9:46 p.m.
Greg's blog post today
(http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/fedoras-goals/) has
rekindled (no amazon pun intended, i swear!) a thought I had a while
back on starting a marketing book club. Mchua and I had discussed it
a bit on irc sometime late last year, but I think we were focused on
something else at the time, and the idea was lost.
Until now! I would like to propose that we have a "book club" for
marketing-reading-material, but of course, not limited to marketing
team members.
The basics of what I'm thinking are:
* We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
review to the book club wiki.
* Everyone is welcome to join. Nobody is -required- to join.
* Books are on our own individual dime (books are good for you! better
than coffee!) - we should do our best to pick things that are likely
available at the library (ie: not just freshly released last week).
If budget for a book is a problem and it can't be found, we should try
to accommodate people so they can participate.
The goal here (yes, I bang that goal drum a lot!) is to increase our
collective knowledge about All Things Marketing, provide a forum for
discussing what we've learned, and provide us with some brainstorming
and inspiration on things we can do to improve Marketing.
Thoughts? Feedback? :) I've made a wiki page to get the ball rolling
- hopefully we can work out the minor details (things like, "I have no
clue how to run a book club discussion, do you?") between now and
March. This is meant to be fun / enriching - not MORE WORK! - so I
hope people are interested, and if anyone thinks that one book a month
is too much, please say so.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Book_Club
Cheers!
-robyn
11:16 p.m.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Robyn Bergeron
<robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Greg's blog post today
(http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/fedoras-goals/) has
rekindled (no amazon pun intended, i swear!) a thought I had a while
back on starting a marketing book club. Mchua and I had discussed it
a bit on irc sometime late last year, but I think we were focused on
something else at the time, and the idea was lost.
Until now! I would like to propose that we have a "book club" for
marketing-reading-material, but of course, not limited to marketing
team members.
I just seeded the book list with some that I think are wonderfully
engaging and relevant.
John
11:35 p.m.
One big YES from me! :-)
(except for books being better than coffee :P)
Ryan
On Wed 27 January 2010 7:46:41 pm Robyn Bergeron wrote:
Greg's blog post today
(http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/fedoras-goals/) has
rekindled (no amazon pun intended, i swear!) a thought I had a while
back on starting a marketing book club. Mchua and I had discussed it
a bit on irc sometime late last year, but I think we were focused on
something else at the time, and the idea was lost.
Until now! I would like to propose that we have a "book club" for
marketing-reading-material, but of course, not limited to marketing
team members.
The basics of what I'm thinking are:
* We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
review to the book club wiki.
* Everyone is welcome to join. Nobody is -required- to join.
* Books are on our own individual dime (books are good for you! better
than coffee!) - we should do our best to pick things that are likely
available at the library (ie: not just freshly released last week).
If budget for a book is a problem and it can't be found, we should try
to accommodate people so they can participate.
The goal here (yes, I bang that goal drum a lot!) is to increase our
collective knowledge about All Things Marketing, provide a forum for
discussing what we've learned, and provide us with some brainstorming
and inspiration on things we can do to improve Marketing.
Thoughts? Feedback? :) I've made a wiki page to get the ball rolling
- hopefully we can work out the minor details (things like, "I have no
clue how to run a book club discussion, do you?") between now and
March. This is meant to be fun / enriching - not MORE WORK! - so I
hope people are interested, and if anyone thinks that one book a month
is too much, please say so.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Book_Club
Cheers!
-robyn
--
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11:21 p.m.
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 21:35 -0800, Ryan Rix wrote:
One big YES from me! :-)
(except for books being better than coffee :P)
Ryan
On Wed 27 January 2010 7:46:41 pm Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> Greg's blog post today
> (http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/fedoras-goals/) has
> rekindled (no amazon pun intended, i swear!) a thought I had a while
> back on starting a marketing book club. Mchua and I had discussed it
> a bit on irc sometime late last year, but I think we were focused on
> something else at the time, and the idea was lost.
>
> Until now! I would like to propose that we have a "book club" for
> marketing-reading-material, but of course, not limited to marketing
> team members.
