kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org. The best
way to reach them is in their meetings: "KDE SIG Meeting - every Tuesday at
15:00 UTC independently of DST"
- Cinnamon: I don't have contacts here. User Grinnz was the one who do F26
TPs for Cinnamon.
- LXQt: They are responsive in their IRC channel: #fedora-lxqt. lupinix is
in charge of this project, and he is really helpful.
- For Labs is wierd, only Design team answer via own editions done by user
Luya.
- Mate Compiz: I have no contacts. F26 doesn't have Talking Points in XFCE.
- XFCE: I have no contacts. F26 doesn't have Talking Points in XFCE.

That's all I have at the moment. I know you did main editions in the
project-wide TPs in the last edition and Eischmann with project-wide and
workstation. I supose that FESCo is a great door to knock and ask about it.

I hope you find this helpful.

Br,


2017-09-28 10:36 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.trombini(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  Hello Eduard,
>  thanks for the infos.
>  Do you have contacts for each group?
>  I admit I ever had issues to understand which group does what.....
>
>  I guess you've a list of them and that's will help me a lot (over all for
>  in order to cut the waste time needed to ask someone randomly).
>
>  Thanks for what you're doing.
>
>  Gabri
>
>  Il 28 set 2017 3:17 PM, "Eduard Lucena" <eduardlucena(a)gmail.com&gt; ha
>  scritto:
>
>  Hi!
>
>  I was out for a little more than a week, but I'm back. Gabriele, basically
>  the procedire is to ask each team, via ML or via IRC in meetings or in each
>  channel about what is new and hot in each part of the project for this
>  release. There are some groups that goes directly to the wiki and put the
>  TPs by themselves, so maybe just a revision and edit. The idea with the TPs
>  is not to have a feature list, but a general idea of the best and greater
>  changes to allow each part of the project, specially Ambassadors, to take
>  this into account to promote the new release. Thanks for step ahead with
>  this and please don't hesitate in contact me if you need something.
>
>  Br,
>
>  2017-09-28 9:51 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.trombini(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>
> >
> >
> > 2017-09-28 14:17 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> >
> >> This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative in
> >> previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
> >> to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
> >>
> >
> > Hello Matthew,
> >
> > here I am.
> > I'm going to work on TPs today and tomorrow.
> >
> > As you said I didn't follow the TPs editing in the last releases, so I
> > need to give a glance to the procedure.
> >
> > I'll keep you updated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Gabri
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list -- marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >
> >
>
>
>  --
>  Eduard Lucena
>  Móvil: [phone] <+56%209%207568%207314>
>  GNU/Linux User #589060
>  Ubuntu User #8749
>  Fedora Ambassador Latam
>
>  _______________________________________________
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>  To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
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>  To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>  

-- 
Eduard Lucena
Móvil: [phone]
GNU/Linux User #589060
Ubuntu User #8749
Fedora Ambassador Latam

[Gabriele Trombini]

Hi Eduard!

Awesome! This is really useful.

Thanks.

