[Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Justin W. Flory]

Hey all,

I just completed a first draft of the upgrade article for Fedora 24. 
This article will be different from past ones because of the GNOME 
Software upgrade method. I have tried to cover both angles in the 
article. See it at the link below.

     https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=13090&preview=1&_ppp=68bc6904e9

I have also reached to Richard Hughes, the developer of the GNOME 
Software upgrade method, to review the article and possibly offer some 
screenshots of the GNOME Software upgrade screens too.

Is there anyone we could also forward this to from the QA / testing side 
of things? I know last release we had a couple of flags incorrect, and I 
want to make sure we get this a good technical review before publishing it.

Thanks everyone!

-- 
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Huiren Woo]

Hey Justin,

Thanks for taking your time to write up this article!

Just trying to nitpick the details a little:

- Minor inconsistency: under "DNF Upgrade Plugin", the command lines
do not have the "$" whereas the other commands had "$" infront of it.

- Minor confusion: under "Update software and back up your system",
"To upgrade your system, use GNOME Software or enter the following
command in a terminal." imo should be "To update your software..."

Once again, thanks! :)

PS: I saw a few articles you had on opensource.com and the latest one
was about "Imagine RIT", fantastic articles! :)

Best Regards,
Woo Huiren
Fedora Ambassador & Marketing | Open Organization Ambassador

https://twitter.com/woohuiren

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Justin W. Flory]

Hey Woo,

On 06/08/2016 12:49 PM, Huiren Woo wrote:
>  Hey Justin,
>
>  Thanks for taking your time to write up this article!
>
>  Just trying to nitpick the details a little:
>
>  - Minor inconsistency: under "DNF Upgrade Plugin", the command lines
>  do not have the "$" whereas the other commands had "$" infront of
> it.
>
>  - Minor confusion: under "Update software and back up your system",
>  "To upgrade your system, use GNOME Software or enter the following
>  command in a terminal." imo should be "To update your software..."
>  
Thanks for catching these, they were both confusing. I've update the 
original draft to fix both of these!

>  Once again, thanks! :)
>
>  PS: I saw a few articles you had on opensource.com and the latest one
>  was about "Imagine RIT", fantastic articles! :) 
Glad to hear you enjoyed those reads! Thanks for letting me know, I 
appreciate it. :)

>  Best Regards,
>  Woo Huiren
>  Fedora Ambassador & Marketing | Open Organization Ambassador
>  
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hi Justin!

I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find it perfect.


Cheers, Sylvia

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[James Hogarth]

On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez" <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi Justin!
>
>  I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find it perfect.
>
>
>  
The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that the graphical
update method would not be highlighted as a primary supported update and
would at best be a "this thing is coming soon" target...

Then a later more detailed article would be published to coincide with
FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.

We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik was pretty
clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until they give
the go ahead.

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Justin W. Flory]

On 06/08/2016 03:48 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
>  On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez" <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Justin!
> >
> > I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find it perfect.
> >
> >
> >
>
>  The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that the
>  graphical update method would not be highlighted as a primary supported
>  update and would at best be a "this thing is coming soon" target...
>
>  Then a later more detailed article would be published to coincide with
>  FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.
>
>  We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik was pretty
>  clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until they
>  give the go ahead.
>  
Hey James, I thought the decision would be to highlight this for 
upgrading as long as it was ready, tested, tried, and true. In either 
case, including this method in the article is completely dependent on 
the FESCo decision, and in the event that it is not ready in time for 
release, we will modify and strip this part of the article out.

We definitely will not publish this method unless we have a clear answer 
from FESCo and can be assured that the large majority of users will be 
able to upgrade using this method successfully. For now, the way the 
article is structured, it will be easy to remove this method if it isn't 
ready.

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Sylvia Sánchez]

I just said about an image because this way the article looks a bit boring
at first sight.
It was just that.


