FEDORA MASCOT

[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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Hi Guys!!


The Fedora Project need a mascot.

What do you think about this ?

ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
www.projetofedora.org

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[nihed mbarek]

Hi,
I think that is good
But you must change the color of the bar in the bottom.
and for for the mascot, do you have a idea ??
it will be a animal like other open source product ?  ??

thank you

2007/3/18, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org&gt;:
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>
>  What do you think about this ?
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[Francesco Ugolini]

I prefer an animal :)

Francesco Ugolini

Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  Hi Guys!!
>  
>  
>  The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  
>  What do you think about this ?
>  
>  ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  www.projetofedora.org
>   
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[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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+1

An animal is a very good idea!!

A modified tux or another animal ??


Animals in use:

 elephant = PostgreSQL
 dolphin = MySQL
 camaleon = Suse
 Gnu = Gnu Project
 Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh
 Penguin = Linux
 Dino = Mozilla
 fox = Firefox
 bird = Firebird, Thunderbird


We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot.

ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera


Francesco Ugolini escreveu:
>  I prefer an animal :)
>  
>  Francesco Ugolini
>  
>  Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> > Hi Guys!!
> >
> >
> > The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >
> > What do you think about this ?
> >
> > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> > www.projetofedora.org
> >
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[Siddharth Upmanyu]

How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat

Regards
Siddharth


On 3/18/07, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira <rodrigopadula(a)projetofedora.org&gt;
wrote:
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>
>  An animal is a very good idea!!
>
>  A modified tux or another animal ??
>
>
>  Animals in use:
>
>  elephant = PostgreSQL
>  dolphin = MySQL
>  camaleon = Suse
>  Gnu = Gnu Project
>  Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh
>  Penguin = Linux
>  Dino = Mozilla
>  fox = Firefox
>  bird = Firebird, Thunderbird
>
>
>  We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot.
>
>  ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera
>
>
>  Francesco Ugolini escreveu:
>  > I prefer an animal :)
>  >
>  > Francesco Ugolini
>  >
>  > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  >> Hi Guys!!
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  >>
>  >> What do you think about this ?
>  >>
>  >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  >> www.projetofedora.org
>  >>
>  >
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[Nicu Buculei]

Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
>  
>  How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat 
Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that.
Sure, if we select a cute animal and users are free to make 
modifications of it, probably some of them will add hats on their own 
(nudge, nudge, wink, wink)

And about a Tux - I think we want something more personal, Tux with a 
small emblem look too much like 10 years ago...

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[nihed mbarek]

I dislike the idea of Tux.
I think that new mascot will be best then other modification of tux.
We can propose to fedora artwork to make some examples then choose the best
:)

2007/3/19, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt;:
>  Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
>  >
>  > How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat
>
>  Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that.
>  Sure, if we select a cute animal and users are free to make
>  modifications of it, probably some of them will add hats on their own
>  (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
>
>  And about a Tux - I think we want something more personal, Tux with a
>  small emblem look too much like 10 years ago...
>
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[hymno]

Agreed, no Penguin please.
Fedora is more than Linux.
The mascot I personally like most is OpenBSD's blowfish.
But I don' t think anyone can come up with something great for Fedora on
command.
These things happen spontaneously.

If one really needs a mascot animal..
let's see.. no hats allowed, no penguin (too dull)..
How about a cool icebear with sunglasses and a baseball cap?

herman


2007/3/19, nihed mbarek <nihedmm(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  I dislike the idea of Tux.
>  I think that new mascot will be best then other modification of tux.
>  We can propose to fedora artwork to make some examples then choose the
>  best :)
>
>  2007/3/19, Nicu Buculei < nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt;:
>  >
>  > Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
>  > >
>  > > How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat
>  >
>  > Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that.
>  > Sure, if we select a cute animal and users are free to make
>  > modifications of it, probably some of them will add hats on their own
>  > (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
>  >
>  > And about a Tux - I think we want something more personal, Tux with a
>  > small emblem look too much like 10 years ago...
>  >
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[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

Nicu Buculei escribió:
>  Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything
> about that.  
Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? I mean, Fedora is named *after* a hat, 
"losing the hat" is like losing the identity (or rendering the word 
meaningless, hence the quest for a new identity, found in the 
Speech+Infinite+Freedom Fedora logo we now have), I suppose the "no Hats 
allowed" rule comes straight from Red Hat and "marketing confusion/brand 
recognition" if a hat was used by Fedora (not to say the perpetuation of 
the stigma that Fedora is Red Hat's playground)... Just found this fact 
to be kind of... contradictory. Alas a name change at this point (about 
the 7th release) is [completely] out of the question.

[Paul Stauffer]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 12:39:29AM -0600, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
>  Nicu Buculei escribió:
>  >Using a hat is absolutely forbidden and we can't do anything about that. 
>  
>  Isn't that kind of an oxymoron? I mean, Fedora is named *after* a hat,  
Maybe, but that's the way it is going to be.

Please refer to the list archives (previously linked to) for an *extensive*
discussion of this.  I don't think we need to discuss it again, since
nothing has changed.

>  Speech+Infinite+Freedom Fedora logo we now have), I suppose the
> "no Hats 
>  allowed" rule comes straight from Red Hat and "marketing confusion/brand 
>  recognition" if a hat was used by Fedora (not to say the perpetuation of  
Correct.  Blame US trademark law, and the follies of human perception.

- Paul

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[Gerold]

Am Montag, den 19.03.2007, 12:34 +0530 schrieb Siddharth Upmanyu:
>  
>  How about Tux wearing Fedora Hat
>   
^^
There exists no "Fedora Hat" in our Project, doesn't it ... ?

Regards

Gerold

[Gerold]

we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...

as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ...

the LION!

all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora Project" :-)

powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also majestic!

Just my five cents

Gerold



Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula de
Oliveira:
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>  +1
>  
>  An animal is a very good idea!!
>  
>  A modified tux or another animal ??
>  
>  
>  Animals in use:
>  
>   elephant = PostgreSQL
>   dolphin = MySQL
>   camaleon = Suse
>   Gnu = Gnu Project
>   Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh
>   Penguin = Linux
>   Dino = Mozilla
>   fox = Firefox
>   bird = Firebird, Thunderbird
>  
>  
>  We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot.
>  
>  ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera
>  
>  
>  Francesco Ugolini escreveu:
>  > I prefer an animal :)
>  > 
>  > Francesco Ugolini
>  > 
>  > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  >> Hi Guys!!
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  >>
>  >> What do you think about this ?
>  >>
>  >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  >> www.projetofedora.org
>  >>
>  > 
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[hymno]

Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 09:38 +0100, schreef Gerold Kassube:
>  we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...
>  
>  as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ... 
Well, nothing wrong with ambitions. 

