[Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Justin W. Flory]

Hi all,

After too long of a time, I finally exported the interview with Jonathan
Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future makers in school".
If you have a moment, please take some time to review this draft (my
biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).

https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc

Thanks all!

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Brian Monroe]

Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly: "Fedora Teaches
Future Makers in School"

I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else looked pretty
good.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> After too long of a time, I finally exported the interview with Jonathan
> Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future makers in school".
> If you have a moment, please take some time to review this draft (my
> biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).
> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
>
> Thanks all!
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Justin W. Flory
> [e-mail]
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Sylvia Sánchez]

I'm reading, looks very nice.  Thanks for the article!

On 3 May 2016 at 12:45, Brian Monroe  wrote:
> Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly: "Fedora Teaches
> Future Makers in School"
>
> I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else looked pretty
> good.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After too long of a time, I finally exported the interview with Jonathan
> > Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future makers in school".
> > If you have a moment, please take some time to review this draft (my
> > biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).
> > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
> >
> > Thanks all!
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Justin W. Flory
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > --
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[beta tester]

The article is nicely written and quiet informative. Thanks for your
contribution.

Regards,
Dilip Khanolkar
[phone]
On 03-May-2016 9:35 PM, "Sylvia Sánchez"  wrote:
> I'm reading, looks very nice.  Thanks for the article!
>
> On 3 May 2016 at 12:45, Brian Monroe  wrote:
> > Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly: "Fedora Teaches
> > Future Makers in School"
> >
> > I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else looked
> > pretty good.
> >
> > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > After too long of a time, I finally exported the interview with Jonathan
> > > Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future makers in school".
> > > If you have a moment, please take some time to review this draft (my
> > > biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).
> > > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
> > >
> > > Thanks all!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Justin W. Flory
> > > [e-mail]
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > >
> > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >
> > --
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hi!
Why are separated  "children, young adults and students"  as if students
were another age?  Shouldn't be  "professors and students, either children,
teens or young adults"?  Or something like that?

Cheers,
Sylvia

On 3 May 2016 at 16:55, beta tester  wrote:
> The article is nicely written and quiet informative. Thanks for your
> contribution.
>
> Regards,
> Dilip Khanolkar
> [phone]
> On 03-May-2016 9:35 PM, "Sylvia Sánchez"  wrote:
> > I'm reading, looks very nice.  Thanks for the article!
> >
> > On 3 May 2016 at 12:45, Brian Monroe  wrote:
> > > Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly: "Fedora Teaches
> > > Future Makers in School"
> > >
> > > I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else looked
> > > pretty good.
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > After too long of a time, I finally exported the interview with Jonathan
> > > > Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future makers in school".
> > > > If you have a moment, please take some time to review this draft (my
> > > > biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).
> > > > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Justin W. Flory
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > >
> > > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > >
> > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
> >
> > --
> > Fedora Marketing mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Justin W. Flory]

On 05/03/2016 04:29 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> Hi!
> Why are separated  "children, young adults and students"  as if students
> were another age?  Shouldn't be  "professors and students, either
> children, teens or young adults"?  Or something like that?
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvia

Hey Sylvia, good catch. That does sound a little bit weird. I edited in
your suggestion since that sounds nicer. Thanks for the tip!
> On 3 May 2016 at 16:55, beta tester <[e-mail]
> > wrote:
> The article is nicely written and quiet informative. Thanks for your
> contribution.
>
> Regards,
> Dilip Khanolkar
> [phone] <tel:%2B919833018122>
>
> On 03-May-2016 9:35 PM, "Sylvia Sánchez" <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     I'm reading, looks very nice.  Thanks for the article!
>
>     On 3 May 2016 at 12:45, Brian Monroe <[e-mail]
>     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>         Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly:
>         "Fedora Teaches Future Makers in School" 

Hey Brian, thanks for the feedback. Usually for styling in the articles
on the Magazine, we only capitalize proper nouns. I'm sure there's a
rule in journalism about what is actually appropriate, but this is the
format we generally follow on the Magazine. Although, this article title
does come off a little bit "newsier" so maybe it would make more sense.
Not a bad idea to clarify this for this and future articles in our
meeting today.
>         I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else
>         looked pretty good. 
>
>         On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory
>         <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>             Hi all,
>
>             After too long of a time, I finally exported the
>             interview with Jonathan
>             Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future
>             makers in school".
>             If you have a moment, please take some time to review
>             this draft (my
>             biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).
>
>
>             https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
>
>             Thanks all!

Thanks for the feedback! I have some feedback from jdieter to
incorporate soon, and once it's in, I think this will be ready to publish.

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[beta tester]

Hey don't mind i wanted a small help is there any style guide or any great
guidelines. That can be followed normally when writing articles.