Cheers,
Sylvia


On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 06/08/2016 03:48 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
>
> >
> > On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez" <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Justin!
> >>
> >> I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find it perfect.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that the
> > graphical update method would not be highlighted as a primary supported
> > update and would at best be a "this thing is coming soon" target...
> >
> > Then a later more detailed article would be published to coincide with
> > FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.
> >
> > We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik was pretty
> > clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until they
> > give the go ahead.
> >
> >
>  Hey James, I thought the decision would be to highlight this for upgrading
>  as long as it was ready, tested, tried, and true. In either case, including
>  this method in the article is completely dependent on the FESCo decision,
>  and in the event that it is not ready in time for release, we will modify
>  and strip this part of the article out.
>
>  We definitely will not publish this method unless we have a clear answer
>  from FESCo and can be assured that the large majority of users will be able
>  to upgrade using this method successfully. For now, the way the article is
>  structured, it will be easy to remove this method if it isn't ready.
>
>  --
>  Cheers,
>  Justin W. Flory
>  jflory7(a)gmail.com
>
>

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[James Hogarth]

Yup we do need some imagery! Imagery is good :)

If no one does it before me I'll fire up a VM today or tomorrow and grab
some screenshots from both Hughsie's new stuff and the CLI dnf
system-upgrade method

We have a little breathing room BTW as Adam mentioned yesterday it'll be a
NOGO decision today due to an outstanding blocker which will cause a slip.


On 9 June 2016 at 01:30, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  I just said about an image because this way the article looks a bit
> boring
>  at first sight.
>  It was just that.
>
>
>  Cheers,
>  Sylvia
>
>
>  On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > On 06/08/2016 03:48 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez" <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
> >> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Justin!
> >>>
> >>> I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find it perfect.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that the
> >> graphical update method would not be highlighted as a primary supported
> >> update and would at best be a "this thing is coming soon" target...
> >>
> >> Then a later more detailed article would be published to coincide with
> >> FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.
> >>
> >> We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik was pretty
> >> clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until they
> >> give the go ahead.
> >>
> >>
> > Hey James, I thought the decision would be to highlight this for
> > upgrading as long as it was ready, tested, tried, and true. In either case,
> > including this method in the article is completely dependent on the FESCo
> > decision, and in the event that it is not ready in time for release, we
> > will modify and strip this part of the article out.
> >
> > We definitely will not publish this method unless we have a clear answer
> > from FESCo and can be assured that the large majority of users will be able
> > to upgrade using this method successfully. For now, the way the article is
> > structured, it will be easy to remove this method if it isn't ready.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Justin W. Flory
> > jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >
> >
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>
>  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]...
>

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Justin W. Flory]

On 06/08/2016 08:30 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>  I just said about an image because this way the article looks a bit
>  boring at first sight.
>  It was just that.
>
>
>  Cheers,
>  Sylvia
>  
Hey Sylvia,

We'll definitely be sure to add in some more images (both featured image 
and screenshots) to liven it up a bit. I know jhogarth said he was 
working on screenshots, and we should be able to pull together a 
featured image fairly easily for this (from past releases).

It also looks like we might have an extra week to work on prettying up 
too, since F24 might slip another week. Thanks for the feedback! :)

>  On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>      On 06/08/2016 03:48 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
>
>
>          On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez" <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>
>              Hi Justin!
>
>              I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find
>              it perfect.
>
>
>
>
>          The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that the
>          graphical update method would not be highlighted as a primary
>          supported
>          update and would at best be a "this thing is coming soon" target...
>
>          Then a later more detailed article would be published to
>          coincide with
>          FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.
>
>          We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik
>          was pretty
>          clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until
>          they
>          give the go ahead.
>
>
>      Hey James, I thought the decision would be to highlight this for
>      upgrading as long as it was ready, tested, tried, and true. In
>      either case, including this method in the article is completely
>      dependent on the FESCo decision, and in the event that it is not
>      ready in time for release, we will modify and strip this part of the
>      article out.
>
>      We definitely will not publish this method unless we have a clear
>      answer from FESCo and can be assured that the large majority of
>      users will be able to upgrade using this method successfully. For
>      now, the way the article is structured, it will be easy to remove
>      this method if it isn't ready.
>
>      --
>      Cheers,
>      Justin W. Flory
>      jflory7(a)gmail.com
>  
--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Sylvia Sánchez]

You're welcome, anytime. Sorry if I sounded too harsh or something.