>  the LION! 
See the Pardus logo, I like that. I think it's not a lion though.

>  all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora
> Project" :-)
>  
>  powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also majestic! 
And lazy, arrogant, letting the women do all the work, and killing a
female's existing offspring to seduce her into mating? ;)

>  Just my five cents
>  
>  Gerold 
You can have mine too. ;)

>  
>  Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula de
>  Oliveira:
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>  > +1
>  > 
>  > An animal is a very good idea!!
>  > 
>  > A modified tux or another animal ??
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Animals in use:
>  > 
>  >  elephant = PostgreSQL
>  >  dolphin = MySQL
>  >  camaleon = Suse
>  >  Gnu = Gnu Project
>  >  Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh
>  >  Penguin = Linux
>  >  Dino = Mozilla
>  >  fox = Firefox
>  >  bird = Firebird, Thunderbird
>  > 
>  > 
>  > We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot.
>  > 
>  > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Francesco Ugolini escreveu:
>  > > I prefer an animal :)
>  > > 
>  > > Francesco Ugolini
>  > > 
>  > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  > >> Hi Guys!!
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  > >>
>  > >> What do you think about this ?
>  > >>
>  > >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  > >> www.projetofedora.org
>  > >>
>  > > 
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[nihed mbarek]

+1 LION

2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org&gt;:
>  we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...
>
>  as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ...
>
>  the LION!
>
>  all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora Project" :-)
>
>  powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also majestic!
>
>  Just my five cents
>
>  Gerold
>
>
>
>  Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula de
>  Oliveira:
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>  >
>  > +1
>  >
>  > An animal is a very good idea!!
>  >
>  > A modified tux or another animal ??
>  >
>  >
>  > Animals in use:
>  >
>  >  elephant = PostgreSQL
>  >  dolphin = MySQL
>  >  camaleon = Suse
>  >  Gnu = Gnu Project
>  >  Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh
>  >  Penguin = Linux
>  >  Dino = Mozilla
>  >  fox = Firefox
>  >  bird = Firebird, Thunderbird
>  >
>  >
>  > We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot.
>  >
>  > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera
>  >
>  >
>  > Francesco Ugolini escreveu:
>  > > I prefer an animal :)
>  > >
>  > > Francesco Ugolini
>  > >
>  > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  > >> Hi Guys!!
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  > >>
>  > >> What do you think about this ?
>  > >>
>  > >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  > >> www.projetofedora.org
>  > >>
>  > >
>  >
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[Naoki]

No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most
courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat :
http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html


Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known
relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) :
http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html




On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote:
>  +1 LION
>  
>  2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org&gt;:
>          we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...
>          
>          as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ...
>          
>          the LION!
>          
>          all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora
>          Project" :-) 
>          
>          powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also
>          majestic!
>          
>          Just my five cents
>          
>          Gerold
>          
>          
>          
>          Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula
>          de
>          Oliveira:
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>          > +1
>          >
>          > An animal is a very good idea!!
>          >
>          > A modified tux or another animal ?? 
>

[hymno]

That goat is very cool.
Let's take it!

Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 17:52 +0900, schreef Naoki:
>  No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most
>  courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat :
>  http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html
>  
>  
>  Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known
>  relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) :
>  http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote:
>  > +1 LION
>  > 
>  > 2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org&gt;:
>  >         we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...
>  >         
>  >         as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ...
>  >         
>  >         the LION!
>  >         
>  >         all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora
>  >         Project" :-) 
>  >         
>  >         powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also
>  >         majestic!
>  >         
>  >         Just my five cents
>  >         
>  >         Gerold
>  >         
>  >         
>  >         
>  >         Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula
>  >         de
>  >         Oliveira:
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>  >         >
>  >         > +1
>  >         >
>  >         > An animal is a very good idea!!
>  >         >
>  >         > A modified tux or another animal ??
>  
>  > 
>

[Naoki]

I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?


On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 00:48 +0100, hymno3 wrote:
>  That goat is very cool.
>  Let's take it!
>  
>  Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 17:52 +0900, schreef Naoki:
>  > No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most
>  > courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat :
>  > http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html

[Nicu Buculei]

Naoki wrote:
>  I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? 
Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but 
instead *if* a mascot will be used or not.

For reference go back to 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html 
and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and 
ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any 
constructive comments"

There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we 
will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very 
enthusiastically on a new initiative.

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[nihed mbarek]

+1
for a mascot

2007/3/19, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt;:
>  Naoki wrote:
>  > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?
>
>  Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but
>  instead *if* a mascot will be used or not.
>
>  For reference go back to
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html
>  and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and
>  ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any
>  constructive comments"
>
>  There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we
>  will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very
>  enthusiastically on a new initiative.
>
>  --
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>  Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
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[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 10:29 +0100, nihed mbarek escribió:
>  +1
>  for a mascot  
+1 (goat)
>  
>  2007/3/19, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt;:
>          Naoki wrote:
>          > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?
>          
>          Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should
>          be, but
>          instead *if* a mascot will be used or not.
>          
>          For reference go back to 
>          http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html
>          and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag
>          idea" and 
>          ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have
>          any
>          constructive comments"
>          
>          There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide
>          first if we
>          will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to
>          start very 
>          enthusiastically on a new initiative.
>          
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>  
>  
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[Nicu Buculei]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  
>  For reference go back to 
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html 
>  and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and 
>  ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any 
>  constructive comments" 
The thread was so huge, it continued in the next month:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-July/thread.html

And yet one more month later we talked even concrete images (dogs, 
chemical elements. etc.): 
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-August/thread.html

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[Gerold]

+2

to Nicos reply ...



Am Montag, den 19.03.2007, 11:23 +0200 schrieb Nicu Buculei:
>  Naoki wrote:
>  > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?
>  
>  Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but 
>  instead *if* a mascot will be used or not.
>  
>  For reference go back to 
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html 
>  and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and 
>  ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any 
>  constructive comments"
>  
>  There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we 
>  will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very 
>  enthusiastically on a new initiative.
>  
>  -- 
>  nicu
>  Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
>  Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
>  my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro

[Naoki]

On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 11:23 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  Naoki wrote:
>  > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?
>  
>  Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but 
>  instead *if* a mascot will be used or not.
>  
>  For reference go back to 
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html 
>  and read the huge thread starting with "Cool Fedora schwag idea" and 
>  ending in "Logos: everybody wants one but nobody seems to have any 
>  constructive comments"
>  
>  There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first if we 
>  will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very 
>  enthusiastically on a new initiative. 
Opps sorry, got into the thread waay too late it seems. In my defence
though a vote for a goat is a vote of a mascot (which could be the
slogan for the "Goat for FC mascot" campaign..)

