*Hey Guys!!!*
My LinuxGlobe podcasts are NOW available through itunes!!! Here's the link :
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=284567837
OGGs are available too, just go to linuxglobe.wordpress.com!
Spread the word about Fedora and LinuxGlobe, together, we can make a difference!!!
Onward and forward, Happy 4th!!!
*Markus McLaughlin Hudson, MA, USA*
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Ian Weller ianweller@gmail.com wrote:
I find it interesting that you chose iTunes, proprietary software, as a deployment medium. -- ian
And iTunes, to my knowledge, supports only MP3, a patent-encumbered format, for podcasts. Interesting indeed.
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 00:39 -0400, Jon Stanley wrote:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Ian Weller ianweller@gmail.com wrote:
I find it interesting that you chose iTunes, proprietary software, as a deployment medium. -- ian
And iTunes, to my knowledge, supports only MP3, a patent-encumbered format, for podcasts. Interesting indeed.
In fairness, he has Ogg Vorbis available. And as much as we might loathe MP3 for its encumbrances, if the point is to reach out to people, we're not going to accomplish that by only publishing Ogg Vorbis. Now if we could harness the loathing to get Apple to support Ogg natively on the iPod.... (And yes, I realize this has been tried before, ultimately with no result. A guy can dream, right?)
2008/7/2 Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com:
In fairness, he has Ogg Vorbis available. And as much as we might loathe MP3 for its encumbrances, if the point is to reach out to people, we're not going to accomplish that by only publishing Ogg Vorbis.
I agree with this. As long as community members are producing Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Theora versions of materials as a primary resource, its perfectly okay for them to replicate the same material into other formats, as long as they do so in a legal manner. For example archive.org has a transcoding service which anyone can use to transcode works, as long as the copyright license on the work allows you to.
All I ask is that community members make an effort to link/pointer to the Ogg Vorbis or Ogg Theora videos when other formats are made available whenever it is reasonable to provide that additional contextual information.
Without remarking on the quality of this particular podcast...or on itunes as a distribution medium. I will say that I hope that Mark here gets involved in what Jon is trying to do with our Miro channel and starts experimenting with providing Fedora user relevant content through that mechanism. Itunes maybe a reasonable tool for outreach to people who have yet taken the plunge, but we also need creative people (ie not me) working on content aimed at people who are actively running Fedora. A set of Fedora Miro channel(s), is probably the best delivery mechanism we have identified. Though we could of course pre-populate other applications like gpodder with a Fedora podcast feed if we so desired. Being the gpodder maintainer, something I'm willing to do for F10 if we feel comfortable about the quality of the content in the channel.
I would like to challenge Mark to think about delivering a periodic Ogg Vorbis podcast for our Miro channel, with content that is targeted at our existing userbase. I would also humbly suggest that if he were going to take up the challenge, that he attempt to survey people on the fedora-list and possible the fedoraforum.org forums for feedback as to the sort of podcast content that would be compelling to a wide audience in our existing userbase.
-jef
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to challenge Mark to think about delivering a periodic Ogg Vorbis podcast for our Miro channel, with content that is targeted at our existing userbase. I would also humbly suggest that if he were going to take up the challenge, that he attempt to survey people on the fedora-list and possible the fedoraforum.org forums for feedback as to the sort of podcast content that would be compelling to a wide audience in our existing userbase.
I need more coffee... why did I write his name as Mark, instead of Markus.I apologize for taking such liberties with another person's name.
-jef"f "spaleta
2008/7/2 Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Jeff Spaleta jspaleta@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to challenge Mark to think about delivering a periodic Ogg Vorbis podcast for our Miro channel, with content that is targeted at our existing userbase. I would also humbly suggest that if he were going to take up the challenge, that he attempt to survey people on the fedora-list and possible the fedoraforum.org forums for feedback as to the sort of podcast content that would be compelling to a wide audience in our existing userbase.
I've also dropped a message to the people doing the Fedora Reloaded podcast and invited them to drop by the marketing-list...
Best,
Jon
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I've also dropped a message to the people doing the Fedora Reloaded podcast and invited them to drop by the marketing-list...
Best,
Jon
I thought you might just do that.
There's some untapped potential here for sure. I think people should get their heads together as a bigger team and layout a plan for what content to produce over the course of the F10 release cycle. We definitely have the tools in-distro for audio casting of reasonable quality. The video stuff is going to be a harder slog, given the state of the tools we can ship. But I think its a worthwhile slog, and I hope that as we beat our heads against the brick wall a bit out in the open, trying to get useful video out the door, we'll attract the people who will find that the video tools are the itch they want to scratch..but they just don't realize it yet because no one has told them has pointed out to them yet just how itchy that particular part of our ecosystem is.
-jef"Open video production tools, is like that spot right between your shoulder blades...the spot back scratchers were invented for."spaleta
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