Cheers,
Sylvia


On Thursday, 9 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 06/08/2016 08:30 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>
> > I just said about an image because this way the article looks a bit
> > boring at first sight.
> > It was just that.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sylvia
> >
> >
>  Hey Sylvia,
>
>  We'll definitely be sure to add in some more images (both featured image
>  and screenshots) to liven it up a bit. I know jhogarth said he was working
>  on screenshots, and we should be able to pull together a featured image
>  fairly easily for this (from past releases).
>
>  It also looks like we might have an extra week to work on prettying up
>  too, since F24 might slip another week. Thanks for the feedback! :)
>
>
> > On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 06/08/2016 03:48 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
> >
> >
> >         On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez" <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
> >         <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >             Hi Justin!
> >
> >             I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find
> >             it perfect.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that the
> >         graphical update method would not be highlighted as a primary
> >         supported
> >         update and would at best be a "this thing is coming soon"
> > target...
> >
> >         Then a later more detailed article would be published to
> >         coincide with
> >         FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.
> >
> >         We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik
> >         was pretty
> >         clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until
> >         they
> >         give the go ahead.
> >
> >
> >     Hey James, I thought the decision would be to highlight this for
> >     upgrading as long as it was ready, tested, tried, and true. In
> >     either case, including this method in the article is completely
> >     dependent on the FESCo decision, and in the event that it is not
> >     ready in time for release, we will modify and strip this part of the
> >     article out.
> >
> >     We definitely will not publish this method unless we have a clear
> >     answer from FESCo and can be assured that the large majority of
> >     users will be able to upgrade using this method successfully. For
> >     now, the way the article is structured, it will be easy to remove
> >     this method if it isn't ready.
> >
> >     --
> >     Cheers,
> >     Justin W. Flory
> >     jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >
> >
>  --
>  Cheers,
>  Justin W. Flory
>  jflory7(a)gmail.com
>
>

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[James Hogarth]

Lots of screenshots!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4cGZbZj-DxyekR4YUNPazFtLU0

The archive includes screenshots from various stages from both the dnf
system-upgrade method and from the new GUI upgrade...

As a brief walk through we have:

DNF system-upgrade plugin:
Installing the DNF plugin
Using the download option
Accepting the GPG key
The message after all the packages downloaded
Using the reboot option
The messages at start, part way through and upgrade complete

Gnome Software GUI update:
Notification banner of new Fedora release
The banner image in Gnome Software on the upgrades tab with the download
button
The progress bar part way through the package download
The notification that the upgrade is ready to be installed, with the
install button visible
The polkit prompt for admin credential to start the upgrade
The final prompt to actually reboot and carry out the upgrade
The progress notification of the upgrade taking place
The notice message the upgrade complete and reboot about to happen
automatically


As you can see lots to choose from for this, or the other, article
depending on the detail desired ;)



On 9 June 2016 at 21:17, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  You're welcome, anytime. Sorry if I sounded too harsh or
> something.
>
>
>  Cheers,
>  Sylvia
>
>
>  On Thursday, 9 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > On 06/08/2016 08:30 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> >
> >> I just said about an image because this way the article looks a bit
> >> boring at first sight.
> >> It was just that.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Sylvia
> >>
> >>
> > Hey Sylvia,
> >
> > We'll definitely be sure to add in some more images (both featured image
> > and screenshots) to liven it up a bit. I know jhogarth said he was working
> > on screenshots, and we should be able to pull together a featured image
> > fairly easily for this (from past releases).
> >
> > It also looks like we might have an extra week to work on prettying up
> > too, since F24 might slip another week. Thanks for the feedback! :)
> >
> >
> >> On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On 06/08/2016 03:48 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>         On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez" <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
> >>         <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>             Hi Justin!
> >>
> >>             I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find
> >>             it perfect.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that the
> >>         graphical update method would not be highlighted as a primary
> >>         supported
> >>         update and would at best be a "this thing is coming soon"
> >> target...
> >>
> >>         Then a later more detailed article would be published to
> >>         coincide with
> >>         FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.
> >>
> >>         We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik
> >>         was pretty
> >>         clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until
> >>         they
> >>         give the go ahead.
> >>
> >>
> >>     Hey James, I thought the decision would be to highlight this for
> >>     upgrading as long as it was ready, tested, tried, and true. In
> >>     either case, including this method in the article is completely
> >>     dependent on the FESCo decision, and in the event that it is not
> >>     ready in time for release, we will modify and strip this part of the
> >>     article out.
> >>
> >>     We definitely will not publish this method unless we have a clear
> >>     answer from FESCo and can be assured that the large majority of
> >>     users will be able to upgrade using this method successfully. For
> >>     now, the way the article is structured, it will be easy to remove
> >>     this method if it isn't ready.
> >>
> >>     --
> >>     Cheers,
> >>     Justin W. Flory
> >>     jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Justin W. Flory
> > jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >
> >
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>

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Upgrading to Fedora 24!