A logo is a must, and we have a good one already.. A mascot is nice,
people like mascots, but there are arguments against having one, such as
they are cheesy, or gimmicky.

Here are some arguments against a masocot made on meta wiki
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_mascot#No_mascot.2C_please.21) :

"Mascots have an inherent playfulness in them that is fine for most
projects, but dangerous ground for an encylcopedia" - In this case an
OS..

"mascot serves no purpose/an animal popular or recognizable in one
culture may be tabboo, feared or unrecognized in another." - True.


But the vastly overwhelming response is people do want a mascot, which
is fine, but does it actually help the project, or the marketing of that
project. No. It does not. It doesn't help the project, and the marketing
should be about evangelising the technical merits, or the benefits of
open source.

There is one place a mascot helps though, and that is mind-share, it
gives people something a little tangible to associate with. 

So at the very least we need an un-official mascot so that our local
Zoos can nick-name a goat "Fedora", and techs can have something on the
back of their T-shirts for proud display (snarling horned goat staring
you down and so on).

It will also give FC loving sites a plush toy to sell for revenue.

[Nicu Buculei]

Naoki wrote:
>  
>  But the vastly overwhelming response is people do want a mascot, which
>  is fine, but does it actually help the project, or the marketing of that
>  project. No. It does not. It doesn't help the project, and the marketing
>  should be about evangelising the technical merits, or the benefits of
>  open source. 
My personal point of view based on my experience in the Art Team: a 
mascot could allow us to create a lot of unofficial graphics which a lot 
of users may love and use.
Yes, any of us can do cute graphics using his own imagery and publish 
them in his own channels (and some already do that), but having a mascot 
agreed by everyone could allow a concerted effort and higher visibility.

>  There is one place a mascot helps though, and that is mind-share, it
>  gives people something a little tangible to associate with. 
>  
>  It will also give FC loving sites a plush toy to sell for revenue. 
also T-shirts, mouse pads, stickers, calendars

-- 
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Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Lun 19 mars 2007 10:23, Nicu Buculei a écrit :

>  There a lot of ways to get a cool mascot, but let's decide first
> if we
>  will have one or not, we got already a lot of cold showers to start very
>  enthusiastically on a new initiative. 
IMHO a mascot is a good way to attract new users and break our techie-only
image. I won't comment on the timing and cold showers part.

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

[Christopher Aillon]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  Naoki wrote:
> > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?
>
>  Please, *focus*. Do not vote on what animal the mascot should be, but 
>  instead *if* a mascot will be used or not.
>  
Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote.  We can set up polls if 
need be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems 
unfair to all the contributors and users we have who may not be 
subscribed here who might have a say in the mascot of the community project.

[Greg DeKoenigsberg]

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon wrote:

>  Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote.  We can set up polls
> if need 
>  be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems unfair to 
>  all the contributors and users we have who may not be subscribed here who 
>  might have a say in the mascot of the community project. 
Voting... meh.

Vote by doing something.  If you like a particular mascot, send it to 
everyone you know.

If we end up with an "official" mascot that The Proletariat Voted Upon For 
The Good Of The Community, I don't know that we're any better off.

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[hymno]

Op wo, 21-03-2007 te 12:56 -0400, schreef Greg Dekoenigsberg:
>  On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon wrote:
>  
>  > Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote.  We can set up polls if need 
>  > be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems unfair to 
>  > all the contributors and users we have who may not be subscribed here who 
>  > might have a say in the mascot of the community project.
>  
>  Voting... meh.
>  
>  Vote by doing something.  If you like a particular mascot, send it to 
>  everyone you know.
>  
>  If we end up with an "official" mascot that The Proletariat Voted Upon For 
>  The Good Of The Community, I don't know that we're any better off.
>  
>  --g 
+1.

[Tejas Dinkar]

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon sent out 0.6K bytes to say:
>  Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote.  We can set up polls
> if 
>  need be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems 
>  unfair to all the contributors and users we have who may not be 
>  subscribed here who might have a say in the mascot of the community project. 
What gave you the impression there was a vote going on here?
-- 
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http://gja.in

[Christopher Aillon]

Tejas Dinkar wrote:
>  On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Christopher Aillon sent out 0.6K bytes to say:
> > Additionally, this is the wrong forum to vote.  We can set up polls if 
> > need be on fp.o, etc. but restricting the vote to only this list seems 
> > unfair to all the contributors and users we have who may not be 
> > subscribed here who might have a say in the mascot of the community project.
>  
>  What gave you the impression there was a vote going on here? 
Did you read the mails I quoted?  Counting the number of people who 
agree with a given point is a vote or poll.  Whether it was sanctioned 
is not relevant to the fact that at least one person was collecting 
votes for a given proposal.

[Tejas Dinkar]

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Naoki sent out 0.5K bytes to say:
>  I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids? 
A Goat stands for LiveJournal, which is a FOSS project, and a well
recognised logo anyway.

How about a plant?
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http://gja.in

[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 05:29 -0700, Tejas Dinkar escribió:
>  On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Naoki sent out 0.5K bytes to say:
>  > I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?
>  
>  A Goat stands for LiveJournal, which is a FOSS project, and a well
>  recognised logo anyway.
>   
May be a Condor (http://www.renalworld.com/photos/condor%20065.jpg), is
the most greater fly bird, 2m (6 feet) of wing.
>  How about a plant?
>  -- 
>  Tejas Dinkar
>  http://gja.in
>   
-- 
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Embajador Fedora - Chile
sip:[e-mail]

[Nicolas Antonio Corrarello]

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Loved the Condor, very free, very patagonia argentina,
Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
>  El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 05:29 -0700, Tejas Dinkar escribió:
> > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Naoki sent out 0.5K bytes to say:
> >> I've got two for the goat, do I hear any other bids?
> > A Goat stands for LiveJournal, which is a FOSS project, and a well
> > recognised logo anyway.
> >
>  May be a Condor (http://www.renalworld.com/photos/condor%20065.jpg), is
>  the most greater fly bird, 2m (6 feet) of wing.
> > How about a plant?
> > -- 
> > Tejas Dinkar
> > http://gja.in
> > 
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[nihed mbarek]