Regards,
Dilip Khanolkar
[phone]
On 05-May-2016 8:32 AM, "Justin W. Flory"  wrote:
> On 05/03/2016 04:29 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
> > Hi!
> > Why are separated  "children, young adults and students"  as if students
> > were another age?  Shouldn't be  "professors and students, either
> > children, teens or young adults"?  Or something like that?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sylvia
>
> Hey Sylvia, good catch. That does sound a little bit weird. I edited in
> your suggestion since that sounds nicer. Thanks for the tip!
> > On 3 May 2016 at 16:55, beta tester <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > The article is nicely written and quiet informative. Thanks for your
> > contribution.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dilip Khanolkar
> > [phone] <tel:%2B919833018122>
> >
> > On 03-May-2016 9:35 PM, "Sylvia Sánchez" <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     I'm reading, looks very nice.  Thanks for the article!
> >
> >     On 3 May 2016 at 12:45, Brian Monroe <[e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >         Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly:
> >         "Fedora Teaches Future Makers in School"
>
> Hey Brian, thanks for the feedback. Usually for styling in the articles
> on the Magazine, we only capitalize proper nouns. I'm sure there's a
> rule in journalism about what is actually appropriate, but this is the
> format we generally follow on the Magazine. Although, this article title
> does come off a little bit "newsier" so maybe it would make more sense.
> Not a bad idea to clarify this for this and future articles in our
> meeting today.
> >         I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else
> >         looked pretty good.
> >
> >         On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory
> >         <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >             Hi all,
> >
> >             After too long of a time, I finally exported the
> >             interview with Jonathan
> >             Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future
> >             makers in school".
> >             If you have a moment, please take some time to review
> >             this draft (my
> >             biggest concern for this is formatting for the
>
> interview).
> >
>
> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
> >             Thanks all!
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I have some feedback from jdieter to
> incorporate soon, and once it's in, I think this will be ready to publish.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Justin W. Flory
> [e-mail]
>
> --
> Fedora Marketing mailing list
> [e-mail]
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[e-mail]

[Marketing] Getting started writing (was Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school")

[Justin W. Flory]

On 05/05/2016 06:46 AM, beta tester wrote:
> Hey don't mind i wanted a small help is there any style guide or any
> great guidelines. That can be followed normally when writing articles.
>
> Regards,
> Dilip Khanolkar

Hi Dilip, you can find more information on these two pages. Let us know
if you have questions about getting started with writing for the Magazine!

https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/

https://fedoramagazine.org/writing-a-new-pitch/

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
[e-mail]

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Paul W. Frields]

On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 04:16:18PM +0530, beta tester wrote:
> Hey don't mind i wanted a small help is there any style guide or any
> great guidelines. That can be followed normally when writing
> articles.

I've been thinking about doing that, but general guidelines for good
writing apply universally.  Strunk and White is a good place to start.
Here are some of my observations where we can improve writing in the
Magazine:

* Avoid passive voice, which unnecessarily lengthens sentences and is
  harder to read.

NOT AS GOOD:  A new release of the Firefox package was made by the
  maintainers last week.
  BETTER:  Maintainers made a new Firefox release last week.

* Avoid gerunds -- words that end with "-ing."  They are often signs
  of a weak or passive voice, and they decrease readability.
  Reformulate the sentence.

NOT AS GOOD: The resolution is aiming to decrease the time between
  security updates.
  BETTER: The resolution aims to decrease the time between security
  updates.

* Shorter sentences are easier to read.  Avoid long compound sentences
  where possible.

* Shorter words are easier to read.  Avoid big words where a smaller
  one is just as effective.

* Brevity is great, but clarity is fabulous.

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Sylvia Sánchez]

As far as I know there's no rule to capitalising titles or headlines.
To me should be Fedora and nothing else.  It's confusing capitilising
everything.  Remember other languages don't capitalise all words but
certain very specific ones (like German) or only names and first word
after dot (like Spanish).  Let's try to make as wide as possible.

Besides that, I think we could make other articles on the same line.
This one is very nice but doesn't highlight the benefits from the
student/professor point of view.  The interviewed man says himself
that they chose Fedora because of IT reasons not educational ones.
So maybe other posts showing, let's say, educational tools or
interesting programs for students / professors / teachers  (of any
level and age)  would be awesome.
My thought.

Cheers,
Sylvia
>

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 03:45:22PM +0000, Brian Monroe wrote:
> Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly: "Fedora Teaches
> Future Makers in School"

Actually, our style default for the Magazine is sentence case, to
avoid arguments about title casing which differ by nationality.
> I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else looked pretty
> good.

Agreed!  I made some minor corrections and style edits, but it was all
awesome.  I'd love to see this go out during the upcoming schedule.
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After too long of a time, I finally exported the interview with Jonathan
> > Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future makers in school".
> > If you have a moment, please take some time to review this draft (my
> > biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).
> > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
> >
> > Thanks all!

[Marketing] Re: [Magazine] Pending review: "Fedora teaches future makers in school"

[Justin W. Flory]

On 05/05/2016 10:56 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 03:45:22PM +0000, Brian Monroe wrote:
> > Small Thing: The title should be capitalized properly: "Fedora Teaches
> > Future Makers in School"
>
> Actually, our style default for the Magazine is sentence case, to
> avoid arguments about title casing which differ by nationality.

Ahh, awesome, that's good to know. Thanks for the clarification!
> > I only had time to give it a brief scan, but everything else looked pretty
> > good.
>
> Agreed!  I made some minor corrections and style edits, but it was all
> awesome.  I'd love to see this go out during the upcoming schedule.

Thanks for taking the time to review! We have Matt's HomeBank article
scheduled for tomorrow, and I told Jonathan we could probably aim on
getting it out Monday. Shooting for a Monday publication date sounds
like a good plan to me if we're all set.

The last thing I think this article needs is a featured image. We could
also use one of the provided pictures (all the pictures I have uploaded
are in the Media Gallery on the Magazine).
> > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM Justin W. Flory  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > After too long of a time, I finally exported the interview with Jonathan
> > > Dieter into a Magazine draft, "Fedora teaches future makers in school".
> > > If you have a moment, please take some time to review this draft (my
> > > biggest concern for this is formatting for the interview).
> > > https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12806&preview=1&_ppp=137a3117cc
> > >
> > > Thanks all!

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
[e-mail]