9-1-13 Marketing meeting minutes

[Chris A. Roberts]

Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi....
16:07:05 Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi....
16:07:06 Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi....
16:07:06
Chris Robertshttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrisroberts

[Marcel Ribeiro Dantas]

Sorry guys.

I had some connection issues and my client seemed to not have disconnected,
but it did. I only noticed time had gone by when I saw Chris' e-mail.

Even though the meeting is during my work time, it's still possible to
participate though not so actively as I wish I could.
I will try to attend the next meetings,

Best regards,
mribeirodantas


2013/9/2 Chris Roberts <croberts(a)cintrixhosting.com&gt;

>  Minutes:
>
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
>  16:07:05
>
>  Minutes (text):
>
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
>  16:07:06
>
>  Log:
>
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
>  16:07:06
>
>  Chris Roberts
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrisroberts
>
>
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>  


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Biomedical Engineering Researcher at LAIS
Laboratory for Technological Innovation in Healthcare (LAIS-HUOL)

http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org
mribeirodantas at fedoraproject.org
mribeirodantas at lais.huol.ufrn.br

GNU/Linux User nro. #440985

[María Leandro]

Hey!

I had to buy a new kitchen... so I miss the meeting. Mitzie, feel free to
open a design ticket for the icon and assign it to me.

See ya!


2013/9/2 Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  Sorry guys.
>
>  I had some connection issues and my client seemed to not have
>  disconnected, but it did. I only noticed time had gone by when I saw Chris'
>  e-mail.
>
>  Even though the meeting is during my work time, it's still possible to
>  participate though not so actively as I wish I could.
>  I will try to attend the next meetings,
>
>  Best regards,
>  mribeirodantas
>
>
>  2013/9/2 Chris Roberts <croberts(a)cintrixhosting.com&gt;
>
> > Minutes:
> >
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
> > 16:07:05
> >
> > Minutes (text):
> >
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
> > 16:07:06
> >
> > Log:
> >
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
> > 16:07:06
> >
> > Chris Roberts
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrisroberts
> >
> >
> > --
> > marketing mailing list
> > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> >
>
>
>
>  --
>  Marcel Ribeiro Dantas,
>  Biomedical Engineering Researcher at LAIS
>  Laboratory for Technological Innovation in Healthcare (LAIS-HUOL)
>
>  http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org
>  mribeirodantas at fedoraproject.org
>  mribeirodantas at lais.huol.ufrn.br
>
>  GNU/Linux User nro. #440985
>
>  --
>  marketing mailing list
>  marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>  


-- 
tatica
Maria Gracia Leandro
http://www.tatica.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:tatica
LinuxUser= 440285  GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56

[Zacharias Mitzelos]

On 9/2/2013 11:34 PM, María Leandro wrote:
>  Hey!
>
>  I had to buy a new kitchen... so I miss the meeting. Mitzie, feel free 
>  to open a design ticket for the icon and assign it to me.
>
>  See ya!
>
>
>  2013/9/2 Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>
>      Sorry guys.
>
>      I had some connection issues and my client seemed to not have
>      disconnected, but it did. I only noticed time had gone by when I
>      saw Chris' e-mail.
>
>      Even though the meeting is during my work time, it's still
>      possible to participate though not so actively as I wish I could.
>      I will try to attend the next meetings,
>
>      Best regards,
>      mribeirodantas
>
>
>      2013/9/2 Chris Roberts <croberts(a)cintrixhosting.com
>      <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>
>          Minutes:
>         
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi....
>         
> <http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
>
>          16:07:05
>          Minutes (text):
>         
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi....
>         
> <http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
>
>          16:07:06
>          Log:
>         
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi....
>         
> <http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
>
>          16:07:06
>
>          Chris Roberts
>          https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrisroberts
>
>
>          --
>          marketing mailing list
>          marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>          <mailto:[e-mail]>
>          https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>
>
>
>
>      -- 
>      Marcel Ribeiro Dantas,
>      Biomedical Engineering Researcher at LAIS
>      Laboratory for Technological Innovation in Healthcare (LAIS-HUOL)
>
>      http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org
>      mribeirodantas at fedoraproject.org <http://fedoraproject.org>
>      mribeirodantas at lais.huol.ufrn.br <http://lais.huol.ufrn.br>
>
>      GNU/Linux User nro. #440985
>
>      --
>      marketing mailing list
>      marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>      <mailto:[e-mail]>
>      https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>
>
>
>
>  -- 
>  tatica
>  Maria Gracia Leandro
>  http://www.tatica.org <http://www.tatica.org/>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:tatica
>  LinuxUser= 440285  GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56
>
>  
Hey tatica,

Great! Although Chris assigned the action to himself, I will let him know ;)

Also because you didn't came to the meeting, I would like to ask you 
what is the progress on the new menu on the magazine? Because it is a 
very nice idea, and I could help you if you like ;)

Zacharias Mitzelos

[María Leandro]

Hey!