Why not a cat ? ?
familial animal
and beautiful :)

2007/3/19, Naoki <naoki(a)valuecommerce.com&gt;:
>  No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most
>  courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat :
>  http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html
>
>
>  Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known
>  relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) :
>  http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html
>
>
>
>
>  On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote:
>  > +1 LION
>  >
>  > 2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org&gt;:
>  >         we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...
>  >
>  >         as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ...
>  >
>  >         the LION!
>  >
>  >         all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora
>  >         Project" :-)
>  >
>  >         powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also
>  >         majestic!
>  >
>  >         Just my five cents
>  >
>  >         Gerold
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >         Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula
>  >         de
>  >         Oliveira:
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>  >         >
>  >         > +1
>  >         >
>  >         > An animal is a very good idea!!
>  >         >
>  >         > A modified tux or another animal ??
>
>  >
>
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[Naoki]

On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 10:04 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote:
>  Why not a cat ? ? 
>  familial animal 
>  and beautiful :) 
Because cats are evil.


Honestly though, how about :

* The dolphin?  Everybody loves them, and they are social, intelligent,
and tasty.
* The tortoise, a wonder of evolution.

Or my favourite option...

* Platypus - The greatest animal on the planet, built up from many small
strange parts you can find elsewhere in nature. The most bizarre animal
around, and at the same time perfectly suited to the environment in
which it lives.

[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

Naoki escribió:
>  Or my favourite option...
>
>  * Platypus - The greatest animal on the planet, built up from many small
>  strange parts you can find elsewhere in nature. The most bizarre animal
>  around, and at the same time perfectly suited to the environment in
>  which it lives. 
Already taken, it's the mascot for Darwin, the actual OS of MacOS X 
(MacOS X without Quartz and Aqua)
I'd be all for a Lion or a Tiger (my favorite big cats)

[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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Gian Paolo Mureddu escreveu:
>  Naoki escribió:
> > Or my favourite option...
> >
> > * Platypus - The greatest animal on the planet, built up from many small
> > strange parts you can find elsewhere in nature. The most bizarre animal
> > around, and at the same time perfectly suited to the environment in
> > which it lives.
>  
>  Already taken, it's the mascot for Darwin, the actual OS of MacOS X
>  (MacOS X without Quartz and Aqua)
>  I'd be all for a Lion or a Tiger (my favorite big cats)
>   
White Tiger is very beautiful and Blue Arara (Parrot)  is a good idea...
Fedora is BLUE.

A blue animal is the best way!
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[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

The goat is nice, is a 4x4 animal, for all conditions.

Puppylinux use puppy as mascot
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 17:52 +0900, Naoki escribió:
>  No no no.. Quite obviously the mascot should either be the most
>  courageous and noble of all beasts, the goat :
>  http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/g-goat.html
>  
>  
>  Or the most viscous and savage of all dogs, one of the 14 closest known
>  relatives to the original wolf, the Shih Tzu (grrr!) :
>  http://www.poopypuppies.com/breeds/shih-tzu-puppies.html
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 09:48 +0100, nihed mbarek wrote:
>  > +1 LION
>  > 
>  > 2007/3/19, Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org&gt;:
>  >         we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...
>  >         
>  >         as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ...
>  >         
>  >         the LION!
>  >         
>  >         all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora
>  >         Project" :-) 
>  >         
>  >         powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also
>  >         majestic!
>  >         
>  >         Just my five cents
>  >         
>  >         Gerold
>  >         
>  >         
>  >         
>  >         Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula
>  >         de
>  >         Oliveira:
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>  >         >
>  >         > +1
>  >         >
>  >         > An animal is a very good idea!!
>  >         >
>  >         > A modified tux or another animal ??
>  
>  > 
>   
-- 
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Embajador Fedora - Chile
sip:[e-mail]

[Johan Cwiklinski]

Gerold Kassube a écrit :
>  we should choose "the king" of the animals, ...
>
>  as our project should be in the "Distribution:World" ...
>
>  the LION!
>
>  all his attributes are also matching to the "Fedora Project" :-)
>
>  powerfull, charming, elegant and last but not least also majestic!
>
>  Just my five cents
>
>  Gerold
>
>
>
>  Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 04:07 -0300 schrieb Rodrigo Padula de
>  Oliveira:
>  +1
>
>  An animal is a very good idea!!
>
>  A modified tux or another animal ??
>
>
>  Animals in use:
>
>   elephant = PostgreSQL
>   dolphin = MySQL
>   camaleon = Suse
>   Gnu = Gnu Project
>   Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh
>   Penguin = Linux
>   Dino = Mozilla
>   fox = Firefox
>   bird = Firebird, Thunderbird
>
>
>  We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot.
>
>  ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera
>
>
>  Francesco Ugolini escreveu:
>  >>> I prefer an animal :)
>  >>>
>  >>> Francesco Ugolini
>  >>>
>  >>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  >>>> Hi Guys!!
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> What do you think about this ?
>  >>>>
>  >>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  >>>> www.projetofedora.org
>  >>>> 
Hello,

Are not Lions also lazy animals ? :-D

I think our mascot should also seem sympathic, as the Fedora community...

While I won't vote for a penguin, I think an animal is a very good idea :)

Regards,
Johan

R: FEDORA MASCOT

[Giuseppe Pignataro]

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Padula de Oliveira
Inviato: domenica 18 marzo 2007 8.07
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+1

An animal is a very good idea!!

A modified tux or another animal ??

I agree with the idea of the animal but no tux,no more tux please.....



Animals in use:

 elephant = PostgreSQL
 dolphin = MySQL
 camaleon = Suse
 Gnu = Gnu Project
 Fish = Bluefish, OpenSsh
 Penguin = Linux
 Dino = Mozilla
 fox = Firefox
 bird = Firebird, Thunderbird


We could launch a campaign in the Internet to choose the new Mascot.

+1

ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliviera


Francesco Ugolini escreveu:
>  I prefer an animal :)
>  
>  Francesco Ugolini
>  
>  Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> > Hi Guys!!
> >
> >
> > The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >
> > What do you think about this ?
> >
> > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> > www.projetofedora.org
> >
>   
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R: FEDORA MASCOT

[Francesco Ugolini]

I think the discussion is just closed (Alex underline that this
discussion was just closed). We can continue talking about dolphins,
horse etc... but we have just our point of reference, discuss just a
year ago.