>
> The basics of what I'm thinking are:
>
> * We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
> each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
> we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
> everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
> learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
> review to the book club wiki.
>
> * Everyone is welcome to join. Nobody is -required- to join.
>
> * Books are on our own individual dime (books are good for you! better
> than coffee!) - we should do our best to pick things that are likely
> available at the library (ie: not just freshly released last week).
> If budget for a book is a problem and it can't be found, we should try
> to accommodate people so they can participate.
>
> The goal here (yes, I bang that goal drum a lot!) is to increase our
> collective knowledge about All Things Marketing, provide a forum for
> discussing what we've learned, and provide us with some brainstorming
> and inspiration on things we can do to improve Marketing.
>
> Thoughts? Feedback? :) I've made a wiki page to get the ball rolling
> - hopefully we can work out the minor details (things like, "I have no
> clue how to run a book club discussion, do you?") between now and
> March. This is meant to be fun / enriching - not MORE WORK! - so I
> hope people are interested, and if anyone thinks that one book a month
> is too much, please say so.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Book_Club
>
> Cheers!
>
> -robyn
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months if I'm lucky :)
I would however love to sit in on the discussions and see what was
learned
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8:16 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:21:07AM -0500, Justin O'Brien wrote:
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 21:35 -0800, Ryan Rix wrote:
> On Wed 27 January 2010 7:46:41 pm Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> > Greg's blog post today
> > (http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/fedoras-goals/) has
> > rekindled (no amazon pun intended, i swear!) a thought I had a while
> > back on starting a marketing book club. Mchua and I had discussed it
> > a bit on irc sometime late last year, but I think we were focused on
> > something else at the time, and the idea was lost.
> >
> > Until now! I would like to propose that we have a "book club" for
> > marketing-reading-material, but of course, not limited to marketing
> > team members.
> >
> > The basics of what I'm thinking are:
> >
> > * We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
> > each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
> > we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
> > everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
> > learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
> > review to the book club wiki.
> >
> > * Everyone is welcome to join. Nobody is -required- to join.
> >
> > * Books are on our own individual dime (books are good for you! better
> > than coffee!) - we should do our best to pick things that are likely
> > available at the library (ie: not just freshly released last week).
> > If budget for a book is a problem and it can't be found, we should try
> > to accommodate people so they can participate.
> >
> > The goal here (yes, I bang that goal drum a lot!) is to increase our
> > collective knowledge about All Things Marketing, provide a forum for
> > discussing what we've learned, and provide us with some brainstorming
> > and inspiration on things we can do to improve Marketing.
> >
> > Thoughts? Feedback? :) I've made a wiki page to get the ball rolling
> > - hopefully we can work out the minor details (things like, "I have no
> > clue how to run a book club discussion, do you?") between now and
> > March. This is meant to be fun / enriching - not MORE WORK! - so I
> > hope people are interested, and if anyone thinks that one book a month
> > is too much, please say so.
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Book_Club
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> One big YES from me! :-)
>
> (except for books being better than coffee :P)
>
> Ryan
I hate to be the illiterate mouth breather but I read a book every 6
months if I'm lucky :)
I would however love to sit in on the discussions and see what was
learned
I also have a lot less time to read "real books" these days. Most of
the reading taking up my time is email, social media, and RSS
feeds. :-)
But the schedule could be adjusted so even we slowpokes could
participate. Quarterly maybe? Just a thought.
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8:26 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:21:07AM -0500, Justin O'Brien wrote:
> I hate to be the illiterate mouth breather but I read a book every 6
> months if I'm lucky :)
>
> I would however love to sit in on the discussions and see what was
> learned
I also have a lot less time to read "real books" these days. Most of
the reading taking up my time is email, social media, and RSS
feeds. :-)
But the schedule could be adjusted so even we slowpokes could
participate. Quarterly maybe? Just a thought.