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Great! Thank you!



Cheers,
Sylvia


On Saturday, 11 June 2016, James Hogarth <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Lots of screenshots!
>
>  https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4cGZbZj-DxyekR4YUNPazFtLU0
>
>  The archive includes screenshots from various stages from both the dnf
>  system-upgrade method and from the new GUI upgrade...
>
>  As a brief walk through we have:
>
>  DNF system-upgrade plugin:
>  Installing the DNF plugin
>  Using the download option
>  Accepting the GPG key
>  The message after all the packages downloaded
>  Using the reboot option
>  The messages at start, part way through and upgrade complete
>
>  Gnome Software GUI update:
>  Notification banner of new Fedora release
>  The banner image in Gnome Software on the upgrades tab with the download
>  button
>  The progress bar part way through the package download
>  The notification that the upgrade is ready to be installed, with the
>  install button visible
>  The polkit prompt for admin credential to start the upgrade
>  The final prompt to actually reboot and carry out the upgrade
>  The progress notification of the upgrade taking place
>  The notice message the upgrade complete and reboot about to happen
>  automatically
>
>
>  As you can see lots to choose from for this, or the other, article
>  depending on the detail desired ;)
>
>
>
>  On 9 June 2016 at 21:17, Sylvia Sánchez <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
>  <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[e-mail]');>> wrote:
>
> > You're welcome, anytime. Sorry if I sounded too harsh or something.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sylvia
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 9 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[e-mail]');>> wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/08/2016 08:30 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just said about an image because this way the article looks a bit
> >>> boring at first sight.
> >>> It was just that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Sylvia
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Hey Sylvia,
> >>
> >> We'll definitely be sure to add in some more images (both featured image
> >> and screenshots) to liven it up a bit. I know jhogarth said he was working
> >> on screenshots, and we should be able to pull together a featured image
> >> fairly easily for this (from past releases).
> >>
> >> It also looks like we might have an extra week to work on prettying up
> >> too, since F24 might slip another week. Thanks for the feedback! :)
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, 8 June 2016, Justin W. Flory <jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     On 06/08/2016 03:48 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         On 8 Jun 2016 19:30, "Sylvia Sánchez"
> <lailahfsf(a)gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>             Hi Justin!
> >>>
> >>>             I would say it needs an image or two.  Besides that, I find
> >>>             it perfect.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         The last I recall from the previous editorial meeting is that
> >>> the
> >>>         graphical update method would not be highlighted as a primary
> >>>         supported
> >>>         update and would at best be a "this thing is coming soon"
> >>> target...
> >>>
> >>>         Then a later more detailed article would be published to
> >>>         coincide with
> >>>         FESCO being happy with that as a supported update method.
> >>>
> >>>         We should check with FESCO on this before publishing as nirik
> >>>         was pretty
> >>>         clear I thought that we should not publish such an article until
> >>>         they
> >>>         give the go ahead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Hey James, I thought the decision would be to highlight this for
> >>>     upgrading as long as it was ready, tested, tried, and true. In
> >>>     either case, including this method in the article is completely
> >>>     dependent on the FESCo decision, and in the event that it is not
> >>>     ready in time for release, we will modify and strip this part of the
> >>>     article out.
> >>>
> >>>     We definitely will not publish this method unless we have a clear
> >>>     answer from FESCo and can be assured that the large majority of
> >>>     users will be able to upgrade using this method successfully. For
> >>>     now, the way the article is structured, it will be easy to remove
> >>>     this method if it isn't ready.
> >>>
> >>>     --
> >>>     Cheers,
> >>>     Justin W. Flory
> >>>     jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Justin W. Flory
> >> jflory7(a)gmail.com
> >>
> >>
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