I will work to create a wiki page with all marketing closed item, one of
this is Fedora Logo (that, at the end, represents our project, like BSD
logo, MySql etc...), in fact we chose the infinite logo as our own logo,
as other projects chose animal, symbol, signs etc...

Regards

Francesco Ugolini

>  Alex Maier wrote:
>  
>  I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here:
>  
>  <sarcasm weight="heavy;">
>  How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat?
>  </sarcasm>
>  
>  Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a
>  long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists
>  now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional
>  imagery that will end up diluting the whole image.
>  
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html  
Francesco Ugolini

[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
>  I prefer an animal :)
>  
>  Francesco Ugolini
>  
>  Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  > Hi Guys!!
>  > 
>  > 
>  > The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  > 
>  > What do you think about this ?
>  > 
>  > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  > www.projetofedora.org
>  > 
>  
>  -- 
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
>   
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[Nicolas Antonio Corrarello]

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+1... tux is too used ... loved the condor

Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
>  Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
>  El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
> > I prefer an animal :)
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
> >
> > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> >> Hi Guys!!
> >>
> >>
> >> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >>
> >> What do you think about this ?
> >>
> >> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> >> www.projetofedora.org
> >>
> > -- 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> > 
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[nihed mbarek]

but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)

2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello <ncorrare(a)redhat.com&gt;:
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>
>  Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
>  > Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
>  > El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
>  >> I prefer an animal :)
>  >>
>  >> Francesco Ugolini
>  >>
>  >> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  >>> Hi Guys!!
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  >>>
>  >>> What do you think about this ?
>  >>>
>  >>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  >>> www.projetofedora.org
>  >>>
>  >> --
>  >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
>  >>
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[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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But it's used in MySQL Project

nihed mbarek escreveu:
>  but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)
>  
>  2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello <ncorrare(a)redhat.com
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>>:
>  
>  +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor
>  
>  Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
> > Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
> > El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
> >> I prefer an animal :)
> >>
> >> Francesco Ugolini
> >>
> >> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> >>> Hi Guys!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >>>
> >>> What do you think about this ?
> >>>
> >>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> >>> www.projetofedora.org <http://www.projetofedora.org>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> >>
>   
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[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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My Sugestions:

Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg

White Tiger (Good Idea):
http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg

Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus):
http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif

White Shark (My favorite):
http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-sha...

Orca (Good idea):
http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif

Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg


BLUE ANIMALS

Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea):
http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot)

Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm

Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg



Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition


ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira


Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu:
>  But it's used in MySQL Project
>  
>  nihed mbarek escreveu:
> > but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)
>  
> > 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello <ncorrare(a)redhat.com
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>>:
>  
> > +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor
>  
> > Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
> >> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
> >> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
> >>> I prefer an animal :)
> >>>
> >>> Francesco Ugolini
> >>>
> >>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> >>>> Hi Guys!!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think about this ?
> >>>>
> >>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> >>>> www.projetofedora.org <http://www.projetofedora.org>
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> >>>
> >   
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[Nicolas Antonio Corrarello]

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Loved the blur arara
Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escribió:
>  My Sugestions:
>  
>  Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg
>  
>  White Tiger (Good Idea):
>  http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg
>  
>  Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus):
>  http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif
>  
>  White Shark (My favorite):
>  http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-sha...
>  
>  Orca (Good idea):
>  http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif
>  
>  Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg
>  
>  
>  BLUE ANIMALS
>  
>  Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea):
>  http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg
>  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot)
>  
>  Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm
>  
>  Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg
>  
>  
>  
>  Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition
>  
>  
>  ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  
>  
>  Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu:
> > But it's used in MySQL Project
>  
> > nihed mbarek escreveu:
> >> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)
> >> 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello <ncorrare(a)redhat.com
> >> <mailto:[e-mail]>>:
> >> +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor
> >> Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
> >>> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
> >>> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
> >>>> I prefer an animal :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Francesco Ugolini
> >>>>
> >>>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> >>>>> Hi Guys!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think about this ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> >>>>> www.projetofedora.org <http://www.projetofedora.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> > >>>> 
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[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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It's is very beautiful!

More pictures: http://www.caiman.com.br/caiman/img/ararazul_03.jpg

More information: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arara-azul-grande

Nicolas Antonio Corrarello escreveu:
>  Loved the blur arara
>  Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escribió:
> > My Sugestions:
>  
> > Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg
>  
> > White Tiger (Good Idea):
> > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg
>  
> > Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus):
> > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif
>  
> > White Shark (My favorite):
> > http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-sha...
>  
> > Orca (Good idea):
> > http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif
>  
> > Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg
>  
>  
> > BLUE ANIMALS
>  
> > Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea):
> > http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot)
>  
> > Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm
>  
> > Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg
>  
>  
>  
> > Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition
>  
>  
> > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  
>  
> > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu:
> >> But it's used in MySQL Project
> >> nihed mbarek escreveu:
> >>> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)
> >>> 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello <ncorrare(a)redhat.com
> >>> <mailto:[e-mail]>>:
> >>> +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor
> >>> Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
> >>>> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
> >>>> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
> >>>>> I prefer an animal :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Francesco Ugolini
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> >>>>>> Hi Guys!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What do you think about this ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> >>>>>> www.projetofedora.org <http://www.projetofedora.org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> > >>>>> 
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[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

Blue Arara parrot is cool!, but my preferences are:
1. Condor
2. Goat
3. Parrot Arara

 
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 13:24 -0300, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello
escribió:
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>  Loved the blur arara
>  Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escribió:
>  > My Sugestions:
>  > 
>  > Tiger: http://fohn.net/tiger-pictures-facts/tiger-regal_800x600.jpg
>  > 
>  > White Tiger (Good Idea):
>  > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/tigre_branco2.jpg
>  > 
>  > Soulth American Wolf(Chrysocyon brachyurus):
>  > http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/imagens/guara.gif
>  > 
>  > White Shark (My favorite):
>  > http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/animals/images/primary/great-white-sha...
>  > 
>  > Orca (Good idea):
>  > http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/images/orca-family-med.gif
>  > 
>  > Polar Bear: http://maxysoft.com/screens/animals/polar-bear-big.jpg
>  > 
>  > 
>  > BLUE ANIMALS
>  > 
>  > Blue Arara - Brazil (Good Idea):
>  > http://static.flickr.com/30/37318615_e47a3b5c9a.jpg
>  > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot)
>  > 
>  > Pavo cristatus: http://www.saudeanimal.com.br/pavao.htm
>  > 
>  > Blue Shark: http://www.elasmodiver.com/Sharkive%20images/Blue-shark-028.jpg
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Animal cognition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition
>  > 
>  > 
>  > ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira escreveu:
>  >> But it's used in MySQL Project
>  > 
>  >> nihed mbarek escreveu:
>  >>> but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)
>  >>> 2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello <ncorrare(a)redhat.com
>  >>> <mailto:[e-mail]>>:
>  >>> +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor
>  >>> Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
>  >>>> Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
>  >>>> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
>  >>>>> I prefer an animal :)
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Francesco Ugolini
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
>  >>>>>> Hi Guys!!
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> What do you think about this ?
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  >>>>>> www.projetofedora.org <http://www.projetofedora.org>
>  >>>>>>
>  >>>>> --
>  >>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
>  >>>>>
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[Nicolas Antonio Corrarello]