To be honest i haven't work on that yet, (weekend, bday and mini honeymoon)
i will be reachable tomorrow all day on IRC, so scream over there and give
me a hand to finish that organization :D

Thank you for the reminder :)


2013/9/2 Zacharias Mitzelos <zacharias.mitzelos(a)gmail.com&gt;

>   On 9/2/2013 11:34 PM, María Leandro wrote:
>
>  Hey!
>
>   I had to buy a new kitchen... so I miss the meeting. Mitzie, feel free
>  to open a design ticket for the icon and assign it to me.
>
>   See ya!
>
>
>  2013/9/2 Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com&gt;
>
> >  Sorry guys.
> >
> > I had some connection issues and my client seemed to not have
> > disconnected, but it did. I only noticed time had gone by when I saw Chris'
> > e-mail.
> >
> >  Even though the meeting is during my work time, it's still possible to
> > participate though not so actively as I wish I could.
> > I will try to attend the next meetings,
> >
> > Best regards,
> >  mribeirodantas
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/2 Chris Roberts <croberts(a)cintrixhosting.com&gt;
> >
> >>   Minutes:
> >>
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
> >>  16:07:05
> >>
> >> Minutes (text):
> >>
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
> >>  16:07:06
> >>
> >> Log:
> >>
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi...
> >>  16:07:06
> >>
> >>  Chris Roberts
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrisroberts
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >> marketing mailing list
> >> marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marcel Ribeiro Dantas,
> > Biomedical Engineering Researcher at LAIS
> > Laboratory for Technological Innovation in Healthcare (LAIS-HUOL)
> >
> >  http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org
> >  mribeirodantas at fedoraproject.org
> > mribeirodantas at lais.huol.ufrn.br
> >
> > GNU/Linux User nro. #440985
> >
> > --
> > marketing mailing list
> > marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> >
>
>
>
>   --
>  tatica
>  Maria Gracia Leandro
>  http://www.tatica.org
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:tatica
>  LinuxUser= 440285  GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56
>
>
>   Hey tatica,
>
>  Great! Although Chris assigned the action to himself, I will let him know
>  ;)
>
>  Also because you didn't came to the meeting, I would like to ask you what
>  is the progress on the new menu on the magazine? Because it is a very nice
>  idea, and I could help you if you like ;)
>
>  Zacharias Mitzelos
>
>  --
>  marketing mailing list
>  marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>  


-- 
tatica
Maria Gracia Leandro
http://www.tatica.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:tatica
LinuxUser= 440285  GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56

[Ankur Sinha]

Hi,

On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 16:09 -0400, Chris Roberts wrote:
>  Minutes (text):
>
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-09-02/fedora_marketi....
>
>  16:07:06 

>  Action Items
>  ------------
>  * mitxie croberts write an email to the announce list to attract more
>    contributors
>  * mitzie croberts write an email to the announce list to attract more
>    contributors
>  * have design create a magazine icon, after its created, add the
>    magazine project to the bottom of the wiki
>  * mitzie open a ticket on the fedocal
>   
I'm probably not going to be able to attend any meetings, being down
under here in Sydney. Would it be possible to begin re-using the trac
for the action items from meetings? I see a few benefits:

1. Folks that miss IRC meetings can see what tasks are being done and
where they can help out, and who to get in touch with

2. Since you're looking to improve recruitment, it'll be nice to have a
single list of tasks that folks can get started with, as opposed to them
mailing the list and trying to find out what they can do. The tickets
can also be marked as "easyFix" so they show up in the fedora easyfix
task list[1]. (We just need to ask infra to begin scraping from the
marketing trac. I could do that.)

3. Milestones can be added on the trac: we missed out on marketing
collateral last release because I woke up too late to realize no one was
working on them. Using milestones, each task can be tracked. For
instance, we could sync the marketing collateral task with desing and
doc teams and work accordingly. 

4. It might be possible to give folks badges for submitting articles if
these submissions are done via the trac. I don't think this can be done
if we have a mailing list for submissions. The badges seem like a great
idea to encourage folks to contribute.

One issue that I see is extra work:

- Someone has to create the tickets 

I think the extra work will be worth it in the long run though. 

---
The documentation project already does quite a few beats[2] for the
release notes. In the past, these beats were used to make marketing
collateral[3] for each release: pamphlets, flyers etc. May be it'll be a
good idea to keep up with the docs team since they spend quite a lot of
time tracking features for each release and could be a good source of
quite a few articles (maybe a "this release in Fedora series" kind of a
thing)?