I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages of it,
and not find time to finish it in the same week. :)
John
9:30 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:26:11AM -0600, inode0 wrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Paul W. Frields
<stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:21:07AM -0500, Justin O'Brien wrote:
>> I hate to be the illiterate mouth breather but I read a book every 6
>> months if I'm lucky :)
>>
>> I would however love to sit in on the discussions and see what was
>> learned
>
> I also have a lot less time to read "real books" these days. Most of
> the reading taking up my time is email, social media, and RSS
> feeds. :-)
>
> But the schedule could be adjusted so even we slowpokes could
> participate. Quarterly maybe? Just a thought.
I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages of it,
and not find time to finish it in the same week. :)
I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages of it,
and not have understood his entire thesis so you don't have to. :-D
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9:36 a.m.
On 1/28/10 10:30 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:26:11AM -0600, inode0 wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Paul W. Frields<stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:21:07AM -0500, Justin O'Brien wrote:
>>
>>> I hate to be the illiterate mouth breather but I read a book every 6
>>> months if I'm lucky :)
>>>
>>> I would however love to sit in on the discussions and see what was
>>> learned
>>>
>> I also have a lot less time to read "real books" these days. Most of
>> the reading taking up my time is email, social media, and RSS
>> feeds. :-)
>>
>> But the schedule could be adjusted so even we slowpokes could
>> participate. Quarterly maybe? Just a thought.
>>
> I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages of it,
> and not find time to finish it in the same week. :)
>
I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages of it,
and not have understood his entire thesis so you don't have to. :-D
Here's a great one that I couldn't put down:
http://www.predictablyirrational.com/
Awesome book.
--
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10:06 a.m.
Hy,
> I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages
of it,
> and not have understood his entire thesis so you don't have to. :-D
>
>
>
Here's a great one that I couldn't put down:
http://www.predictablyirrational.com/
So if I understand this right this book-reading thing should not be
strictly to marketing stuff such as
http://www.amazon.com/Marketing-Dhruv-Grewal/dp/0073380954/ref=sr_1_5?ie=...
http://www.amazon.com/Guerrilla-Marketing-4th-Inexpensive-Strategies/dp/0...
http://www.amazon.com/New-Rules-Marketing-PR-Releases/dp/0470547812/ref=s...
but also books around that?!
mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
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9:36 a.m.
On 1/28/10 10:30 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:26:11AM -0600, inode0 wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Paul W. Frields<stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:21:07AM -0500, Justin O'Brien wrote:
>>
>>> I hate to be the illiterate mouth breather but I read a book every 6
>>> months if I'm lucky :)
>>>
>>> I would however love to sit in on the discussions and see what was
>>> learned
>>>
>> I also have a lot less time to read "real books" these days. Most of
>> the reading taking up my time is email, social media, and RSS
>> feeds. :-)
>>
>> But the schedule could be adjusted so even we slowpokes could
>> participate. Quarterly maybe? Just a thought.
>>
> I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages of it,
> and not find time to finish it in the same week. :)
>
I dare you to pick up a book by Malcolm Gladwell, read 10 pages of it,
and not have understood his entire thesis so you don't have to. :-D
Isn't that the point of a good thesis? ;) Then you back it up!
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11:42 p.m.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Ryan Rix <ry(a)n.rix.si> wrote:
One big YES from me! :-)
(except for books being better than coffee :P)
Ryan
I agree, coffee taste better. Count me in !!
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6:27 a.m.
OMG!! this is perfect
/me LOVES to read :D
2010/1/28 Neville A. Cross <nacross(a)gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Ryan Rix <ry(a)n.rix.si>
wrote:
> One big YES from me! :-)
>
> (except for books being better than coffee :P)
>
> Ryan
>
I agree, coffee taste better. Count me in !!
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8:54 a.m.
I'm in. What do we need to figure out?
* will books and discussions happen on this list, Planet, another list, etc?
* how often? starting when?
* how does a book get chosen?
--Mel
11:40 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Robyn Bergeron
<robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
* We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
review to the book club wiki.
Ok, there are some books suggested now on the wiki and I would
encourage folks to make suggestions there rather than here. So we need
to decide how to choose the book of the month and choose it soon for
March. While I suspect many/most of the people on the list currently
have already read the starfish and the spider I still think it would
be a good book to begin with. Refresh our memory of it and have a
useful discussion about how it relates to the Fedora Project and how
it doesn't.