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Dolphin is MySQL logo,

Real artists ship

nihed mbarek escribió:
>  but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)
>  
>  2007/3/19, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello <ncorrare(a)redhat.com&gt;:
> >
>  +1... tux is too used ... loved the condor
>  
>  Eduardo Villagrán Morales escribió:
> > Yes a animal is good idea, no more mod tux.
> > El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 07:47 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribió:
> >> I prefer an animal :)
>  
> >> Francesco Ugolini
>  
> >> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> >>> Hi Guys!!
> >
> > > 
> >
> > >
> >>> The Fedora Project need a mascot.
> >
> > > 
> >>> What do you think about this ?
> >
> > > 
> >>> ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
> >>> www.projetofedora.org
> >
> > > 
> >> --
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
>  
>  
> > 
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[Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail]

flying symbolize freedom
+1 to condor .. flying high with freedom

perhaps not condor, other birds??

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[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
>  flying symbolize freedom
>  +1 to condor .. flying high with freedom
>  
>  perhaps not condor, other birds??
>   
How about an owl?

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen

[hymno]

Before the entire animal kingdom is passing by, does anyone have an idea
of the kind of procedures such ideas should be going through, with the
fedora art team and all? There's no democracy in designish/artistic
taste.

Before it is taken too seriously, let's contact a few artistic types to
see how they feel and what things they've been coming up with. I have
the feeling there are quite competent artists in the fedora art team.

Or else, post a few links with drawings, sketches, suggestions, people
have already made. Otherwise, it is getting quite meaningless.

herman


Op ma, 19-03-2007 te 16:44 +0100, schreef Jeroen van Meeuwen:
>  Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
>  > flying symbolize freedom
>  > +1 to condor .. flying high with freedom
>  > 
>  > perhaps not condor, other birds??
>  > 
>  
>  How about an owl?
>  
>  Kind regards,
>  
>  Jeroen van Meeuwen
>

[Nicu Buculei]

hymno3 wrote:
>  Before the entire animal kingdom is passing by, does anyone have an
> idea
>  of the kind of procedures such ideas should be going through, with the
>  fedora art team and all? There's no democracy in designish/artistic
>  taste. 
I just forwarded the subject to the Art Team along with a call to action.

>  Before it is taken too seriously, let's contact a few artistic
> types to
>  see how they feel and what things they've been coming up with. I have
>  the feeling there are quite competent artists in the fedora art team. 
And I think this project could be a very important jump start for the team.

>  Or else, post a few links with drawings, sketches, suggestions,
> people
>  have already made. Otherwise, it is getting quite meaningless. 
Please post such drawings to the Art list: 
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list

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[Alex]

How about a puppy?

[Nicu Buculei]

Alex Maier wrote:
>  How about a puppy? 
I remember the puppy idea was highly circulated in 2005 when we talked 
the last time about a mascot. And now with the god in the pup icon not 
uses in the distro anywhere, probably we can use that.

But, pretty please, can we talk implementation details on the Art list?

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[Alex]

On 3/19/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote:
>  Alex Maier wrote:
>  > How about a puppy?
>
>  I remember the puppy idea was highly circulated in 2005 when we talked
>  the last time about a mascot. And now with the god in the pup icon not
>  uses in the distro anywhere, probably we can use that.
>
>  But, pretty please, can we talk implementation details on the Art list? 
I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here:

<sarcasm weight="heavy;">
How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat?
</sarcasm>

Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a
long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists
now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional
imagery that will end up diluting the whole image.

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html

[Francesco Ugolini]

+1

Alex Maier ha scritto:
>  On 3/19/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote:
> > Alex Maier wrote:
> > > How about a puppy?
> >
> > I remember the puppy idea was highly circulated in 2005 when we talked
> > the last time about a mascot. And now with the god in the pup icon not
> > uses in the distro anywhere, probably we can use that.
> >
> > But, pretty please, can we talk implementation details on the Art list?
>  
>  I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here:
>  
>  <sarcasm weight="heavy;">
>  How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat?
>  </sarcasm>
>  
>  Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a
>  long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists
>  now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional
>  imagery that will end up diluting the whole image.
>  
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html
>   
-- 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini

[Greg DeKoenigsberg]

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Alex Maier wrote:

>  Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved
> a
>  long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists
>  now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional
>  imagery that will end up diluting the whole image.
>
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html 
/me shrugs.

If the Fedora community wants a mascot that they can use independently of 
the Fedora Logo -- which is Trademarked And Thus Unavailable For Free 
Usage -- I have no problem watching them try.

The official mark is clearly a settled question.  But the beauty of 
unofficial marks is just that; they are unofficial.

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[Naoki]

I'm still digging the goat because it's sort of like the Gnu
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildebeest).  

They live in almost any environment, in harsh conditions, they are
sturdy and reliable, eat anything, and have horns.

The best argument against so far was that it is already the mascot for
LiveJournal : http://www.livejournal.com/site/goat.bml

Wonder if we can share ;)

If not, the obviously the platypus is the best animal :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus

Go on, I dare you to show me a more mixed up mammal.

[Tom Callaway]

On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:16 +0900, Naoki wrote:
>  I'm still digging the goat because it's sort of like the Gnu
>  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildebeest).  
>  
>  They live in almost any environment, in harsh conditions, they are
>  sturdy and reliable, eat anything, and have horns.
>  
>  The best argument against so far was that it is already the mascot for
>  LiveJournal : http://www.livejournal.com/site/goat.bml 
Goats are rather well known in America for being trash eaters. They have
a propensity to go stiff-legged and faint whenever startled. Also, all
goats are infested with stomach worms.

I think the frog would be a much better mascot. They live in virtually
all parts of the world, come in many colorful varieties, are versatile
(they can live in the water and on land), and easily recognized.