Gabri


2017-09-28 16:02 GMT+02:00 Eduard Lucena <eduardlucena(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  Hi!
>
>  I don't have one specific, but I will create it right now, right here:
>
>  - Workstation: Via IRC at #fedora-workstation very responsive team via IRC.
>  - Server: I don't have an specific contact, sgallagh do the edits for F26.
>  Maybe it's worthy to ask him again.
>  - Atomic: AFAIK they are not releasing with the rest of the project,
>  Really responsive in any via: IRC #fedora-atomic and #fedora-cloud. It will
>  be good to ask how they are different and how we should announce this
>  "separation" to the public.
>  - ARM: Via ML arm(a)lists.fedoraproject.org really resposive.
>  - KDE: Via IRC #fedora-kde and via ML kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org. The
>  best way to reach them is in their meetings: "KDE SIG Meeting - every
>  Tuesday at 15:00 UTC independently of DST"
>  - Cinnamon: I don't have contacts here. User Grinnz was the one who do F26
>  TPs for Cinnamon.
>  - LXQt: They are responsive in their IRC channel: #fedora-lxqt. lupinix is
>  in charge of this project, and he is really helpful.
>  - For Labs is wierd, only Design team answer via own editions done by user
>  Luya.
>  - Mate Compiz: I have no contacts. F26 doesn't have Talking Points in XFCE.
>  - XFCE: I have no contacts. F26 doesn't have Talking Points in XFCE.
>
>  That's all I have at the moment. I know you did main editions in the
>  project-wide TPs in the last edition and Eischmann with project-wide and
>  workstation. I supose that FESCo is a great door to knock and ask about it.
>
>  I hope you find this helpful.
>
>  Br,
>
>
>  2017-09-28 10:36 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.trombini(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>
> > Hello Eduard,
> > thanks for the infos.
> > Do you have contacts for each group?
> > I admit I ever had issues to understand which group does what.....
> >
> > I guess you've a list of them and that's will help me a lot (over all for
> > in order to cut the waste time needed to ask someone randomly).
> >
> > Thanks for what you're doing.
> >
> > Gabri
> >
> > Il 28 set 2017 3:17 PM, "Eduard Lucena" <eduardlucena(a)gmail.com&gt; ha
> > scritto:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I was out for a little more than a week, but I'm back. Gabriele,
> > basically the procedire is to ask each team, via ML or via IRC in meetings
> > or in each channel about what is new and hot in each part of the project
> > for this release. There are some groups that goes directly to the wiki and
> > put the TPs by themselves, so maybe just a revision and edit. The idea with
> > the TPs is not to have a feature list, but a general idea of the best and
> > greater changes to allow each part of the project, specially Ambassadors,
> > to take this into account to promote the new release. Thanks for step ahead
> > with this and please don't hesitate in contact me if you need something.
> >
> > Br,
> >
> > 2017-09-28 9:51 GMT-03:00 Gabriele Trombini <g.trombini(a)gmail.com&gt;:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 2017-09-28 14:17 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> >>
> >>> This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative in
> >>> previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone
> >>> to work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hello Matthew,
> >>
> >> here I am.
> >> I'm going to work on TPs today and tomorrow.
> >>
> >> As you said I didn't follow the TPs editing in the last releases, so I
> >> need to give a glance to the procedure.
> >>
> >> I'll keep you updated.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gabri
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Fedora Marketing mailing list -- marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eduard Lucena
> > Móvil: [phone] <+56%209%207568%207314>
> > GNU/Linux User #589060
> > Ubuntu User #8749
> > Fedora Ambassador Latam
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list -- marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>  --
>  Eduard Lucena
>  Móvil: [phone] <+56%209%207568%207314>
>  GNU/Linux User #589060
>  Ubuntu User #8749
>  Fedora Ambassador Latam
>
>  _______________________________________________
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>
>

[Brian Exelbierd]

Consider looking at the Change Release Notes as filed at pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-
notes. Ideally our Release Notes should support our talking points.
Regards,

bex 


On Thu, Sep 28, 2017, at 02:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  This is a call for help on this. Eduard Lucena has taken initiative
> in> previous releases, but can't do everything every time. We need someone> to
> work on talking points for Fedora 27. See the proceedure here
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP
>
>  and draft page at
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_talking_points
>
>  but note that that latter is currently entirely text copied from F26.>
>  --
>  Matthew Miller
>  <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  Fedora Project Leader
>  _______________________________________________
>  Fedora Marketing mailing list -- marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  To unsubscribe send an email to marketing-
>  leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org

[Gabriele Trombini]

2017-09-28 23:28 GMT+02:00 Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com&gt;:

>  Consider looking at the Change Release Notes as filed at
>  pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes. Ideally our Release Notes should
>  support our talking points.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  bex
>
>
>  Hello bex. 
If I recall correctly, when we spoke about talking points at Flock, you
said we could insert alking points into relnotes. Is it right?

Gabri

[Brian Exelbierd]

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017, at 01:09 AM, Gabriele Trombini wrote:
>  2017-09-28 23:28 GMT+02:00 Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com&gt;:
> > __
> > Consider looking at the Change Release Notes as filed at
> pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-
> > notes. Ideally our Release Notes should support our talking points.>> 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > bex 
> > 
>  Hello bex. 
>  
>  If I recall correctly, when we spoke about talking points at Flock,
>  you said we could insert alking points into relnotes. Is it right? 
I dont don't
think I said that. If I did I presume I was tired. 

I believe our talking points should be supported by our Release Notes.
If we talk about something as new in a version, in most cases we should
have a release note about it. This isn't a universal truth just a mostly
true statement.
I think sourcing our talking points from the Release Notes would help
improve both.
Regards,

bex 

>  
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