We should more widely advertise this too as I think this is
interesting to more than the marketing group. I know I'd like to see
many more ambassadors join.
John
12:14 a.m.
On (Mon) Feb 01 2010 [11:40:24], inode0 wrote:
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Robyn Bergeron
<robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> * We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
> each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
> we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
> everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
> learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
> review to the book club wiki.
Ok, there are some books suggested now on the wiki and I would
encourage folks to make suggestions there rather than here.
I've gone ahead and tabulated the list of books and also put a 'I have
it!' and 'Notes' columns so that people can indicate if they have ready
access to a book and any other comments they might have.
BTW I'm not sure if I'll be able to participate right away, but I can
lend the books I have to anyone here (Rahul, Sankarshan).
BTW2: I never introduced myself here so here's a short take: I'm a
software engineer based in Pune, India, joined Red Hat via the Qumranet
acquisition and like to read and write -- one of my articles on F12 Virt
for a mag was discussed here earlier. I've been a mute spectator on the
list for about a month now and hang around on irc as 'duh' or
'amitshah'. I like the work you folks are doing and hope to participate
as time passes!
Amit
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2:41 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 19:40, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Robyn Bergeron
<robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> * We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
> each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
> we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
> everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
> learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
> review to the book club wiki.
Ok, there are some books suggested now on the wiki and I would
encourage folks to make suggestions there rather than here. So we need
to decide how to choose the book of the month and choose it soon for
March. While I suspect many/most of the people on the list currently
have already read the starfish and the spider I still think it would
be a good book to begin with. Refresh our memory of it and have a
useful discussion about how it relates to the Fedora Project and how
it doesn't.
We should more widely advertise this too as I think this is
interesting to more than the marketing group. I know I'd like to see
many more ambassadors join.
Since nothing has happened on this topic for a while, John suggested
on IRC tonight that we just announce some titles and see how it goes.
So here it is:
For June: The Starfish and the Spider
For July: The Wisdom of Crowds
Each one followed by an IRC discussion at the end of each month
(#fedora-mktg?), date to be determined.
Happy reading!
/Lars
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3:10 p.m.
Sweet. Thanks for picking it up. Do you want to update the wiki page
and maybe cross-post to ambassadors? Or.... Everyone, really (blog
post??)
-robyn
On 5/29/10, delhage(a)gmail.com <delhage(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 19:40, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Robyn Bergeron
> <robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> * We start with a book in March. One book per month - at the end of
>> each month, we have an IRC discussion on what we've learned, and how
>> we can apply it to Fedora and what we're working on. Hopefully,
>> everyone will want to do things like blog about what they've read and
>> learned, or write about it to the fedora-mktg mailing list, or add a
>> review to the book club wiki.
>
> Ok, there are some books suggested now on the wiki and I would
> encourage folks to make suggestions there rather than here. So we need
> to decide how to choose the book of the month and choose it soon for
> March. While I suspect many/most of the people on the list currently
> have already read the starfish and the spider I still think it would
> be a good book to begin with. Refresh our memory of it and have a
> useful discussion about how it relates to the Fedora Project and how
> it doesn't.
>
> We should more widely advertise this too as I think this is
> interesting to more than the marketing group. I know I'd like to see
> many more ambassadors join.
>
Since nothing has happened on this topic for a while, John suggested
on IRC tonight that we just announce some titles and see how it goes.
So here it is:
For June: The Starfish and the Spider
For July: The Wisdom of Crowds
Each one followed by an IRC discussion at the end of each month
(#fedora-mktg?), date to be determined.
Happy reading!
/Lars
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On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 22:10, Robyn Bergeron <robyn.bergeron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Sweet. Thanks for picking it up. Do you want to update the wiki page
and maybe cross-post to ambassadors? Or.... Everyone, really (blog
post??)
Wiki updated. Perhaps we should post to fedora-announce-list? Or just
to ambassadors?
/Lars
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