Of course I'm biased here, but I think a frog would make an awesome
mascot. :)

~spot

[Greg DeKoenigsberg]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:

>  Goats are rather well known in America for being trash eaters. They
> have
>  a propensity to go stiff-legged and faint whenever startled. Also, all
>  goats are infested with stomach worms.
>
>  I think the frog would be a much better mascot. They live in virtually
>  all parts of the world, come in many colorful varieties, are versatile
>  (they can live in the water and on land), and easily recognized. 
I think that we're limiting ourselves unnecessarily to actual animals.

I propose munging some animals together to see what we get.  I'm a big fan 
of the Fedora bear-walrus myself.  Chester the Fedora Bear-Walrus.

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[Nicu Buculei]

Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
>  
>  I think that we're limiting ourselves unnecessarily to actual animals. 
We are not limiting ourselves with anything, we have sketched even a 
couple of aliens: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot

>  I propose munging some animals together to see what we get.  I'm
> a big 
>  fan of the Fedora bear-walrus myself.  Chester the Fedora Bear-Walrus. 
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[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

Alex Maier escribió:
>  I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here:
>
>  <sarcasm weight="heavy;">
>  How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat?
>  </sarcasm>
>
>  Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a
>  long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists
>  now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional
>  imagery that will end up diluting the whole image.
>
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html 
>
>  
Since Logos are directly related to branding, their terms of use are 
rather stiff. Instead, and I take Tux as example, a mascot gives more 
liberty to the users (as long as the terms of use say that) to use and 
modify as long as the essence is preserved. Gives the users the chance 
to do things with it, play with it (after all, that's what we humans 
have mascots in real life, and that's pretty much their definition also, 
as they're not animals to perform any specific task, but rather to keep 
us company and to play with)... I don't mind not adopting a mascot 
(though I'd prefer that) and just stick to the Logo, but I really like 
the *freedom* a mascot would bring for custom *redistributable* graphics 
and such.

[Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira]

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>  Alex Maier escribió:
> > I see my sarcasm went completely unnoticed. So here:
> >
> > <sarcasm weight="heavy;">
> > How about a puppy wearing a blue fedora hat?
> > </sarcasm>
> >
> > Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved a
> > long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists
> > now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional
> > imagery that will end up diluting the whole image.
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html
> >
> >
>  
>  Since Logos are directly related to branding, their terms of use are
>  rather stiff. Instead, and I take Tux as example, a mascot gives more
>  liberty to the users (as long as the terms of use say that) to use and
>  modify as long as the essence is preserved. Gives the users the chance
>  to do things with it, play with it (after all, that's what we humans
>  have mascots in real life, and that's pretty much their definition also,
>  as they're not animals to perform any specific task, but rather to keep
>  us company and to play with)... I don't mind not adopting a mascot
>  (though I'd prefer that) and just stick to the Logo, but I really like
>  the *freedom* a mascot would bring for custom *redistributable* graphics
>  and such.
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[Mirjam Wäckerlin]

On 3/19/07, Alex Maier <lxmaier(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Seriously, this stuff was all discussed and -- I thougt -- resolved
> a
>  long time ago. We have a logo, and that is it. The logo as it exists
>  now should be used whenever Fedora is mentioned, not some additional
>  imagery that will end up diluting the whole image.
>
>  http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2005-June/thread.html 
I undestand that it must be annoying to go through the same discussion
again and again. On the other side, there is a high interest in the
subject and it may be worth to be rediscussed. In order not to redo
the same old arguments for or against a mascot and to avoid that
several people have to read through a hundred emails it woud be very
useful if someone who discussed this subject last year could make a
wikipage with the major arguments and why in the end the decision was
made against the mascot so that we can move on from this point.

Mirjam

PS: ... by now I'd favourise a goat-derivation: the chamois ;-)

[Mirjam Wäckerlin]

Hum, maybe my mail is already obsolete, while we're talking, the
marketing team is already acting:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot

Cheers,

Mirjam

[Nicu Buculei]

Mirjam Wäckerlin wrote:
>  Hum, maybe my mail is already obsolete, while we're talking, the
>  marketing team is already acting:
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot 
This is the Art team making some initial steps.
Even if we don't get a mascot in the end, we at least spend some quality 
time doing what we like (drawing). It can't see any harm in it.

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[Nayyar Ahmad]

On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote:
>  Mirjam Wäckerlin wrote:
>  > Hum, maybe my mail is already obsolete, while we're talking, the
>  > marketing team is already acting:
>  > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot
>
>  This is the Art team making some initial steps.
>  Even if we don't get a mascot in the end, we at least spend some quality
>  time doing what we like (drawing). It can't see any harm in it. 

what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e. "
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
"

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[Nicu Buculei]

Nayyar Ahmad wrote:
>  
>  what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e. 
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
>  
Inkscape (with the calligraphic tool) and a Wacom tablet (the tablet is 
not required, you can use just a mouse). But that is only a rough sketch.

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[Nayyar Ahmad]

On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote:
>  Nayyar Ahmad wrote:
>  >
>  > what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e.
>  >
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
>
>  Inkscape (with the calligraphic tool) and a Wacom tablet (the tablet is 

calligraphic tools comes with Inkscape or you using external? can you name
that tool as well, btw, i like your free hand art :-D

not required, you can use just a mouse). But that is only a rough sketch.
>  --
>  nicu
>  Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
>  Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
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>
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[Nicu Buculei]

Nayyar Ahmad wrote:
>  On 3/22/07, *Nicu Buculei* wrote:
>      Nayyar Ahmad wrote:
>       >
>       > what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e.
>       >
>     
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
>     
> <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
>  
>      Inkscape (with the calligraphic tool) and a Wacom tablet (the tablet is
>  
>  calligraphic tools comes with Inkscape or you using external? can you 
>  name that tool as well, btw, i like your free hand art :-D 
Yes, is one of the basic tools in Inkscape, along with freehand lines 
and  bezier curves.

Start Inkscape and go in the menu to Help > Tutorials > Inkscape: 
Calligraphy

Another reading source is 
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-Creating.html#Paths-Ca...

If you have more questions on the subject, let's move the discussion on 
a more appropriate place.