FAmSCo approved the addition of "add your event to fedocal!" to the "how
to organize a fedora event" wiki page[4]. I already did send a mail out
the the ambassadors list regarding this. I'll keep an eye on events in
APAC and ensure that it's done here. I'll request ambassadors from other
regions to do the same.

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats?rd=Docs/Beats
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral
[4] https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/351
-- 
Thanks,
Warm regards,
Ankur (FranciscoD)

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

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[nitesh narayan lal]

Hi,
Agreeing with Ankur's point, it would be great if Milestones could be
added on the trac.
As that way they could be easily followed even for the folks like us
who usually miss the meetings.

-- 
Regards
Nitesh Narayan Lal

[Chris A. Roberts]

Hi Ankur,

1. Folks that miss IRC meetings can see what tasks are being done and
where they can help out, and who to get in touch with 

           I agree with this, I will start putting action items in the Trac. Me and JZB
were talking in IRC and found some other good uses for Trac, including using it for the
magazine when an account needs created. JZB and me have went through and closed a lot of
the old outdated tickets already, so it is ready for new ones to be made :)

2. Since you're looking to improve recruitment, it'll be nice to have a
single list of tasks that folks can get started with, as opposed to them
mailing the list and trying to find out what they can do. The tickets
can also be marked as "easyFix" so they show up in the fedora easyfix
task list[1]. (We just need to ask infra to begin scraping from the
marketing trac. I could do that.)

           That would be awesome if you could get that setup, especially since I foresee
the marketing trac getting used more in the future :) That will be your #action item :)

3. Milestones can be added on the trac: we missed out on marketing
collateral last release because I woke up too late to realize no one was
working on them. Using milestones, each task can be tracked. For
instance, we could sync the marketing collateral task with design and
doc teams and work accordingly. 

This is a good idea as well, another good reason to use Trac :) 

4. It might be possible to give folks badges for submitting articles if
these submissions are done via the trac. I don't think this can be done
if we have a mailing list for submissions. The badges seem like a great
idea to encourage folks to contribute.

       This was brought up in the last meeting, Suehle was going to file a ticket in the
badges trac, to see about getting badges setup for the magazine. I think its a good idea
and a good way to welcome contributors. 

- Chris Roberts

[Ankur Sinha]

On Tue, 2013-09-03 at 01:27 -0400, Chris Roberts wrote:
>  Hi Ankur, 
Hi!

>  
>  1. Folks that miss IRC meetings can see what tasks are being done and
>  where they can help out, and who to get in touch with 
>  
>             I agree with this, I will start putting action items in the
>  Trac. Me and JZB were talking in IRC and found some other good uses
>  for Trac, including using it for the magazine when an account needs
>  created. JZB and me have went through and closed a lot of the old
>  outdated tickets already, so it is ready for new ones to be made :) 
The milestones and categories etc also need to be updated in the trac.
They still refer to Fedora 14 :P

>  
>  2. Since you're looking to improve recruitment, it'll be nice to have
>  a
>  single list of tasks that folks can get started with, as opposed to
>  them
>  mailing the list and trying to find out what they can do. The tickets
>  can also be marked as "easyFix" so they show up in the fedora easyfix
>  task list[1]. (We just need to ask infra to begin scraping from the
>  marketing trac. I could do that.)
>  
>             That would be awesome if you could get that setup,
>  especially since I foresee the marketing trac getting used more in the
>  future :) That will be your #action item :) 

https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/131#comment:2


Pingou pointed out that infra doesn't need to do anything. The trac
admins need to follow the steps listed here to enable it:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Easyfix


>  3. Milestones can be added on the trac: we missed out on marketing
>  collateral last release because I woke up too late to realize no one
>  was
>  working on them. Using milestones, each task can be tracked. For
>  instance, we could sync the marketing collateral task with design and
>  doc teams and work accordingly. 
>  
>  This is a good idea as well, another good reason to use Trac :)  
Like I said above. The milestones and components etc need to be updated
in the trac before we can start using it for these purposes :)

>  
>  4. It might be possible to give folks badges for submitting articles
>  if
>  these submissions are done via the trac. I don't think this can be
>  done
>  if we have a mailing list for submissions. The badges seem like a
>  great
>  idea to encourage folks to contribute.
>  
>         This was brought up in the last meeting, Suehle was going to
>  file a ticket in the badges trac, to see about getting badges setup
>  for the magazine. I think its a good idea and a good way to welcome
>  contributors.  
I noticed that the marketing trac does not seem to have fedmsg
integration either. You can't really have badges without fedmsg
integration as far as I know. Another ticket filed:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3970

Hopefully we'll have fedmsg working for us in a few days. We can then
file tickets for marketing badges too.
-- 
Thanks,
Warm regards,
Ankur (FranciscoD)

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