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Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro

[Nayyar Ahmad]

On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote:
>  Nayyar Ahmad wrote:
>  > On 3/22/07, *Nicu Buculei* wrote:
>  >     Nayyar Ahmad wrote:
>  >      >
>  >      > what tool have been used to create the last Bee ? i.e.
>  >      >
>  >
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
>  >     <
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot?action=AttachFile&do=get...
>  >
>  >
>  >     Inkscape (with the calligraphic tool) and a Wacom tablet (the tablet
>  is
>  >
>  > calligraphic tools comes with Inkscape or you using external? can you
>  > name that tool as well, btw, i like your free hand art :-D
>
>  Yes, is one of the basic tools in Inkscape, along with freehand lines
>  and  bezier curves.
>
>  Start Inkscape and go in the menu to Help > Tutorials > Inkscape:
>  Calligraphy
>
>  Another reading source is
>
>  http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-Creating.html#Paths-Ca...

excellent, in fact i wanted to do some stuff in calligraphy, it will help me
alot.

If you have more questions on the subject, let's move the discussion on
>  a more appropriate place. 



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[Mirjam Wäckerlin]

On 3/22/07, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro&gt; wrote:
>  This is the Art team making some initial steps.
>  Even if we don't get a mascot in the end, we at least spend some quality
>  time doing what we like (drawing). It can't see any harm in it. 
Me neither, I'm glad that the Art Team is doing so. What I wanted to
say was that we're "just" talking - I like the principle of getting
things done immediately.

Mirjam

[Eduardo Villagrán Morales]

Is good idea use flying as freedom, the birds are perfect to use this
concept!
Condor or Blue Arara Parrot


El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 22:45 +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
escribió:
>  flying symbolize freedom
>  +1 to condor .. flying high with freedom
>  
>  perhaps not condor, other birds??
>  
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[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Lun 19 mars 2007 15:40, nihed mbarek a écrit :
>  but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :) 
Dolphins and tuxes have been used and abused

I like the goat idea. Saw a feral one happily nursing a kid at noon in the
Australian bush (50°C). Impressive

-- 
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[Marc Wiriadisastra]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicolas Mailhot" <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net&gt;
To: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" 
<fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
Cc: "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" 
<fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: FEDORA MASCOT


>  Le Lun 19 mars 2007 15:40, nihed mbarek a écrit :
> > but dolphin are more beautiful with the blue of ocean :)
>
>  Dolphins and tuxes have been used and abused
>
>  I like the goat idea. Saw a feral one happily nursing a kid at noon in the
>  Australian bush (50°C). Impressive
>
>  -- 
>  Nicolas Mailhot
>  
You were obviously taking a break to see that.  Every time I see one of them 
its generally me going past at 110km/h and with the aircon turned up.

-1 to the goat +1 to something relating to a mascot not sure what yet 
nothing has 'jumped' out.

Cheers

Marc

[Nicu Buculei]

Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
>  
>  The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  
>  What do you think about this ? 
Last time when this was discussed (IIRC, around the time the logo was 
created) the majority opined a mascot is not needed. Maybe the 
ambassadors can change that...

with experience accumulated on the Fedora Art team and policies around 
the logo, I have to ask this: what copyright status would have such a 
mascot? Usage policies?
If we end with something users/community members will not be allowed to 
use at will, then better not have anything.

With those being said, I am sure the Art Team would have a lot of fun 
being involved in such a project.

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[Thomas Canniot]

Le dimanche 18 mars 2007 à 00:44 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira a
écrit :
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>  
>  Hi Guys!!
>  
>  
>  The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  
>  What do you think about this ?
>  
>  ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  www.projetofedora.org 


Too bad, I can't see your proposal because your website is being
migrated.

OK, here is my 2 cents about a mascot.

I think that we also have to think about one thing : we already have a
nice logo. Take for example Firefox and its logo. The animal is a part
of the logo itself, and so it is for the other examples (MySQL,
SUSE...). As the animal is part of the logo, adopting an animal, would
make us change the logo to add the animal in it or around the Fedora
brand.

Here is my proposal : how to mix our logo with an animal and to add
meaning to both of them at the same time.
The animal, well the insect I suggest, is a bee.
Why a bee ? Because it is maybe the only insect who has in charge the
reproduction process of flowers, by spreading pollen. Lets compare
flowers to Linux Distributions then, and pollen to technology in
general. Isn't Fedora the most bleeding edge distribution which sees
most of its technologies spread among the free and open source world,
i.e. Linux distributions ?

OK, now, how to mix a bee and our present logo ? I definitely see a bee
with Fedora logo wings. How beautiful would it be to make the Voice of
the Community with the Infinite Symbol fly in the sky, and taking
altitude, helping the bee (Fedora) to spread technology (pollen) among
flowers (distributions) !

Cheers !

Thomas Canniot

[Nicu Buculei]

Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
>  
>  The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  
>  What do you think about this ? 
I started a talk on the Art list [1] about this. Will think a bit about 
it, consult with other members of the community and lay down a plan in 
the wiki (with rules and dates).

As a start, here is how I think a mascot should be:
- Free, so it can be used without any restriction (not even trademarks);
- lovable, this is the purpose of a mascot;
- produced by the community, it should not be someone's baby but our 
community's baby.

I am very confident the Art Team can reach a sensible result, please 
participate in the process.

[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-March/thread.html

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[Thomas Canniot]

Le dimanche 18 mars 2007 à 00:44 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira a
écrit :
>  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  Hash: SHA1
>  
>  Hi Guys!!
>  
>  
>  The Fedora Project need a mascot.
>  
>  What do you think about this ?
>  
>  ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
>  www.projetofedora.org 


Too bad, I can't see your proposal because your website is being
migrated.

OK, here is my 2 cents about a mascot.

I think that we also have to think about one thing : we already have a
nice logo. Take for example Firefox and its logo. The animal is a part
of the logo itself, and so it is for the other examples (MySQL,
SUSE...). As the animal is part of the logo, adopting an animal, would
make us change the logo to add the animal in it or around the Fedora
brand.

Here is my proposal : how to mix our logo with an animal and to add
meaning to both of them at the same time.
The animal, well the insect I suggest, is a bee.
Why a bee ? Because it is maybe the only insect who has in charge the
reproduction process of flowers, by spreading pollen. Lets compare
flowers to Linux Distributions then, and pollen to technology in
general. Isn't Fedora the most bleeding edge distribution which sees
most of its technologies spread among the free and open source world,
i.e. Linux distributions ?

OK, now, how to mix a bee and our present logo ? I definitely see a bee
with Fedora logo wings. How beautiful would it be to make the Voice of
the Community with the Infinite Symbol fly in the sky, and taking
altitude, helping the bee (Fedora) to spread technology (pollen) among
flowers (distributions) !

Cheers !

Thomas Canniot